NLudd@AOL.COM on fri 12 jan 01
Mary Beth Bishop (MBnews@AOL.COM ) wrote,
re the lack of running water in her studio
> because cold water is so miserable on my hands, I want to add the option
> of heat.
Hi Mary Beth
Why not use a kettle and boil water quickly as needed? As a tea drinker (and
a teapot user, not one of those teabag-in-a-mug guys!) I do this often. I use
a quality cuisinart (or Russell-Hobbs) kettle that costs around $70 (ouch)
here in California, but much less in Britain where - unlike in America -
every home has one. But even a cheap one from KMart will do the job.
This kettle is not to be confused with the tallish coffee-pot kind of water
boiler that only heats two or three cups. Bigger is better for your purposes.
best
Ned
H.M. Buchanan on fri 12 jan 01
cold water is so
> miserable on my hands, I want to add the option of heat. Does anyone know
if
> we can buy those lovely little heater things that mount on the wall. You
see
> them all over in England and Europe. Can switch on the heat when wanted.
..
Mary Beth, I got a hot water heater for Christmas. I had asked for one of
the in line heaters that you describe but found out they were MUCH more
expensive than a small water heater. They come as small as 3 gallon size and
I can just unplug it when it is not needed. Hot water, I feel really
decadent !
Judi Buchanan
Snail Scott on fri 12 jan 01
At 10:20 AM 1/12/01 EST, you wrote:
>I just loved Marianne's term so much I had to use it. Lovely word. Now I
>have thought about the code bypass hose system, but because cold water is so
>miserable on my hands, I want to add the option of heat. Does anyone know if
>we can buy those lovely little heater things that mount on the wall. You see
>them all over in England and Europe. Can switch on the heat when wanted.
>Mary Beth Bishop
Farm and ranch supply stores have electrical immersion
heaters that fit buckets. (They are designed to keep
horse troughs from freezing.) They keep your bucket of
water nice and warm - lovely for throwing!
I have also seen coffee-mug sized models advertised -
maybe just right for your throwing-water bucket?
-Snail
Cindy Strnad on fri 12 jan 01
Hi, Mary Beth.
Cold water isn't much fun for your hands, it's true, but a flash heater may
be more power than you need. You can buy immersion heaters designed for
anything from stock tanks to pet dishes--they'll give you less heat than a
flash heater does, but then you don't want to boil your hands--only comfort
them.
Try at a farm and ranch or pet supply store. I haven't tried this, but I
don't see why it wouldn't work for you. Only drawback--I suspect it will
take longer than the flash heaters do to warm up the water.
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
earthenv@gwtc.net
http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
MaryBeth Bishop on fri 12 jan 01
I just loved Marianne's term so much I had to use it. Lovely word. Now I
have thought about the code bypass hose system, but because cold water is so
miserable on my hands, I want to add the option of heat. Does anyone know if
we can buy those lovely little heater things that mount on the wall. You see
them all over in England and Europe. Can switch on the heat when wanted.
My studio is not at all well heated and insulated so even hot water I carry
from the sink...slop, slop, mop, mop...gets cold quickly. In the summer this
problem goes away of course. But it is quite miserable trying to work out
there from some time in October until March at least. Whimper.
Mary Beth Bishop
Back in NC where it is only 30 degrees but at least no snow to shovel.
Joseph Dallas on fri 12 jan 01
MaryBeth,
I heat water with a bucket-heater. It is an electical
heating element that you put into a 5 gal bucket.
It will heat 5 gal to near boiling in about 30 min.
The first thing I do when I go into the studio is to plug
it in. Usually, by the time I'm ready to throw, the water
is nice and warm. If it gets too hot, unplug it or add
cold water.
I got two of them from a janitorial/carpet cleaning
supply place.
regards,
Joe Dallas
Dallas Pottery
Columbus, Ga. USA
jedallas@worldnet.att.net
MaryBeth Bishop wrote:
>
> My studio is not at all well heated and insulated so even hot water I carry
> from the sink...slop, slop, mop, mop...gets cold quickly. In the summer this
> problem goes away of course. But it is quite miserable trying to work out
> there from some time in October until March at least. Whimper.
>
>
>
Hank Murrow on fri 12 jan 01
>I just loved Marianne's term so much I had to use it. Lovely word. Now I
>have thought about the code bypass hose system, but because cold water is so
>miserable on my hands, I want to add the option of heat. Does anyone know if
>we can buy those lovely little heater things that mount on the wall. You see
>them all over in England and Europe. Can switch on the heat when wanted.
>
>My studio is not at all well heated and insulated so even hot water I carry
>from the sink...slop, slop, mop, mop...gets cold quickly. In the summer this
>problem goes away of course. But it is quite miserable trying to work out
>there from some time in October until March at least. Whimper.
>
>Mary Beth Bishop
Dear Mary Beth;
the type of water heater you refer to is called a flash heater. There are
several companies marketing them in the US. One of them has a thermostatic
sensor that compensates for differing input teperature____handy for solar
augmented installations. BTW, have you considered a passive solar tank to
preheat your water? Might be enough gain to render the electric one
unnecessary.
Regards, Hank in Eugene
Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator on fri 12 jan 01
Mary Beth Bishop (MBnews@AOL.COM ) wrote, re the lack of running water in her
studio
> because cold water is so miserable on my hands, I want to add the option
> of heat.
Hi Mary Beth
Why not use a kettle and boil water quickly as needed? As a tea drinker (and
a teapot user, not one of those teabag-in-a-mug guys!) I do this often. I use
a quality cuisinart (or Russell-Hobbs) kettle that costs around $70 (ouch)
here in California, but much less in Britain where - unlike in America -
every home has one. But even a cheap one from KMart will do the job.
This kettle is not to be confused with the tallish coffee-pot kind of water
boiler that only heats two or three cups. Bigger is better for your purposes.
best
Ned
Nanci Bishof on sat 13 jan 01
I bought a "point of use" water heater at Home Depot for about $100 last
year. It works great. The switch to turn it off in on the front for easy
access.
n
Earl Brunner on sat 13 jan 01
Yeah, a fish tank heater would be great! Just start out with warm water
and keep the water level above the element in the glass tube and it
ought to work. (Now why didn't I think of that)
Actually, in my formative years in clay it was considered "sissy" to use
warm water to throw with. True or not, we used to tell everyone that
the warm water soaked into your clay faster and made it go soft. I
throw fast enough now and use little enough water that I can't see it
making much difference even if true.
Cindy Strnad wrote:
> Hi, Mary Beth.
>
> Cold water isn't much fun for your hands, it's true, but a flash heater may
> be more power than you need. You can buy immersion heaters designed for
> anything from stock tanks to pet dishes--they'll give you less heat than a
> flash heater does, but then you don't want to boil your hands--only comfort
> them.
>
> Try at a farm and ranch or pet supply store. I haven't tried this, but I
> don't see why it wouldn't work for you. Only drawback--I suspect it will
> take longer than the flash heaters do to warm up the water.
>
> Cindy Strnad
> Earthen Vessels Pottery
> RR 1, Box 51
> Custer, SD 57730
> USA
> earthenv@gwtc.net
> http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
>
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freeflt on sat 13 jan 01
I use an old crock pot for my throwing water bucket, and a hot plate, =
heat up water and keep the crock pot on low while throwing, if it gets =
too hot, turn the crock pot off, turn it on if it starts cooling off. =
Works for me. =20
In reply to the frozen clay post, my clay has frozen more often than =
not. Other than being harder to wedge to get back the consistency =
between the outer softer clay and harder inner clay, always worked and =
loved throwing it, does end up more plastic.
~sherry wells
free flight pottery
nw montana, where it is lightly snowing large flakes this morning,=20
maybe we will have a winter after all.
Millie Carpenter on sun 14 jan 01
when I bought my first kiln, the lady made me take a small bookshelf of low fire
glazes, sad cheap brushes, clean up tools, and some other unidentifable other
stuff, and on the top she had a portable electric 2 burner stove. which went
in the van also. I have reynaulds (sp) syndrome (a circulatory problem), and I
just can't tolerate cold water, so before I start I dip a tea kettle full out of
my throwing water and boil it and then dump it in the bucket, when it gets too
cold, boil up another pot. and like everyone else I have several buckets of
water in varying states, I about a dozen plastic gallon sized cider jugs when
they are empty I take them back upstairs and refill them, and carry them down the
next day.
Millie in MD, glad that I don't have to fly to NC I will just drive down, taking
two days to do the 400 miles so that I can visit relatives along the way.
Steve Mills on sun 14 jan 01
I think that what Mary Beth is on about is the small electric in line
water heater of the type that you find in toilet wash rooms in the UK;
has a small heater element activated by water flowing past it. I think
they are about 3 kW. In hard water areas it is a good idea to have an
anti lime scale gadget in the cold water line as well otherwise the
element gets screwed up.
Steve
Bath
UK
In message , Snail Scott writes
>At 10:20 AM 1/12/01 EST, you wrote:
>>I just loved Marianne's term so much I had to use it. Lovely word. Now I
>>have thought about the code bypass hose system, but because cold water is so
>>miserable on my hands, I want to add the option of heat. Does anyone know if
>>we can buy those lovely little heater things that mount on the wall. You see
>>them all over in England and Europe. Can switch on the heat when wanted.
>
>>Mary Beth Bishop
>
>Farm and ranch supply stores have electrical immersion
>heaters that fit buckets. (They are designed to keep
>horse troughs from freezing.) They keep your bucket of
>water nice and warm - lovely for throwing!
>
>I have also seen coffee-mug sized models advertised -
>maybe just right for your throwing-water bucket?
>
> -Snail
--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
Rebecca Gregory on sun 14 jan 01
Howdy Mary Beth, and Howdy to y'all out in Clay land!
Okay, I finally have to jump in on this one, has anyone thought of an
acquarium heater? I used to have about 6 tanks ranging from 10 gallons all
the way to 55 gallons. These heaters are inexpensive to purchase and
inexpensive to run. I liked them when I changed out the water, and I know
my fish liked them too. As you take out the warm water to throw with, you
can add the cold water to the heated water to warm up. It does take a while
to heat the water though, so if you plan on unplugging it all the time, I
would go with this little baby!
Submitted with respect
Becky Gregory
Nashville, Tn
From: Cindy Strnad
"You can buy immersion heaters designed for
anything from stock tanks to pet dishes--they'll give you less heat than a
flash heater does, but then you don't want to boil your hands--only comfort
them."
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Cleo on mon 15 jan 01
I use an old proctor silex electric coffee perculator. Heat the water up
add it to some cold water. Works great, it's quick and oh so warm and
wonderful. Best part it's a cheap coffee pot, think I paid $9.00 for it
brand new. You could probably find one at the trift store.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rebecca Gregory
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Sunday, January 14, 2001 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: studio sansaqua
>Howdy Mary Beth, and Howdy to y'all out in Clay land!
>
>Okay, I finally have to jump in on this one, has anyone thought of an
>acquarium heater? I used to have about 6 tanks ranging from 10 gallons all
>the way to 55 gallons. These heaters are inexpensive to purchase and
>inexpensive to run. I liked them when I changed out the water, and I know
>my fish liked them too. As you take out the warm water to throw with, you
>can add the cold water to the heated water to warm up. It does take a
while
>to heat the water though, so if you plan on unplugging it all the time, I
>would go with this little baby!
>
>Submitted with respect
>Becky Gregory
>Nashville, Tn
>
>
>From: Cindy Strnad
>"You can buy immersion heaters designed for
>anything from stock tanks to pet dishes--they'll give you less heat than a
>flash heater does, but then you don't want to boil your hands--only comfort
>them."
>
>
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