Chris Schafale on mon 15 jan 01
I've noticed that it's not only potters that do this. It happens a lot
when I do outdoor shows. One day I was curious and asked the
person if she was a potter. She said no, so I asked her what she
was looking for on the bottom of the pot. She looked bemused and
said she really didn't know, but everybody seemed to do it, so she
did too....
Chris
> The thing that interests me about your post and that I find curious is
> that apparently you didn't turn the mug over and look at the bottom
> before you bought it! Potters are notorious for picking the pots up and
> handling them.
>
Light One Candle Pottery
Fuquay-Varina, North Carolina, USA
(south of Raleigh)
candle@intrex.net
http://www.lightonecandle.com
Gayle Bair on tue 16 jan 01
I realized while reading this thread that
I can trace the progression and growth
in my work by the bottoms on my pieces.
I evolved from a heavy, ragged and clumsy
bottom to a slight ragged foot to a deep
smooth foot ring. My bottoms are still
evolving as I would hope.
At first I spent all my energies making the
pot look like someone older than 10 made it.
Foot rings or smooth bottoms were completely
outside my awareness. As I gained
more skill it became apparent that there was
a lot more anatomy I needed to address.
It is a continual process and I find that
being my own worst critic actually works
quite well.
Studying bottoms is a noble pastime especially
if it's on a cute guy........oops I didn't say that
did I? How anti-PC of me!
Gayle Bair-Out of the closet bun watcher!
Only midst a group of potters! No we are not lasciviously ogling
rear ends, we are talking pots of course! If I had not had an over
long hiatus away from the list I prolly would not even done a
second take at the intriguing subject line.
I too am bottom conscious, I like 'em smooth. In fact I put foot
rings on most things, even the salt shakers, and burnish them so
that what touches furniture is gentle
Toni in muggy Durban thinking of all those pots who have the finery
of their glazes ignored and their bottoms flashed for all to see.
On 15 Jan 2001, at 21:25, Chris Schafale wrote:
> I've noticed that it's not only potters that do this. It happens a
> lot when I do outdoor shows. One day I was curious and asked the
> person if she was a potter. She said no, so I asked her what she was
> looking for on the bottom of the pot. She looked bemused and said she
> really didn't know, but everybody seemed to do it, so she did too....
>
> Chris
africaunusual@MWEB.CO.ZA on tue 16 jan 01
Only midst a group of potters! No we are not lasciviously ogling
rear ends, we are talking pots of course! If I had not had an over
long hiatus away from the list I prolly would not even done a
second take at the intriguing subject line.
I too am bottom conscious, I like 'em smooth. In fact I put foot
rings on most things, even the salt shakers, and burnish them so
that what touches furniture is gentle
Toni in muggy Durban thinking of all those pots who have the finery
of their glazes ignored and their bottoms flashed for all to see.
On 15 Jan 2001, at 21:25, Chris Schafale wrote:
> I've noticed that it's not only potters that do this. It happens a
> lot when I do outdoor shows. One day I was curious and asked the
> person if she was a potter. She said no, so I asked her what she was
> looking for on the bottom of the pot. She looked bemused and said she
> really didn't know, but everybody seemed to do it, so she did too....
>
> Chris
>
Martin Howard on tue 16 jan 01
Anyone thought of putting a special message on the bottom of the mugs? Such
as:-
Don't look at bottoms. It's rude. or:-
You can't fill it this way up.
Or just a cartoon of a bottom?
Martin Howard
Webb's Cottage Pottery
Woolpits Road, Great Saling
BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
England
martin@webbscottage.co.uk
Peggy Bjerkan on tue 16 jan 01
Although I work in clay, I do not consider myself a "potter". I always =
pick up and look at the bottoms of pots...I like to make sure there's a =
signature there! This is not snobbery, just a bad memory!!!
Peggy (in the Napa Valley)
http://www.maskwoman.com
Earl Brunner on tue 16 jan 01
Or "if there was anything in this mug before you turned it over, it's
empty now!"
Martin Howard wrote:
> Anyone thought of putting a special message on the bottom of the mugs? Such
> as:-
> Don't look at bottoms. It's rude. or:-
> You can't fill it this way up.
> Or just a cartoon of a bottom?
>
--
Earl Brunner
http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec
mailto:bruec@anv.net
tomsawyer on tue 16 jan 01
To all,
Frankly,
My wife would say that I find some bottoms particularly interesting.
tsawyer@cfl.rr.com
Carolyn Nygren Curran on tue 16 jan 01
...and then there was the time that I instinctively turned over a mug in a
craft shop to see who had made it. Unfortunately it had an inch or so of
coffee in the bottom at the time. Now I look at the interior first! CNC
Russel Fouts on wed 17 jan 01
It looks like it's time to send this out again. I submitted it once as an
artists statement and they accepted it!
Hi, my name is Russel and I'm a Pot Fondler. There I said it and already
I feel better about it. I'm the guy you've seen skulking behind the potted
ferns in galleries and fairs just waiting for you to turn your back so I
can get at your pots. I can't control it! In the presence of good pots
something just comes over me! I've got to feel the balance of their weight,
pet their bottoms, stroke their sensuous curves, nuzzle their graceful
necks, their luscious lips!!!! Sorry, I'm getting carried a way just
talking about it! I know I've been an embarrassment to my friends.
As if that weren't enough! I, (oh I'm so sick) I even go so far as to
MAKE POTS for OTHER PEOPLE TO FONDLE!! I build simple friendly forms, by
hand; enrobed in layer after layer of lustrous terra-sigilatta, then smoked
in an envelope of newspaper and aluminum foil. The serene surface of
terra-sigilatta and the warm subtle hues of smoke firing, a combination
just waiting to trap the latent pot fondler.
And I know you're out there! I've seen you stealing glances at other
potter's handles, seeming to "accidentally" brush against the curving hip
of a large urn, casually upsetting a pot to get a better look at the foot
ring (foot ring fetishists!). But you needn't feel ashamed, it's natural,
and you're not alone. Give in to your desire, you have nothing to lose but
your pocket change!
Russel Fouts,
Founding member of the Brussels Chapter of Pot Fondlers Anonymous.
Call your buddy when the need gets too great and we'll fondle pots
together.
Ask about our 12 step program to come to terms with your pot
fondling tendencies.
Belgium
Russel Fouts
Mes Potes & Mes Pots
Brussels, Belgium
Tel: +32 2 223 02 75
Mobile: +32 476 55 38 75
Http://www.mypots.com
http://www.Japan-Net.ne.jp/~iwcat
amy parker on wed 17 jan 01
Martin - this would be great fun to do - perhaps our stereotype of the
plumber's rear end - the one with the crack showing?
Amy
At 05:25 PM 1/16/01 -0000, you wrote:
>Anyone thought of putting a special message on the bottom of the mugs? Such
>as:-
>Don't look at bottoms. It's rude. or:-
>You can't fill it this way up.
>Or just a cartoon of a bottom?
>
>Martin Howard
Amy Parker
Lithonia, GA
Sherry Morrow on wed 17 jan 01
Anyone thought of putting a special message on the bottom of the mugs? Such
as:->>
Martin, I love Humphrey Bogart and I have a cup from when I was doing an
internship in my Radiology career. On the front it says " Caution Xray eyes
in operation" and on the bottom is says
"Here's looking at you, kid" Wish I'd thought of it. Sherry Morrow
clennell on wed 17 jan 01
>To all,
>Frankly,
>My wife would say that I find some bottoms particularly interesting.
>tsawyer@cfl.rr.com
>
tom_ I'm a leg man, myself. Two legs make a bottom.
Cheers,
Tony
sour cherry pottery
tony and sheila clennell
4545 king street
beamsville, on.L0R 1B1
http://www.sourcherrypottery.com
clennell@vaxxine.com
ferenc jakab on wed 17 jan 01
I look at the bottoms to determine the maker's mark.
Feri.
ferenc jakab on wed 17 jan 01
> Anyone thought of putting a special message on the bottom of the mugs?
Such
> as:-
> Don't look at bottoms. It's rude. or:-
> You can't fill it this way up.
> Or just a cartoon of a bottom?
Martin,
For a Quaker you're a vicious person. Laughter is NOT the best medicine for
one with broken ribs.
Feri.
Paul Taylor on thu 18 jan 01
Dear All
I would like to reiterate Gales point.
Here is a design tip especially for beginners.
Instinctively beginner throwers and hand builders spend 95 % of their
efforts on the shape of the pot and forget that the most important aspect of
the shape is the beginning of it and the end. The proportion of the rim to
the base and the way those two are finished. I tell my students if the ends
are well defined the rest will take care of its self . The same is for a
line and for form.
Of course as one becomes more advanced this changes. The apparent
breaking of this rule is for the first division - Immaculate artistry. I am
thinking of the hand made raku tea bowl. These bowls are made with a reverse
enthuses the bowl starts at the side and the top and bottom are the shape a
difficult trick to pull off and an esthetic not easily understood.
Potters look at the bottom of the pot for two pieces of information one is
how deep is the potters thinking. Does he care enough to attend to the part
of the pot you do not see as well as the bit you do see.
Secondly does he stamp it or sign it? Has he followed the conventions of
a potters stamp and a decorators mark ( I know that prejudice could be
unfounded but it is there I have it and I am not ashamed of it ). If the pot
was made in china I would expect to see the traditional dating scheme
instead of a european type stamp.
I suppose a signature could be considered in common usage, as to
separate out the pot as an art piece - common usage of a signature may form
a new tradition. But for myself I am a traditionalists. However if I can get
more money signing my signature ?????? I would change.
Regards from Paul Taylor
http://www.anu.ie/westportpottery
> From: Gayle Bair
> Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:32:45 -0800
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: looking at bottoms
>
> I realized while reading this thread that
> I can trace the progression and growth
> in my work by the bottoms on my pieces.
>
> I evolved from a heavy, ragged and clumsy
> bottom to a slight ragged foot to a deep
> smooth foot ring. My bottoms are still
> evolving as I would hope.
>
> At first I spent all my energies making the
> pot look like someone older than 10 made it.
> Foot rings or smooth bottoms were completely
> outside my awareness. As I gained
> more skill it became apparent that there was
> a lot more anatomy I needed to address.
> It is a continual process and I find that
> being my own worst critic actually works
> quite well.
>
> Studying bottoms is a noble pastime especially
> if it's on a cute guy........oops I didn't say that
> did I? How anti-PC of me!
> Gayle Bair-Out of the closet bun watcher!
>
>
> Only midst a group of potters! No we are not lasciviously ogling
> rear ends, we are talking pots of course! If I had not had an over
> long hiatus away from the list I prolly would not even done a
> second take at the intriguing subject line.
> I too am bottom conscious, I like 'em smooth. In fact I put foot
> rings on most things, even the salt shakers, and burnish them so
> that what touches furniture is gentle
> Toni in muggy Durban thinking of all those pots who have the finery
> of their glazes ignored and their bottoms flashed for all to see.
> On 15 Jan 2001, at 21:25, Chris Schafale wrote:
Marta Matray Gloviczki on thu 18 jan 01
.....reading russel`s statement...wow...now i know
what`s wrong with mine(talking about my
statement-dah)...
i dont know how to paste it what he says, but worth to
go into the archieves...
i have a big deep plate from russel, i touch it a
little bit when i walk by and it starts to dance on
its rounded bottom and makes me smile...
thanks russel,
marta
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Janet Kaiser on thu 18 jan 01
When Queen Victoria celebrated her golden
jubilee in 1901, all the school children in
Cheshire were given an orange and a porcelain
demi-tasse. Impressed in the bottom was the
Queen's head, which could be seen when held up
to the light...
I still have my Grandmother's cup, which
survived the journey home from school (she told
me many did not), the Blitz on Merseyside during
the war and many years of my ownership.
It may be mass-produced kitsch, but it is still
my favourite bottom.
Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art . Capel Celfyddyd
HOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL POTTERS' PATH
Criccieth LL52 0EA, GB-Wales Tel: (01766) 523570
E-mail: postbox@the-coa.org.uk
WEBSITE: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
----- Original Message -----
> Anyone thought of putting a special message on
the bottom of the mugs?
Janet Kaiser on thu 18 jan 01
My mother used to say of particularly
long-legged girls: "She had legs all the way up
to her bottom".
Her explanation to me aged six, of why we have a
belly-button? "If you did not have one, your
bottom would fall off". I have been frightened
of undoing the knot ever since!
Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art . Capel Celfyddyd
HOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL POTTERS' PATH
Criccieth LL52 0EA, GB-Wales Tel: (01766) 523570
E-mail: postbox@the-coa.org.uk
WEBSITE: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
----- Original Message -----
> tom_ I'm a leg man, myself. Two legs make a
bottom.
> Cheers,
> Tony
Russel Fouts on fri 19 jan 01
Marta,
>> ...reading russel`s statement...wow...now i know what`s wrong with
mine(talking about my statement-dah)...
i dont know how to paste it what he says, but worth to go into the
archieves... i have a big deep plate from russel, i touch it a little bit
when i walk by and it starts to dance on its rounded bottom and makes me
smile... thanks russel, <<
Bottoms Again! Thanks!
Maybe the reason I don't put feet on them is because subconsciously, I don't
like feet. ;-) Actually, it's because I like the movement and sometimes, I
think the bottom is nicer than the inside and display them that way. Pots
look funny with their little feet waving in the air.
Ru
Russel Fouts
Mes Potes & Mes Pots
Brussels, Belgium
Tel: +32 2 223 02 75
Mobile: +32 476 55 38 75
Http://www.mypots.com
http://www.Japan-Net.ne.jp/~iwcat
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