Tom Buck on tue 23 jan 01
Howard A:
While the free-trade pact helps to remove some hindrances to free
flow of goods between the three countries of North America, there still
exists rules in Canada that impose duties on some items (there is a
special list available from Canada Customs) and also an effort by Revenue
Canada and Revenue Ontario (in Sam's case) to collect two taxes, the Goods
and Services Tax (Canada), 7% ad valorem; and the Onario Sales tax, 8% ad
valorem. You are corect to say that UPS is honour-bound to report the
value of goods coming into Canada, and Canada Customs empowers UPS (FedEx,
etc.) to collect both duties and taxes. Canada Post is also required to
collect duties and taxes (but sometimes shipments fail to be noticed by
the extremely busy Postal Company).
Why we Canadians ask for you to favour us in price information is
because if we journeyed to a US border point and made purchases, we would
likely drive home duty-free and tax-free simply because the automobile
traffic at some border crossings is almost beyond belief and border guards
cannot buildup a backlog to collect a few dollars, watching instead for
the big smugglers (not us poor potters).
So that's where Sam was coming from.
try to be nice to us Canucks. Bye. Peace. Tom.
Tom Buck )
tel: 905-389-2339 (westend Lake Ontario, province of Ontario, Canada).
mailing address: 373 East 43rd Street,
Hamilton ON L8T 3E1 Canada
Naralon on wed 24 jan 01
I think if Mr Axner could only realize the difficulty that we have to get
things from the US, maybe he would be a little more receptive.
Things are exactly as Tom has stated. We are your friendly neighbour, but
are totally isolated from you by the Canadian dollar value, and the Customs
frenzy that occurs when anything attempts to cross our border.
To add it all up, - to pay with a 66 cent dollar, plus shipping fees that
would choke a horse, (also with a 66 cent dollar), then pay 15% of the value
in Canadian funds, to the province and the feds - the difficulty to get
credit would make me turn to a different company, or to a different method
of getting the things that I need.
The fact that Howard has not responded to Sam's question, re: extending
credit to her, sure makes me wonder. If there are only two supply houses to
get references from - then that is all there are. We can't wave a magic wand
to create a third.
Naralon - who usually just lurks, but this just hit home too hard.
Sear'nDipPottery,
London, Ontario, Canada.
Earl Brunner on wed 24 jan 01
I can sympathize with the costs of the shipping and the taxes that you
have to deal with in Canada when ordering stuff from the US. But the
bottom line is that you are all making Axner's out to be the heavy here
because they won't break the law in your behalf. If Sam wants to
circumvent the law, she already mentioned a way to do it. Have stuff
sent to her sister in the US, and then let her sister break the law,
that way she can keep it in the family.
Why is it that nobody is embarrassed here to ask strangers to break the
law for them? You think the law is unfair and that somehow justifies
breaking the law? Everyone gets to pick and choose which laws they will
keep and which ones they won't? It's called anarchy folks, and society
sinks into chaos when enough people do it.
If you don't like the law, it's your law, get it changed.
Axner's is a business that would pay big time if caught trying to
circumvent the law. As far as the credit issue goes, If I personally
were denied credit, FOR WHAT EVER REASON, I sure as heck wouldn't brag
about it on the internet. People who extend credit take a risk, to
minimize the risk, they establish perimeters for the conditions of that
credit. That's the way business works. It's not the Axner Potter's
Charity and they can be nice people and still not give everything away
for free.
Sorry, I don't think Axner's is the "heavy" here.
>Naralon wrote:
> I think if Mr Axner could only realize the difficulty that we have to get
> things from the US, maybe he would be a little more receptive.
>
> The fact that Howard has not responded to Sam's question, re: extending
> credit to her, sure makes me wonder. If there are only two supply houses to
> get references from - then that is all there are. We can't wave a magic wand
> to create a third.
>
> Naralon - who usually just lurks, but this just hit home too hard.
> Sear'nDipPottery,
> London, Ontario, Canada.
>
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Earl Brunner
http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec
mailto:bruec@anv.net
James L Bowen on sun 28 jan 01
Looks like we still have a ways to go in
eliminating trade barriers between our two
countries.
Howard is one of the finest people I have met
from my time on the list.
Anyone in business, especially anyone attempting
to ship internationally should disregard the
customs requirements of their nation and the
destination nation at their own personal and
business risk.
Get the elected officials to respond to your
needs. They and the special interests they
represent are the problem not honest business
men like Howard.
Seems to me this problem should have been
resolved between Howard and the offended party
off the list. I might be tempted to badmouth
someone on the list if I had been bilked, but
not for being inconvenienced.
One thing you all must give credit to Howard for
not touting his business on the list.
I had a wheel for sale, but I felt it
inappropriate to "advertise" it on the Clayart
list and used an alternate source to expose it
to the world. That's me you let your own
conscience be your guide.
One more comment about Howard and Tom Sawyer.
When i was in Orlando last year Tom took me to
Axner's and Howard treated us to lunch. I left
my camera at the restaurant and was unable to
get back to claim it. Howard sent one of his
people over to retrieve it and shipped it to my
home. Thanks again Howard Axner and Tom Sawyer I
owe you at least dinner in Charlotte.
Stay centered.
WHC228@AOL.COM on mon 29 jan 01
Howard axner is one of a kind. His business isn't just about money. It is a
genuine attempt to be of service to the community of potters that he serves.
There is an honesty built into him that is rare among businessmen.
It is, unfortunately, Impossible to please everyone all of the time, no
matter what your intentions are.
Bill
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