Debi Rudman on wed 24 jan 01
One of my students asked me why they call it "throwing" yesterday..and I
didn't have an answer. Help! Why *do* they call it throwing...I can't seem to
find the origination of the term.
Thanks!
Debi Rudman
Ceramics Instructor, duCret School of Art,Plainfield, NJ
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DEBBYGrant@AOL.COM on wed 24 jan 01
I believe that the word "throw" is old English for "turn" and, indeed I
believe
that potters across the pond do use the word turning on the wheel. Could
use some corroboration on that from our British friends.
Debby Grant in NH
Philip Poburka on wed 24 jan 01
Dear Debi,
Well, just off the top-o'-me-head...
It used to be that the word 'throw' had denotations other than to 'cast' or
toss something.
It refered to a distance of motion, or of probable motion.
'Throw' may have meant more the motion of one's Arm, rather than that one
actually 'toss' or 'cast' something.as in to release it...'Cast' was (is) to
'release'.
Through mis-use, or confusion...it gets mixed up with 'Cast'.
As an Automobile Engine or other 'Crank-Shaft' had (has) a 'throw'...this
being the distance in motion, described by the part of the 'Crank' where the
connecting rod (and piston) are affixed...approximately.
A Hand-Crank, as on a Coffee-Mill, or a Victrola, or anything...have a
'Throw'.
Soo too, have 'Levers'...the distance described by the farthest or the
actual distance the lever can move...is the throw.
A 'Lathe' have a 'throw', being the distance from the centerline of the
'spindles' or 'centers', and the 'Bed'.
Many more exemplars...but I just woke up!...and I'm amazed I got this far.
In essence, my appreciation of the term suggest that it denote the motion of
one's Arm, or of things similar to this.
An old and friendly term...the antithesis of desicated or otherwise enimical
'metrification' sentiments.
Well...
Phil
------Original Message------
From: Debi Rudman
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Sent: January 24, 2001 2:45:21 PM GMT
Subject: The term "throwing"?
One of my students asked me why they call it "throwing" yesterday..and I
didn't have an answer. Help! Why *do* they call it throwing...I can't seem
to
find the origination of the term.
Thanks!
Debi Rudman
Ceramics Instructor, duCret School of Art,Plainfield, NJ
Visit my Canine Art Website at
http://www.craftsreport.com/showcase/ceramics/functional.html
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Dewitt on wed 24 jan 01
Take a look at http://www.studiopotter.org/articles/art0001.htm. It's an
article by Dennis Krueger that give the origin of a number of pottery
related terms.
deg
At 09:45 1/24/01 -0500, Debi Rudman wrote:
>One of my students asked me why they call it "throwing" yesterday..and I
>didn't have an answer. Help! Why *do* they call it throwing...I can't seem to
>find the origination of the term.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Debi Rudman
>Ceramics Instructor, duCret School of Art,Plainfield, NJ
>Visit my Canine Art Website at
>http://www.craftsreport.com/showcase/ceramics/functional.html
>scroll down to DJL Design
>
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Cindy Strnad on wed 24 jan 01
Hi, Debi.
There's some debate about this. The explanation that seems most likely to me
is that the word that originally spawned both the words "turn" and "throw"
meant to give a twist to something. When you throw a ball (or a bullet), if
you give it a twist, it'll travel in a straighter line. If you're a real
artist, you can make the ball curve or drop or decelerate, and all because
of the twist you give it as it leaves your fingers.
I believe this original word was Welsh, but I may be remembering wrong
there. It was from somewhere in G. Britain, I'm sure. Anyway, I'm sure you
can figure it out from there. The words diverged and the meaning of "throw"
became more obscure, but it was still applied both to pottery and
projectiles.
Of course, some, having experienced frustration with a misbehaving piece,
may bring the terms back together again by flinging said piece against the
wall. And at other times, a piece which isn't stuck to the wheel as well as
it might be can make the original meaning quite clear . . . .
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
earthenv@gwtc.net
http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
Earl Brunner on wed 24 jan 01
Why are you trying to answer the question? Make the students do the
research. When they get out of school are you going to follow them
around and hold their hands the rest of their lives?
Debi Rudman wrote:
> One of my students asked me why they call it "throwing" yesterday..and I
> didn't have an answer. Help! Why *do* they call it throwing...I can't seem to
> find the origination of the term.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Debi Rudman
> Ceramics Instructor, duCret School of Art,Plainfield, NJ
> Visit my Canine Art Website at
> http://www.craftsreport.com/showcase/ceramics/functional.html
> scroll down to DJL Design
>
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Edouard Bastarache on wed 24 jan 01
Allo Cindi,
I am not a reference in english,
but, throwing may mean throwing
a lump of clay on the center of the
wheelhead before making a pot.
Later,
Edouard Bastarache
Irr=E9ductible Qu=E9becois
Sorel-Tracy
Dans / In "La Belle Province"
edouardb@sorel-tracy.qc.ca
http://www.sorel-tracy.qc.ca/~edouardb/
----- Message d'origine -----
De : Cindy Strnad
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Envoy=E9 : 24 janvier, 2001 13:52
Objet : Re: The term "throwing"?
> Hi, Debi.
>
> There's some debate about this. The explanation that seems most likely =
to
me
> is that the word that originally spawned both the words "turn" and "thr=
ow"
> meant to give a twist to something. When you throw a ball (or a bullet)=
,
if
> you give it a twist, it'll travel in a straighter line. If you're a rea=
l
> artist, you can make the ball curve or drop or decelerate, and all beca=
use
> of the twist you give it as it leaves your fingers.
>
> I believe this original word was Welsh, but I may be remembering wrong
> there. It was from somewhere in G. Britain, I'm sure. Anyway, I'm sure =
you
> can figure it out from there. The words diverged and the meaning of
"throw"
> became more obscure, but it was still applied both to pottery and
> projectiles.
>
> Of course, some, having experienced frustration with a misbehaving piec=
e,
> may bring the terms back together again by flinging said piece against =
the
> wall. And at other times, a piece which isn't stuck to the wheel as wel=
l
as
> it might be can make the original meaning quite clear . . . .
>
> Cindy Strnad
> Earthen Vessels Pottery
> RR 1, Box 51
> Custer, SD 57730
> USA
> earthenv@gwtc.net
> http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
>
>
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Janet Kaiser on fri 26 jan 01
See the Oxford Dictionary (compact version) Vol.
II, pages 3308 to 3310 for complete background,
including throw, throwing, thrower, etc.
Also the Clay Art Archives
http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/ where there was
a thorough explanation sometime last year.
Please forgive me not writing it all out again,
but we are packing for a quick dash to Germany.
Yes, a WHOLE WEEK's HOLIDAY! First since 1993!
Would the Clay Buddies who are waiting for a
reply to mail also forgive me, but there is no
way I can get everything done before leaving.
Take care of yourselves... I'll miss you all!
Cheers
Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art . Capel Celfyddyd
HOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL POTTERS' PATH
Criccieth LL52 0EA, GB-Wales Tel: (01766) 523570
E-mail: postbox@the-coa.org.uk
WEBSITE: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
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