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mocha question

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Dave Finkelnburg on sun 4 feb 01


Anne,
Go to: http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
Click on: Archives
Click on: Search the Archives
opposite For, enter: mocha
enter dates, January 1996 and January 2001
I got 114 hits, messages pertaining to the question you asked. If that
doesn't get you the information you are after, I'll be surprised. Hint,
search on: mocha tea and you'll narrow the list of e-mails to 31.
I hope this helps.
Dave Finkelnburg
-----Original Message-----
From: Annie & Bob
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Sunday, February 04, 2001 9:01 AM
Subject: Many thanks,,,,,,


I now know how to ask a question!!!!!!! The question was about the early
American Mocha ware, Y'know the stuff where tobacco is mixed with stuff in
a solution and colorants are added and then it's dropped on wet slip and it
makes really cool 'tree' patterns. I'm just looking for a recipe because
none of my books has it. Thanks again.

Anne --from cloudy Michigan

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Lili Krakowski on mon 5 feb 01


Look. The formal recipdes all use boiled tobacco which stinks and is
toxic.
Much nicer: strong vinegar and colorants. There is 6% vinewgar or I let
4% evaporate to "reduce it." I think I mention in my Pottery Making
Illustrated article fo a few years back "SHOWING YOUR SLIP"
Add your colorant remembering that some COLORANTS are toxic, and test to
make sure the slip takes it well AND the glaze does not dissolve.

On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Dave Finkelnburg wrote:

> Anne,
> Go to: http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
> Click on: Archives
> Click on: Search the Archives
> opposite For, enter: mocha
> enter dates, January 1996 and January 2001
> I got 114 hits, messages pertaining to the question you asked. If that
> doesn't get you the information you are after, I'll be surprised. Hint,
> search on: mocha tea and you'll narrow the list of e-mails to 31.
> I hope this helps.
> Dave Finkelnburg
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Annie & Bob
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Date: Sunday, February 04, 2001 9:01 AM
> Subject: Many thanks,,,,,,
>
>
> I now know how to ask a question!!!!!!! The question was about the early
> American Mocha ware, Y'know the stuff where tobacco is mixed with stuff in
> a solution and colorants are added and then it's dropped on wet slip and it
> makes really cool 'tree' patterns. I'm just looking for a recipe because
> none of my books has it. Thanks again.
>
> Anne --from cloudy Michigan
>
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Lili Krakowski

Dai Scott on mon 5 feb 01


My biggest complaint about using "tobacco tea" was that if you don't use it
fairly soon, it will develop mould on top of the "tea"---pretty disgusting!
Keeping it in the fridge slows that process, but I felt it was sort of like
keeping a urine sample or some other gross thing in the fridge---I wanted a
separate fridge! The strong vinegar sounds great; I will try it. I assume
if I boil it down to 2/3 volume, it will be the right percent?
Dai Scott in Kelowna, BC
potterybydai@home.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lili Krakowski"
To:
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: mocha question


> Look. The formal recipdes all use boiled tobacco which stinks and is
> toxic.
> Much nicer: strong vinegar and colorants. There is 6% vinewgar or I let
> 4% evaporate to "reduce it." I think I mention in my Pottery Making
> Illustrated article fo a few years back "SHOWING YOUR SLIP"
> Add your colorant remembering that some COLORANTS are toxic, and test to
> make sure the slip takes it well AND the glaze does not dissolve.
>
> On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Dave Finkelnburg wrote:
>
> > Anne,
> > Go to: http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
> > Click on: Archives
> > Click on: Search the Archives
> > opposite For, enter: mocha
> > enter dates, January 1996 and January 2001
> > I got 114 hits, messages pertaining to the question you asked. If
that
> > doesn't get you the information you are after, I'll be surprised. Hint,
> > search on: mocha tea and you'll narrow the list of e-mails to 31.
> > I hope this helps.
> > Dave Finkelnburg
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Annie & Bob
> > To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> > Date: Sunday, February 04, 2001 9:01 AM
> > Subject: Many thanks,,,,,,
> >
> >
> > I now know how to ask a question!!!!!!! The question was about the
early
> > American Mocha ware, Y'know the stuff where tobacco is mixed with stuff
in
> > a solution and colorants are added and then it's dropped on wet slip
and it
> > makes really cool 'tree' patterns. I'm just looking for a recipe
because
> > none of my books has it. Thanks again.
> >
> > Anne --from cloudy Michigan
> >
> >
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> > Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
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> > melpots@pclink.com.
> >
> >
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> > Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
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melpots@pclink.com.
> >
>
> Lili Krakowski
>
>
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Lili Krakowski on tue 6 feb 01


To reply to your reply. What's your hurry. A flat glass pan like you
use for lasagna set in a warm place will "reduce" the vinegar in it pdq.
The % is not that importance. TEST! If it flows nicely that's it.

Lili Krakowski

Carenza Hayhoe on sun 19 aug 01


We have spent the last year restoring a house that dates from about 1620 and
setting up Wellbeloved Gallery so I have left a whole heap of things in my
"round-tuit" heap including getting up to date with ClayArt mail. I read it
every night but I haven't always got round to replying or joining in
discussions. (memo - do better). I have found some correspondence and
queries about mochaware dating back to February. I have been making cone 6
mocha landscapes since about 1984, it took me five years with a hammer in
the other hand to get the effects I wanted. You can see the effects on the
mochaware page on my website. If I can be of any help to anyone trying to
do the same please contact me
Carenza
www.wellbelovedgallery.co.uk
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