mudlark on tue 13 feb 01
I've looked into this a bit over the years and have found that the reason=
styro
peanuts are ecological is that they don't bio-degrade. If recycled those =
nasty
things are best way to go =85ecologically. The biodegradable stuff, "popc=
orn" or the
water soluble, has a very short life span and requires more energy to pro=
duce.
Where as the PEANUTS can last for ever as packing material, if recycled. =
Think of
all that Popcorn=85 and the land and fertilizer, man hours, water ,etc. i=
t would
take to produce it. And then it is composted after one use because it is
biodegradable and it does'nt work as well time after time. Think of the g=
as for
the tractor alone What a waste of productivity .
Of course if it all gets sent to the dump, my argument is without merit.
Snail Scott wrote:
> >In a message dated 2/12/2001, Gayle writes:
> >
> >> Get your boxes packed with popcorn
> >> packing material.
> >> Then when the wind blows your pals
> >> in the desert will have a treat and you
> >> don't have to clean your desert.
> >>
>
> >Gayle,
> >I don't recommend this, since packing popcorn
> >is made of styrofoam,
> >
> >Milton
>
> Most packing suppliers have the biodegradeable,
> nontoxic cornstarch packing peanuts available.
>
> -Snail
>
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Snail Scott on tue 13 feb 01
>In a message dated 2/12/2001, Gayle writes:
>
>> Get your boxes packed with popcorn
>> packing material.
>> Then when the wind blows your pals
>> in the desert will have a treat and you
>> don't have to clean your desert.
>>
>Gayle,
>I don't recommend this, since packing popcorn
>is made of styrofoam,
>
>Milton
Most packing suppliers have the biodegradeable,
nontoxic cornstarch packing peanuts available.
-Snail
SusanRaku@AOL.COM on wed 14 feb 01
does anyone have any tips on how to get rid of the static electricity
encountered with the peanuts. They stick to my hands and are impossible to
work with.
Susan
Hank Murrow on wed 14 feb 01
On the subject of PACKING;
While installing my doorless fiberkilns at Penland and later in
Virginia, I noticed quite a few very beautiful Pawlonia trees growing in
the wild in a scattered way in the southeastern region. Since I am in love
with these trees, I inquired about how they got scattered around the
landscape in this way. The Pawlonia Association said that around the end of
the last century, pottery and other delicate items from Japan were packed
in Pawlonia seeds for shipment to America. During the unpacking, the seeds
became subject to the usual scattering effects of wind and birds and other
means. So the seeds spread across the entire country, but only germinated
and survived well in the southeastern states, often attaining majestic
adulthood. The Japanese use this wood traditionally as treasure boxes for
important pieces of pottery, as well as for 'hope chests' for young brides.
Well, by the fifties they had cut their own forests pretty much down, and
they heard about pawlonia trees in America. Soon japanese timber buyers
were offering up to $10,000 per 10' specimen log. Later, there were
accounts of Pawlonia rustling and other atrocities arising from native
greed. Most of the furor has died down since the locals found out how rare
a perfect log is, but many are now growing Pawlonia in groves with an eye
to their investment potential (perhaps 16,000 acres). I know one potter in
Maryland who has nurtured 1200 young trees through the 5 year drought there
in hopes of providing her kids with an inheiritance. Waking up on a winter
morning to see the 1200 trees dusted with frost in the early sunshine was
an epiphany for me. There are unanticipated effects from all we do. I am
reminded of Lewis Hyde's tremendous poem, "This Error is the Sign of Love",
from a slim collection with the same title.
Anyway, I thought we all might love to get off the subject of peanuts, and
this is mybest effort!
Hank in Eugene
WardBurner@AOL.COM on wed 14 feb 01
In a message dated 2/13/01 9:03:45 PM, snail@MINDSPRING.COM writes:
<< Most packing suppliers have the biodegradeable,
nontoxic cornstarch packing peanuts available.
-Snail >>
So,.... I was at a large industrial equipment show looking at all the cool
stuff. I approach a booth that deals with packaging equipment and they are
selling the biodegradeable "peanuts". The salesman proceeds to demonstrate
how biodegradeable they are by eating 'em like candy. I watch for a few
minutes and ask if roaches and rats will get into the stuff and make a mess.
"Nahhh", he says, "they won't touch the stuff". I ask, "So, your saying that
rats and roaches won't eat this, but salesmen will?"
Marc Ward
Ward Burner Systems
PO Box 1086
Dandridge, TN 37725
865.397-2914 Voice
865.397-1253 Fax
wardburner@aol.com Email
wardburner.com Online Catalog
Gayle Bair on wed 14 feb 01
So Mark.... are you saying that salesmen
are lower on the evolutionary chain than
roaches????? Hmmmmmm.... makes sense!->
Gayle Bair-Bainbridge WA
In a message dated 2/13/01 9:03:45 PM, snail@MINDSPRING.COM writes:
<< Most packing suppliers have the biodegradeable,
nontoxic cornstarch packing peanuts available.
-Snail >>
Mark wrote>
So,.... I was at a large industrial equipment show looking at all the cool
stuff. I approach a booth that deals with packaging equipment and they are
selling the biodegradeable "peanuts". The salesman proceeds to demonstrate
how biodegradeable they are by eating 'em like candy. I watch for a few
minutes and ask if roaches and rats will get into the stuff and make a mess.
"Nahhh", he says, "they won't touch the stuff". I ask, "So, your saying that
rats and roaches won't eat this, but salesmen will?"
Marc Ward
Ward Burner Systems
PO Box 1086
Dandridge, TN 37725
865.397-2914 Voice
865.397-1253 Fax
wardburner@aol.com Email
wardburner.com Online Catalog
Dennis Mummert on thu 15 feb 01
There are only two ways that I know of. One is to squirt water on them.
The other is to change the charge on electrons to zero, which results in the
collapse of the universe.
-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of SusanRaku@AOL.COM
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:13 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: packing 'peanuts'
does anyone have any tips on how to get rid of the static electricity
encountered with the peanuts. They stick to my hands and are impossible to
work with.
Susan
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Cindy Strnad on thu 15 feb 01
Susan,
I use a fine mist of water to get rid of static electricity in skirts. Maybe
this would work on packing peanuts? It could be worth a try.
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
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Custer, SD 57730
USA
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David Hendley on thu 15 feb 01
----- Original Message -----
| does anyone have any tips on how to get rid of the static electricity
| encountered with the peanuts. They stick to my hands and are impossible
to
| work with.
| Susan
No, no tips, but if you buy the peanuts new, you can instead buy
non-static peanuts.
They are made for shipping electronic parts and are usually
red-pink. They cost 10 or 20% more than regular peanuts.
--
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
hendley@tyler.net
http://www.farmpots.com/
Philip Poburka on thu 15 feb 01
I hate packing 'peanuts', or 'goober-peas' as it may be.
I prefer crumpled 'News Papers'.
One often finds curious articles to distract and amuse, while packing or
unpacking, and THEY don't get 'everywhere' and cling and cause a general
nuisance...they do not 'stick' to my Cat, or get swirled near so easy by a
breeze as may come through here on a nice day with the windows open, either.
Just a thought...Why use 'em?
Just say "NO thank you"!
Peanuts are a nuisance even to throw away, to get them into the garbage bag.
News Papers from far-away places are interesting as well!
'Peanuts' are...'peanuts'...Bleah!
Phil
------Original Message------
From: David Hendley
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: February 15, 2001 7:03:26 PM GMT
Subject: Re: packing 'peanuts'
----- Original Message -----
| does anyone have any tips on how to get rid of the static electricity
| encountered with the peanuts. They stick to my hands and are impossible
to
| work with.
| Susan
No, no tips, but if you buy the peanuts new, you can instead buy
non-static peanuts.
They are made for shipping electronic parts and are usually
red-pink. They cost 10 or 20% more than regular peanuts.
--
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
hendley@tyler.net
http://www.farmpots.com/
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Cindy Strnad on thu 15 feb 01
Hi, Phil.
I do use newspapers, but packing peanuts are a lot lighter and eminently
re-useable.
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
earthenv@gwtc.net
http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
MaryBeth Bishop on thu 15 feb 01
Move South. Little joke. You must be up in heat country. My cat get static
shocks when we are in Penn. I tried the metal coat hanger trick. Not a
help. I have found that peanuts in the unheated garage are less lively than
those in the house.
Please don't change, any of you. Lets just yammer on. When I'm in a hurry I
delete wildly. Then later I find I have missed all kinds of stuff.
Mary Beth Bishop
Jeff Campana on sat 17 feb 01
On the topic of alternative/recycled packing materials....
Most ice cream shops that have those large "wafflecones" get them packed in large
sheets of foam. Usually they have to pay to either send the foam back to the
distributor, or most likely, just throw them out. The local place in my town is
grateful for me to take the stuff, complete with nice, managably sized boxes which
fit the foam perfectly.
It is really worth it to find free materials that otherwise will just be tossed.
jeff
> I hate packing 'peanuts', or 'goober-peas' as it may be.
> I prefer crumpled 'News Papers'.
>
> One often finds curious articles to distract and amuse, while packing or
> unpacking, and THEY don't get 'everywhere' and cling and cause a general
> nuisance...they do not 'stick' to my Cat, or get swirled near so easy by a
> breeze as may come through here on a nice day with the windows open, either.
>
> Just a thought...Why use 'em?
> Just say "NO thank you"!
>
> Peanuts are a nuisance even to throw away, to get them into the garbage bag.
> News Papers from far-away places are interesting as well!
>
> 'Peanuts' are...'peanuts'...Bleah!
>
> Phil
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: David Hendley
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Sent: February 15, 2001 7:03:26 PM GMT
> Subject: Re: packing 'peanuts'
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> | does anyone have any tips on how to get rid of the static electricity
> | encountered with the peanuts. They stick to my hands and are impossible
> to
> | work with.
> | Susan
>
> No, no tips, but if you buy the peanuts new, you can instead buy
> non-static peanuts.
> They are made for shipping electronic parts and are usually
> red-pink. They cost 10 or 20% more than regular peanuts.
> --
> David Hendley
> Maydelle, Texas
> hendley@tyler.net
> http://www.farmpots.com/
>
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