artimater on wed 14 feb 01
Tony typed with his frozen red nose:
Dear Art; You got me wondering . Where the hell has all my clay been
going????? I must be just spinning my wheels. I don't make t-bowls and
really have no desire to. Everything I start as a vase ends up being a =
jug
and every vessel I make including a plate has a little handle/lug. For =
me
the handle is my form. Yes it is part of the form that i have in my =
minds
eye when I make pots. It is the embellishment, the jewellery, the belt, =
the
tie, the detail. Undressed without it.
I take as much pleasure in making handles as in throwing on the wheel. =
a
look at your work leads me to understand why you don't understand =
handles.
You're not a maker of domestic ware. Useful pots for the the ritual of
eating. the t-bowl thing is a way to make a dime. Everyone needs a cup =
but
not everyone needs a fertility mask.
My handles have become my trademark. I try to give it all to them nice
handle, nice trimmed footring, movement in the throwing and a pleasant
glaze. god is in the details or as Junkyard Dawg would say "everything
matters".
Look elsewhere for infuences but don't turn a blind eye to your own
heritage. Dawgs appreciation of the Marshall pottery and "As is" Priddy =
pays
due respect to Nell Graves. these two folks know the richness of the =
local
long tradition.
there are many local heroes. Why do you do it that way? Because me =
father
did and his father before that.
Cheers,
Mebbe you have been eating some of itHEHEHEHE......I bet, though =
you have no desire to make teabowls, you damn well could whip up some =
shiners.....I see you late tonight furtively throwing in the =
darkHOHOHOHOHO=20
I never said you hadda make teabowls......I never said I can't =
handle handles.....I was explaining why I don't need one to get a =
drink....Another source of my cup handle hatred is the established fact =
of my carving fetish.....I don't see much way to hang a big hanger on =
the side without violating the immediacy and impact of the designs.....
Leave it to only you to come up with as many reasons for putting =
handles on as I have for leaving them off, and to write it down in a =
fairly beautiful way......
I don't make domestic ware?????....well then where the hell has all =
my clay been going to!!!! I make useful pots for the food ceremony, and =
pots useful in all my ceremonies which are one ceremony which last from =
the moment I wake up till the moment I wake up...
I make teabowls to make a dime???????AHHHHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHOHOHO
No one "needs" a fertility mask, I hear that some people get by by =
rubbing noses in their mukluks.....
I think if you check my long pedigree you will find a plethora of =
influences....Obtaining a long pedigree with a plethora is really easy =
today.....Discretion is a little tougher nut to crack.....My biggest =
heroes are the Jomon people....I think if you check you will find them =
on a older higher pedestal than the chawan(American English =
translation-kickass teabowls).....I also have taken particular notice of =
Native American ceramic tradition....My brother Spirit Raven is a known =
story teller....the stories are sweeter than the pots from his =
mouth....the pots tell the stories....Other masters Picasso, Van Eyck, =
Unknown Celtics, early Chinese, Rembrant, Durer, Bosch, Albert Collins, =
and of course Mel, Tommy, You(Tony), David, EP riding a horse, Dannon =
riding a horse, and maybe a couple others........People who have =
directly helped my ceramic progress in a big way would include Anne =
Currier, Val Cushing, Jeff Oestricke(?), Lisa and Leah Ehrich, Barbara =
Brault, Aki, Don Taylor, Sam Clarkson........I might could do this all =
night........
Or as my son would used to say.."that's how you don't do it"=20
Aside to my newfound critics.......I never asked anyone to =
criticize any damn thing ....I especially did not ask anyone to tarnish =
the tribute bowls for me(as if).....Talk about disrespect!!!!!!talk =
about arrogance!!!!!.....I could have been one of you....When I was 18 I =
went to college and took an art class where "working artists"HEHEHEHE =
dragged their little degrees in and paraded them around the room.....One =
pompass ass said "I had a student once who I told was doing something =
wrong and he had the gall to ask me why it was wrong" Now this was no =
ordinary pompass ass .....This guy would take 6' square canvases and =
paint them all babyshit(need a definition?) green and then dribble a =
little red and white on them whilst listening to Opera(HEHEHE, What a =
scene, What a scene)......Natcherly, having been an artist for as long =
as I could remember, when question time came I asked his pompass ass =
just what it was the "student" had done wrong???......He said, =
"HARUMPH....I can't answer that" Since I had just had 6 primo paintings =
stolen by a gallery(naive me) I was feeling feisty and said, "I knew you =
could not"......I also walked out the door and went to see if anyone in =
the sign business knew anything about art....and that's another story
Those of you with thin skins should probably DELETE and definitely =
NOT be trying to critique me because I will refute your every =
point.....and if you choose to be assinine enough I will exercise a =
little DELETE action myself
Getting hot and muggy already in Dallas
=20
artimator
artimator@earthlink.net=20
http://www.geocities.com/artimator/index.html=20
http://home.earthlink.net/~artimator/index.html
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/texasceramics
"I only indulge when I've seen a snake, so I keep a supply of =
indulgences and snakes handy"
clennell on wed 14 feb 01
If a potter doesn't make
> teabowls(American English) they don't make anything.
Dear Art; You got me wondering . Where the hell has all my clay been
going????? I must be just spinning my wheels. I don't make t-bowls and
really have no desire to. Everything I start as a vase ends up being a jug
and every vessel I make including a plate has a little handle/lug. For me
the handle is my form. Yes it is part of the form that i have in my minds
eye when I make pots. It is the embellishment, the jewellery, the belt, the
tie, the detail. Undressed without it.
I take as much pleasure in making handles as in throwing on the wheel. a
look at your work leads me to understand why you don't understand handles.
You're not a maker of domestic ware. Useful pots for the the ritual of
eating. the t-bowl thing is a way to make a dime. Everyone needs a cup but
not everyone needs a fertility mask.
My handles have become my trademark. I try to give it all to them nice
handle, nice trimmed footring, movement in the throwing and a pleasant
glaze. god is in the details or as Junkyard Dawg would say "everything
matters".
Look elsewhere for infuences but don't turn a blind eye to your own
heritage. Dawgs appreciation of the Marshall pottery and "As is" Priddy pays
due respect to Nell Graves. these two folks know the richness of the local
long tradition.
there are many local heroes. Why do you do it that way? Because me father
did and his father before that.
Cheers,
tony
Lois Ruben Aronow on wed 14 feb 01
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:25:05 +0800, you wrote:
>If a potter doesn't make
>> teabowls(American English) they don't make anything.
>
>Dear Art; You got me wondering . Where the hell has all my clay been
>going????? I must be just spinning my wheels. I don't make t-bowls and
>really have no desire to. Everything I start as a vase ends up being a =
jug
>and every vessel I make including a plate has a little handle/lug. For =
me
>the handle is my form.=20
Thanks Tony. Although I often hate making 'em, I feel the handle is
essential to many forms, providing grace and balance.
My very favourite potter, Takeshi Yasuda, makes THE most wonderful
plates with handles. In a workshop of his, we spent an entire day
discussing the endless possibilities of handles - it was life changing
for me.
I think Artimater might be a little rough with his wares, as he claims
to knock the handles off his forms. I guess swinging those giant
cahones around can do that.
A last thought of mine on the Tea bowl subject -- I don't know anyone
in real life who actually uses one on a daily basis. I have seen
people use them at workshops, but will just as soon choose a mug given
the choice. =20
Lois Ruben Aronow on thu 15 feb 01
> I never said you hadda make teabowls......
Yes you did...and i quote:
>>.You see I'm on a mission from god....I'm going to convert all you =
handle hanger-oners to my way ...."the Righteous and Correct way of =
Imbibing"
> No one "needs" a fertility mask, I hear that some people get by by=
rubbing noses in their mukluks.....
I'm 42 and pregnant. The LAST thing I want right now is a fertility
mask.
> I think if you check my long pedigree you will find a plethora of =
influences....
I looked at your web site, and found nothing more than a hard-to-read
title and a fertility mask. there were no links to wares, or your
resume, or anything else.
>One pompass ass said "I had a student once who I told was doing =
something wrong and he had the gall to ask me why it was wrong" =20
Actually, it's spelled "pompous".
> Those of you with thin skins should probably DELETE and definitely =
NOT be trying to critique me because I will refute your every =
point.....and if you choose to be assinine enough I will exercise a =
little DELETE action myself
I actually kinda enjoy reading your rants. that said, i believe the
aforementioned "pompass (sic) ass" is you. freedom of speech means
EVERYONE gets a chance to talk and make a fool of themselves, and you
seem to have exceeded your quota.
> Getting hot and muggy already in Dallas
> =20
......Lois
pregnant and feisty in NYC
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