Richard Aerni on mon 19 feb 01
Bruce,
Not sure what shows you are applying to...
The ones I apply to generally note in their application forms that one _must
not_ place any kind of stick on labels to the slides. This can cause the
projectors to jam when the jury process is going on, which is a real drag.
More and more of the shows seem to be going to the NAIA standard, in which a
red dot is at the bottom left of the slide, your slide number is on the
bottom right, your medium in between the two, and your name is on the top.
That way you can use your slides to apply to more than one show; before this
standard was pushed, every show wanted different info in different places on
the slides...most inconvenient for the poor artist.
Also, not to be too picky, but isn't it just a lot easier and quicker to
take a ball point pen and put your info on the slide mount?
Respectfully,
Richard Aerni
Bloomfield, NY
> Does anyone out there have a program that accomplishes what we, as
potters,
> need* and is easy and convenient to use?
> *By "what we, as potters, need" I would include things like
> 1) small, yet easy-to-read, fonts
> 2) simple graphics imports so I can place an UP arrow on the label if
> required
> 3) ability to print several different variations of a label on one sheet
> without multiple passes through the printer
> 4) preview of the label page to be printed
>
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Bruce Girrell on mon 19 feb 01
Greetings all,
Just wondering if any of you have a favorite program that you use for
labeling your slides for jury submissions. I'm currently using a program
that I despise more and more each time that I [try to] use it.
Does anyone out there have a program that accomplishes what we, as potters,
need* and is easy and convenient to use?
Bruce "there's gotta be a better way" and Lynne "don't you have those labels
ready yet?" Girrell
*By "what we, as potters, need" I would include things like
1) small, yet easy-to-read, fonts
2) simple graphics imports so I can place an UP arrow on the label if
required
3) ability to print several different variations of a label on one sheet
without multiple passes through the printer
4) preview of the label page to be printed
Valice Raffi on tue 20 feb 01
Thanks John, for the information about the "erasable" marker from Porter's.
I've been using a Sharpie Ultra Fine, and hoping that the NAIA standard
will be acceptable. I wish everyone would use that standard.
For the red dot, I found that a PaperMate F-16 (red) permanent marker works
the best - no smearing.
Now if we could just get the people who mark our entry numbers on the
slides to quit using regular pens..., I'd be pretty happy.
Valice
in Sacramento
Jean Lehman on tue 20 feb 01
Be very sure that the jurying rules allow slide labels to be used before
you automatically use them. Our exhibition has had many problems with
labels that get stuck in the carrousels. Therefore, this year for the first
time, we asked our applicants to write directly on the mounting. Most of
them did as we asked, and we removed the labels from those who didn't
comply. It certainly made previewing over 1000 slides a LOT easier! When
labels first appeared and were printed, and easy to read, we loved them.
But then came those sticking problems. When a juror has that many slides to
view over and over, it helps if the slides don't give him or her problems!
Jean Lehman
Director, Strictly Functional Pottery National, which will appear online
when the show opens April 6th. In the meantime the 2000 exhibition can
still be seen at: http://www.art-craftpa.com/sfpn1.html
>Just wondering if any of you have a favorite program that you use for
>labeling your slides for jury submissions. I'm currently using a program
>that I despise more and more each time that I [try to] use it.
....
Marie Gibbons on tue 20 feb 01
more shows may be moving towards this direction, but alot of shows still
request their own labeling format... I wouldn't pre lable slides that are
slated for submission, keep one page of 'master' slides, so that if you need
to make copies, for your own record etc. label those with all the info
(name, dimensions, title etc.) and leave the dups blank till you read the
prospectus and see how that particular show wants the slide labeled.
marie
www.oooladies.com
colorado
In a message dated 2/20/01 4:16:43 AM Pacific Standard Time,
rcaerni@FRONTIERNET.NET writes:
> More and more of the shows seem to be going to the NAIA standard, in which a
> red dot is at the bottom left of the slide, your slide number is on the
> bottom right, your medium in between the two, and your name is on the top.
> That way you can use your slides to apply to more than one show; before this
> standard was pushed, every show wanted different info in different places on
> the slides...most inconvenient for the poor artist
Snail Scott on tue 20 feb 01
At 12:37 AM 2/20/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Be very sure that the jurying rules allow slide labels to be used before
>you automatically use them.
>Jean Lehman
I understand why many shows no longer accept
stick-on labels, but hand-writing the info
is difficult, especially since many film
processors use plastic mounts only. Also,
since every show has different info
requirements, a slide must typically be
relabeled every time it is used. This is
much easier with stick-on labels, which can
either be peeled or covered over with the
replacement. The 'liquid paper' buildup can
become substantial after a few layers,
especially since I usually apply a primer
coat of the stuff in order to write on the
plastic. This leads to the ludicrous process
of sanding down my slide mounts to a layer
smooth enough to write on!
It would be nice if a standard label format
could be chosen. There is a Library of
Congress standard, but it doesn't include
some of the info that shows typically
require, like medium and size. This info
is generally included on the slide list,
though. Is it really necessary to have
anything but name and title on the slide
itself? (jurors out there, opinions?)
ArtCalendar magazine tried to promote this
solution a few years ago, and it would be
nice if an 'industry standard', LoC or
otherwise, could be arrived at.
Pie in the sky, I know, if we can't even
arrive at a consensus about defining
'low-fire' or 'engobe' or even 'handmade'!
Wouldn't it be a nice world to live in,
though?
-Snail
p.s. I'm currently using a Brother 'P-touch'
hand-held labeller. Not perfect, but a big
improvement for me.
-S
scott lykens on tue 20 feb 01
i hear the one that avery sells to go with their labels works nice.
However i use the program that came with windows 98 and i type in the avery
package #.
Its not always toatally accurate, so i bought enough labels for 200 sheets
of dupes and adjusted things once and saved it and problems are gone.
maybe this works for you, maybe not, best wishes
scott lykens
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>Be very sure that the jurying rules allow slide labels to be used before
>you automatically use them. Our exhibition has had many problems with
>labels that get stuck in the carrousels. Therefore, this year for the first
>time, we asked our applicants to write directly on the mounting. Most of
>them did as we asked, and we removed the labels from those who didn't
>comply. It certainly made previewing over 1000 slides a LOT easier! When
>labels first appeared and were printed, and easy to read, we loved them.
>But then came those sticking problems. When a juror has that many slides to
>view over and over, it helps if the slides don't give him or her problems!
>
>Jean Lehman
>Director, Strictly Functional Pottery National, which will appear online
>when the show opens April 6th. In the meantime the 2000 exhibition can
>still be seen at: http://www.art-craftpa.com/sfpn1.html
>
>
> >Just wondering if any of you have a favorite program that you use for
> >labeling your slides for jury submissions. I'm currently using a program
> >that I despise more and more each time that I [try to] use it.
>...
>
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John Hesselberth on tue 20 feb 01
Snail Scott wrote:
>I understand why many shows no longer accept
>stick-on labels, but hand-writing the info
>is difficult, especially since many film
>processors use plastic mounts only.
Hi Snail and others,
There are fine-line photographic marker pens that will easily write on
plastic slide mounts. Porters (800-553-2001), among others, carry them
(Item 62-0241 at 1.95 each). A quick, careful wipe with a solvent like
acetone removes the ink completely.
Regards, John
"The life so short, the craft so long to learn." Hippocrates, 5th cent.
B.C.
David Hendley on wed 21 feb 01
I agree that labels on slides are a mistake because the adhesive
will ALWAYS ooze eventually.
Some thoughts:
Good processors will give you cardboard OR plastic mounts,
returned in boxes OR sheets.
A 'Sharpie Ultra Fine" marker, commonly available, works great
on plastic mounts. It's available in many colors.
It's easy to remove a plastic mount and install a new one.
Just save the mounts from the dozens of reject slides you
get back. If you need to re-label a good slide, take off the
mount and use a new mount, properly labeled.
Although I see no reason to, you can also buy new plastic or
cardboard mounts at the photo supply store. The cardboard
mounts are sealed with heat (the edge of an iron).
Now, how do you keep track of all these slides?
--
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
hendley@tyler.net
http://www.farmpots.com/
Dannon Rhudy on wed 21 feb 01
>
David said:
>
>Now, how do you keep track of all these slides?
They usually come in "slide boxes" and can be
kept that way, but it is unhandy. You can buy
plastic sleeves that hold twenty slides each, in
packets at office supply places, and photo places.
They're pretty cheap, and are pierced for three-
ring notebooks - pretty easy to store that way.
They can also be hung in a file drawer.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
Janet Kaiser on thu 22 feb 01
PageMaker is what I use for EVERYTHING. You can
set it up to the mm but of course, it will only
be as precise as your printer. Out new HL-1250
Brother laser printer is no way as good at my
1984!!! QMS PS-810 :-(
I personally look forward to the day when all
the necessary information such as name, address,
title, medium, etc. can be discretely (say along
the lower edge) included on the image to be
shown or projected. It will make the jurying
process so much easier...
Maybe this will happen when it becomes more
commonplace i.e. cheaper for digital images to
be made into slides?
The only caveat is when human nature kicks in;
"Oh! We don't/do want HIM/HER" because they are
judging the name and not the pot in question.
But that happens anyway, right?
Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art . Capel Celfyddyd
HOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL POTTERS' PATH
Criccieth LL52 0EA, GB-Wales Tel: (01766) 523570
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