C TRIPP on sat 24 feb 01
The art centre where I work has started selling trimming/turning tools to
the students. These tools are imported from Canada and have cutting bands
on both ends and an aluminium (aluminum) handle in between. A student
showed me her tool last week; the cutting bands were covered in rust. I
reported this to the pottery director and was firmly put in my place with,
"The students should oil their tools. I do and they are fine." What? Is
this normal? Who else oils their pottery tools?
Thanks, Carol
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Dannon Rhudy on sun 25 feb 01
...... tools are imported from Canada and have cutting bands
>on both ends and an aluminium (aluminum) handle in between. A student
>showed me .....cutting bands were covered in rust.
...... Who else oils their pottery tools?.........
I do.
For all cutting tools except the stainless ones, I keep a small plastic
container filled with sharp builders sand, into which I have poured
a bit of motor oil - though most any oil would work. At the end
of the studio day I push whatever tools I've used down into the oily sand.
That's how I store them. Keeps the tools clean, free of rust, and I don't
have to sharpen as often. Non-stainless tools keep their edge better
and longer than the stainless ones do, in my experience. Worth
the small trouble of keeping in the sandbox. I've always done that,
and was reminded recently that my grandfather (a tool & die maker
by trade) always kept his gardening and digging tools in a big
washtub of oiled sand. Worked a treat.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
Fabienne Micheline Cassman on sun 25 feb 01
At 06:47 PM 02/24/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>"The students should oil their tools. I do and they are fine." What? Is
>this normal? Who else oils their pottery tools?
Hello Carol,
I don't oil them, but after a couple of rusty spots, I made sure to keep
them clean/free of clay and dry them after thoroughly each use.
I only oil my wooden tools with a wood specific product once a year so they
don't dry to the bone and split.
Fabienne
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Des Howard on mon 26 feb 01
Yep! Got the container in my hand right now, "Rustiban",
used to use it years ago to get rust marks out of my Navy whites.
Just bought it to see if it can remove red clay stains from my white overalls.
By the way, it contains 9.8% hydroflouric acid,
should be strong enough to etch glass.
Des
Rick Hugel wrote:
> Now, does anyone have a remedy for getting iron oxide stains out
> of clothing?
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Rick Hugel on mon 26 feb 01
Oiling tools I know about. Using water damp sand to scrub stains and
hardened substances off buckets I know about. But it never occurred to me
to use oily sand to keep my tools clean.
That's a fabulous piece of information! Why have you been keeping this a
secret! Now, does anyone have a remedy for getting iron oxide stains out
of clothing?
Rick
>..... tools are imported from Canada and have cutting bands
>>on both ends and an aluminium (aluminum) handle in between. A student
>>showed me .....cutting bands were covered in rust.
>..... Who else oils their pottery tools?.........
>
>I do.
>For all cutting tools except the stainless ones, I keep a small plastic
>container filled with sharp builders sand, into which I have poured
>a bit of motor oil - though most any oil would work. At the end
>of the studio day I push whatever tools I've used down into the oily sand.
> That's how I store them. Keeps the tools clean, free of rust, and I don't
>have to sharpen as often. Non-stainless tools keep their edge better
>and longer than the stainless ones do, in my experience. Worth
>the small trouble of keeping in the sandbox. I've always done that,
>and was reminded recently that my grandfather (a tool & die maker
>by trade) always kept his gardening and digging tools in a big
>washtub of oiled sand. Worked a treat.
>
>regards
>
>Dannon Rhudy
>
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Lili Krakowski on mon 26 feb 01
Yes they rust, metal ones do. That is why I dip mine in polyurethane
vrnish when thy nare new, Trimming removes the varnish off the cutting
edges the rest stays shiny.
However for goodness sake: go to a lumber yard pick up some strapping
tape. PUT ON HEAVY GLOVES AND GOGGLES. Cut the strap with tin
snips--bend. Stick into a peice of copper pipe of the type that brins
water into the sink --or b uy appropriate pipe; bend a 3 " piece of strap
force into pipe; whomp pipe with hammer, and the pipe is pinched aroundthe
strap. Voila! Or bend the strap around a piece of old broomstick which
you have flattened on two sides so that strap can lie flat. Cover with
strap and wood with epoxy, wind dental floss around it really tight, let
dry and voila again.
Ndeatest trick of all: re move foam off old foam rubber painting
"brush"--the ends are flattened as above already.
No I do not oil my trimming tools....Never heard of that. Although I do
store my wooden tools in linseed oil...
On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, C TRIPP wrote:
> The art centre where I work has started selling trimming/turning tools to
> the students. These tools are imported from Canada and have cutting bands
> on both ends and an aluminium (aluminum) handle in between. A student
> showed me her tool last week; the cutting bands were covered in rust. I
> reported this to the pottery director and was firmly put in my place with,
> "The students should oil their tools. I do and they are fine." What? Is
> this normal? Who else oils their pottery tools?
>
> Thanks, Carol
>
>
>
>
>
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Lili Krakowski
Louis Katz on tue 27 feb 01
I use a slightly heavier metal for mine. Made em in 1979 in Kansas City, sold them
to other students. 1/8 mild steel. Yup they rust. Unless you are porcelaineous why
worry. I sharpen mine every few months with a file. I am almost out of tools and
willhave to make more soon. So it goes.
Kemper makes everything out of stainless now. The metal ribs worked better when they
were spring steel. The trimming tools are difficult to sharpen and come very dull,
maybe they think we will cut ourselves?
People used to keep garden shovels in a bucket of sand and motor oil. Wouldn't do
this now, motor oil just isn't that great for the environment particularly around my
parsley.
Louis
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