dayton j grant on fri 2 mar 01
Craig, I would say get a really wide wheelhead and put five little'
bearing wheels' along the outside rim of the bottom of the wheelhead
which touch the table and the wheelhead at the same time to eliminate
'teeter' I have a friend who throws eight feet tall and four feet across
and he has the same wobble problem .
What are throwing stones ?
-Throwing stones are just rocks that you hold in your right and left
hands respectively, they should be smooth and of a shape that allows for
a firm grip.
Heres an experiment for you to experience the use of throwing stones
......I throw very hard clay, and theres probably no way you could learn
how to wedge ,center and throw really hard clay in a short time ,so heres
the next best thing ,you take three pounds of the firmest clay that you
can manage and throw a primary cylinder, about 4 inches in diameter (or
just big enough to get your left hand in ) with a wall thickness of about
a half inch and dry it on the wheel with a torch or a hairdryer or
something ,keep the wheel spinning and make the cylinder about a little
softer than leather hard and as even as you can get ,ok ,now you take two
of those kind of oval flat black river rocks with no sharp edges ( or any
rocks that you like)and hold one in your left hand and one in your right
hand and spin the wheel a little slower than you normally would and with
the rocks only (no skin contact )make a 'pull' on the wall of the pot
,you know, press one rock against the other through the wall of the pot
as you move slowly and steadily up the wall thereby thinning it and
making it taller as you go , and try not to be so extreme at first and
then when you get the hang of it you can press them together a little
harder for more 'action' and if you do it right you can make the pot
really thin (2mm)and since the clay is leather hard ,its not soggy at all
so you can do some really wild shapes (like George Ohr) and you will have
much more control of the shape as you progress in this method ,enjoy
and if you try it let me know how it goes .
By the way Im going to be doing a video of this method in the next few
weeks if anyones interested, Ill be sending free samples to whoever wants
'em for the price of postage..later
D.G.,L.A.
Cheryl K Hanley on sat 3 mar 01
Please send me one. I already do very tall pieces running from 16 inches
to around 45 inches tall. I throw porcelain as my media. I would love
to try some really large pieces in a stone ware with little grog. Do you
use a lot of grog in your clay? Thank you for this information. Now I
have to find those rocks your talking about.
Thank you
Cheryl
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:16:44 +0000 dayton j grant
writes:
> Craig, I would say get a really wide wheelhead and put five little'
> bearing wheels' along the outside rim of the bottom of the
> wheelhead
> which touch the table and the wheelhead at the same time to
> eliminate
> 'teeter' I have a friend who throws eight feet tall and four feet
> across
> and he has the same wobble problem .
>
> What are throwing stones ?
> -Throwing stones are just rocks that you hold in your right and left
> hands respectively, they should be smooth and of a shape that allows
> for
> a firm grip.
>
> Heres an experiment for you to experience the use of throwing stones
> .....I throw very hard clay, and theres probably no way you could
> learn
> how to wedge ,center and throw really hard clay in a short time ,so
> heres
> the next best thing ,you take three pounds of the firmest clay that
> you
> can manage and throw a primary cylinder, about 4 inches in diameter
> (or
> just big enough to get your left hand in ) with a wall thickness of
> about
> a half inch and dry it on the wheel with a torch or a hairdryer or
> something ,keep the wheel spinning and make the cylinder about a
> little
> softer than leather hard and as even as you can get ,ok ,now you
> take two
> of those kind of oval flat black river rocks with no sharp edges (
> or any
> rocks that you like)and hold one in your left hand and one in your
> right
> hand and spin the wheel a little slower than you normally would and
> with
> the rocks only (no skin contact )make a 'pull' on the wall of the
> pot
> ,you know, press one rock against the other through the wall of the
> pot
> as you move slowly and steadily up the wall thereby thinning it and
> making it taller as you go , and try not to be so extreme at first
> and
> then when you get the hang of it you can press them together a
> little
> harder for more 'action' and if you do it right you can make the pot
> really thin (2mm)and since the clay is leather hard ,its not soggy
> at all
> so you can do some really wild shapes (like George Ohr) and you will
> have
> much more control of the shape as you progress in this method ,enjoy
> and if you try it let me know how it goes .
>
> By the way Im going to be doing a video of this method in the next
> few
> weeks if anyones interested, Ill be sending free samples to whoever
> wants
> 'em for the price of postage..later
> D.G.,L.A.
>
>
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Estrellita Ammirati on sat 3 mar 01
Dayton:
Please put me on the list for the video on the use of
throwing stones. I'm interested in throwing large
and tall and new techniques to achieve a goal are
always worthwhile. Thanks.
Estrellita
--- dayton j grant wrote:
> Craig, I would say get a really wide wheelhead and
> put five little'
> bearing wheels' along the outside rim of the bottom
> of the wheelhead
> which touch the table and the wheelhead at the same
> time to eliminate
> 'teeter' I have a friend who throws eight feet tall
> and four feet across
> and he has the same wobble problem .
>
> What are throwing stones ?
> -Throwing stones are just rocks that you hold in
> your right and left
> hands respectively, they should be smooth and of a
> shape that allows for
> a firm grip.
>
> Heres an experiment for you to experience the use of
> throwing stones
> .....I throw very hard clay, and theres probably no
> way you could learn
> how to wedge ,center and throw really hard clay in a
> short time ,so heres
> the next best thing ,you take three pounds of the
> firmest clay that you
> can manage and throw a primary cylinder, about 4
> inches in diameter (or
> just big enough to get your left hand in ) with a
> wall thickness of about
> a half inch and dry it on the wheel with a torch or
> a hairdryer or
> something ,keep the wheel spinning and make the
> cylinder about a little
> softer than leather hard and as even as you can get
> ,ok ,now you take two
> of those kind of oval flat black river rocks with no
> sharp edges ( or any
> rocks that you like)and hold one in your left hand
> and one in your right
> hand and spin the wheel a little slower than you
> normally would and with
> the rocks only (no skin contact )make a 'pull' on
> the wall of the pot
> ,you know, press one rock against the other through
> the wall of the pot
> as you move slowly and steadily up the wall thereby
> thinning it and
> making it taller as you go , and try not to be so
> extreme at first and
> then when you get the hang of it you can press them
> together a little
> harder for more 'action' and if you do it right you
> can make the pot
> really thin (2mm)and since the clay is leather hard
> ,its not soggy at all
> so you can do some really wild shapes (like George
> Ohr) and you will have
> much more control of the shape as you progress in
> this method ,enjoy
> and if you try it let me know how it goes .
>
> By the way Im going to be doing a video of this
> method in the next few
> weeks if anyones interested, Ill be sending free
> samples to whoever wants
> 'em for the price of postage..later
> D.G.,L.A.
>
>
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