L. P. Skeen on tue 13 mar 01
Jeff, et al:
In case you missed it, I have taken this on. If you want to put in your two
cents' worth on the current questions, go to
www.smartgroups.com/groups/clayartvotes
join the group there, and cast your vote. PLEASE DO NOT SEND MESSAGES TO
THE GROUP, AS THIS ONLY SERVES TO FILL PEOPLE'S MAILBOXES. Just join and
cast your vote. Currently, there are 5 issues to vote on.
As the votes come to a close, I will inform Clayart of the decisions made.
:) We'll move on from there. What I anticipate is that folks will be able
to bring recipes and photos to NCECA, and that'll save postage for those who
attend. :)
What I have found so far is that cookbook pricing is bracketed according to
the number of recipes included and the #of copies that will be ordered. For
example,say 100 - 300 recipes and 200 copies costs $1.00 per copy, and 301 -
500 recipes and 200 copies costs 1.75 each. THESE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY, to
show how the pricing is done. This is for a cookbook like churches make,
with the plastic comb thing as a spine. I am looking into other styles of
binding, and prices for same. :)
More info as it becomes available. If you have questions, please ask.
Lisa Skeen lpskeen@living-tree.net
----- Original Message -----
> I don't know where the idea for a 'Clayart Cook's' book started, but I
cast
> my vote to pursue the possibility of putting one together.
L. P. Skeen on wed 14 mar 01
Janet,
Please don't get yer knickers in a twist. If you want to make a web-based
cookbook, I encourage you to take on the job, and I will be happy to forward
photos and recipes to you when teh printed book is done. :)
No-one is meant to be excluded from the creation of said cookbook. Some
people don't cook and can't contribute. Others can contribute recipes but
not pot photos. The suggestion that folks bring recipes and photos to NCECA
was for those attending - everyone who can't do that will be able to send
'em in via snailmail, YOU INCLUDED.
The majority of votes so far as to where the profit goes say CERF. I have
not looked into it yet, but I would think that would be an international
thing. Potters for Peace would be as well.
I have volunteered to head this project up, and have a small group of
helpers, and have begun the research, and I think it'll all work out in the
end. If you choose not to participate, I will be sorry, but that is your
choice. :) Whether or not everyone who submits work gets in the cookbook
will depend on several factors, such as:
1. The overall number of submissions
2. The quality of said submissions - not everyone will have photos or
slides that can be printed, even if they are submitted.
3. Cost, which is partially related to #1.
4. Appropriateness of submission - we will decline to print anything not
G-rated, such as Tony's ceramic assholes. ;)
L
----- Original Message -----
> It appears to me, that this whole cookbook thing is becoming a very North
American orientated exercise.,,
> We subscribers in the rest of the world feel left out and disadvantaged
enough already. There are not many of us outside the US, so you may say that
being US-orientated is the democratic rule of the group, but to be
absolutely fair to everyone, I believe this
> should be a web based virtual book and not a printed one.
>
> It should also be possible to include everyone and not just a chosen few.
I do not know who is planning to do the collecting and editing, but I
imagine there would have to be a lot of submissions left out.
Janet Kaiser on wed 14 mar 01
You all know of my life-long love affair with both ceramics AND cooking.
However, I just want you all to hang on a minute before you get too carried away on this one...
It appears to me, that this whole cookbook thing is becoming a very North American orientated exercise. Bring our photos and slides
to NCECA? Chance would be a very fine thing... Send me a plane ticket, pay for accommodation and car hire, plus someone to do my job
whilst I am away and I will be right there with anything you want!
We subscribers in the rest of the world feel left out and disadvantaged enough already. There are not many of us outside the US, so
you may say that being US-orientated is the democratic rule of the group, but to be absolutely fair to everyone, I believe this
should be a web based virtual book and not a printed one.
It should also be possible to include everyone and not just a chosen few. I do not know who is planning to do the collecting and
editing, but I imagine there would have to be a lot of submissions left out.
Apart from the editorial side, printing costs are high and
who is going
to take the financial risk? Posting and packaging?
Warehousing? Banking?
All those sort of things?
A virtual book would involve minimal investment and also
allow for
ongoing updates. You all know how many people join and then
disappear
for one reason or another. Some return to clay art, but
others do not.
Old clay art subscribers (who newcomers only know of through
the
archives) could be contacted and also take part. Future
subscribers too
as more potters around the world join in...
There is the question of proceeds too... If such a book were
to make a
profit, would the money also go to worthy causes world-wide?
Without
wishing to appear rude, the USA is the wealthiest country in
the world,
so even the poorest of the poor are rich compared to the
poor in the
rest of the world. What about supporting a ceramic group
such as the
women Toni M. talked about in South Africa or paying for
some of those
water filters in Bangladesh instead?
But like I say, as we are a global village linked through
the internet,
I vote for a web based "book". It would make a lot more
sense to me and
be much more inclusive, much less elitist. It would also be
accessible
to millions... A brilliant way of promoting clay and
ceramics to potters
and non-potters alike.
"The way to the heart is through the stomach"... Imagine a
search for
Schmalz or Haggis or even Ludefisk coming up with a recipe,
a photo AND
a luscious pot or sculpture?
Just my tuppence worth.
Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art . Capel Celfyddyd
HOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL POTTERS' PATH
Criccieth LL52 0EA, GB-Wales Tel: (01766) 523570
E-mail: postbox@the-coa.org.uk
WEBSITE: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
Richard Jeffery on thu 15 mar 01
good idea - in fact, if the concept came about as a web site, the contents
could then be published by local groups on hard copy to raise money for
charity if there was a clear market to warrant the (smaller scale)
investment. In fact this would permit the core material to be tailored to
the marketing brief of a particular charity, etc. That raises other issues
of ownership and control, but we're all grown up here, are we not?
-----Original Message-----
From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On
Behalf Of Janet Kaiser
Sent: 14 March 2001 23:20
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Clayart Cookbook
You all know of my life-long love affair with both ceramics AND cooking.
However, I just want you all to hang on a minute before you get too carried
away on this one...
It appears to me, that this whole cookbook thing is becoming a very North
American orientated exercise. Bring our photos and slides
to NCECA? Chance would be a very fine thing... Send me a plane ticket, pay
for accommodation and car hire, plus someone to do my job
whilst I am away and I will be right there with anything you want!
We subscribers in the rest of the world feel left out and disadvantaged
enough already. There are not many of us outside the US, so
you may say that being US-orientated is the democratic rule of the group,
but to be absolutely fair to everyone, I believe this
should be a web based virtual book and not a printed one.
It should also be possible to include everyone and not just a chosen few. I
do not know who is planning to do the collecting and
editing, but I imagine there would have to be a lot of submissions left out.
Apart from the editorial side, printing costs are high and
who is going
to take the financial risk? Posting and packaging?
Warehousing? Banking?
All those sort of things?
A virtual book would involve minimal investment and also
allow for
ongoing updates. You all know how many people join and then
disappear
for one reason or another. Some return to clay art, but
others do not.
Old clay art subscribers (who newcomers only know of through
the
archives) could be contacted and also take part. Future
subscribers too
as more potters around the world join in...
There is the question of proceeds too... If such a book were
to make a
profit, would the money also go to worthy causes world-wide?
Without
wishing to appear rude, the USA is the wealthiest country in
the world,
so even the poorest of the poor are rich compared to the
poor in the
rest of the world. What about supporting a ceramic group
such as the
women Toni M. talked about in South Africa or paying for
some of those
water filters in Bangladesh instead?
But like I say, as we are a global village linked through
the internet,
I vote for a web based "book". It would make a lot more
sense to me and
be much more inclusive, much less elitist. It would also be
accessible
to millions... A brilliant way of promoting clay and
ceramics to potters
and non-potters alike.
"The way to the heart is through the stomach"... Imagine a
search for
Schmalz or Haggis or even Ludefisk coming up with a recipe,
a photo AND
a luscious pot or sculpture?
Just my tuppence worth.
Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art . Capel Celfyddyd
HOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL POTTERS' PATH
Criccieth LL52 0EA, GB-Wales Tel: (01766) 523570
E-mail: postbox@the-coa.org.uk
WEBSITE: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
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Barbara Brown on mon 24 dec 01
It is Christmas eve and Santa (the mailman) just arrived with my Clayart
Cookbook. I found my English scone recipe in the bread section right
before Mel's Bread recipe. The recipes are great and it wonderful to see
all the pottery pictures.
Thank you, Lisa.
Great picture of Charlie Riggs on the cover. He and Linda gave ACGA a
great workshop this year here in Calif.
Happy Holidays everyone.
Barbara
Barbara Brown phone/fax 408-736-3889
1225 Manzano Way,Sunnyvale,Ca. 94089
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pammyam on tue 25 dec 01
Mine arrived today, too. Lisa did a great job.
My Sundried Tomato Tapenade is in the Appetizer section, and
my What The Hell Beans is in the Side Dishes for heartier
appetites, although around here, it's a main dish and the
appetites are still fairly hearty.
Cheers, and chow down. I'm looking forward to trying many
of the tempting recipes.
Thanks, all, and most especially, THANKS, LISA!!!!!!!
Pam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara Brown"
To:
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 9:09 PM
Subject: Clayart Cookbook
: It is Christmas eve and Santa (the mailman) just arrived
with my Clayart
: Cookbook. I found my English scone recipe in the bread
section right
: before Mel's Bread recipe. The recipes are great and it
wonderful to see
: all the pottery pictures.
: Thank you, Lisa.
: Great picture of Charlie Riggs on the cover. He and Linda
gave ACGA a
: great workshop this year here in Calif.
: Happy Holidays everyone.
: Barbara
:
: Barbara Brown phone/fax 408-736-3889
: 1225 Manzano Way,Sunnyvale,Ca. 94089
: http://www.silverhawk.com/crafts/bbrown97
: email: bbrown3@webtv.net
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