vince pitelka on sun 11 mar 01
> As for the cost of using an image. I will use a 5,000 copy edition where
> there is a photo taking 1/4 of the page. The amount to pay would be
> approximately, $110.00 CDN. It is not much but it is something.
Terrance -
It is important to realize that the net profit on most ceramics books is
usually quite low, and the publisher and author do not make much off of
them. The artists whose work is pictured in books get excellent publicity,
which may lead to invitations to conduct workshops, may improve chances of
getting work in shows and sales, etc. You have no doubt been to craft shows
where the craftspeople display copies of books or magazines picturing their
work.
As I see it, when our work appears in books, the author and publisher are
doing us a real service by offering this venue for exhibiting and
publicizing our work, and the last thing we want to do is upset the balance
by expecting to getting paid for those images. To my knowledge, in the
ceramics world no one ever gets paid for having photos of their work in
books.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
vince pitelka on tue 13 mar 01
> It may be advantageous for a clayartist to get a photo of his work
published
> . Those published may get workshops or invitations to speak. They The
key
> word here is MAY. It is a conditional and MAY does not necessarly mean
> that some good will come from having the photo in the book. . . . . . .
This stuff
> cost the artist. He should be compensated to some degree.
Terrance -
I can appreciate all your comments, but this arguement is a no-win for you.
As a serious studio artist, it is your responsibility to document your work
for a whole variety of different purposes. You need good slides to enter
shows, to apply for grants or other opportunities, for publicity and
advertising. Beyond all that, you just need to keep a good record of the
work you have done.
Having your work appear in books or magazine articles qualifies as excellent
publicity and/or advertising, and it does not cost you a cent other than the
investment in having good photos made, which you need to be doing anyway for
all the reasons mentioned above. I am always interested in a good debate,
but I cannot see anything worth debating here. If you expect to get paid
for your images, then you cannot really expect your images to ever appear in
books or magazine articles, and you will be missing out on an excellent
opportunity.
> I firmly believe that soliciting photos without remuneration is much the
> same as a boutique asking the artist to pay to show his work and then
taking
> 40 or 50%.
Let's maintain some sort of realistic perspective here. There is nothing
similar in the above at all. We are talking about photos of your work, not
the work itself. If you wanted to advertise in a magazine you would send
images of your work off to the publisher, and pay them a stiff fee to get
your work in print. And besides, in either of these situations you
generally get the slides or transparencies back, so you have not lost any of
your investment at all.
> People will see your work, you will become known, and you will get great
> exposure. Well, I can get exposure by standing in the middle of the
street
> wearing nothing but a rain coat in sub zero weather.
Well . . . . I suppose it all depends on what kind of notoriety you are
after . . . .
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
Marta Matray Gloviczki on tue 13 mar 01
Vince Pitelka wrote:
"...To my knowledge, in the ceramics world no one ever
gets paid for having photos of their work in books..."
Lark books gives you 1 complimentary book, let`s
say worth $35, plus gives you 40% off, that`s $14 per
book, so if you buy 10 books (let`s say for your
parents and your kids--- maybe for some friends and
good costumers) you end up saving $175.
I consider that fair for one slide. But of course I
dont count, because I am happy that I got published!
Marta,
snowed in again! We got a foot yest.
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Ron Roy on fri 16 mar 01
I do - not very much and not very often but still a beginning. If enough of
us stand firm on this it will change.
I have worked hard over the last 35 years to reach whatever level I am at -
it is only during that last 10 years that I have be asked for photos for
major publications - I am not ungrateful however - every one else is making
some profit. All I ask is some compensation for the years I spent
developing some thing worth printing. It's not just the cost of the slides
- much more than that is the time and effort that got me to the point of
having something of value to put in a book.
You can look at it another way - if they won't pay for my slides others
will have a better chance of getting into print - I don't mind at all - but
part of the reason that will happen is because mine cost and others are
free.
RR
To my knowledge, in the
>ceramics world no one ever gets paid for having photos of their work in
>books.
Ron Roy
RR# 4
15084 Little Lake Rd..
Brighton,
Ontario, Canada
KOK 1H0
Residence 613-475-9544
Studio 613-475-3715
Fax 613-475-3513
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