artimater on tue 27 mar 01
LL Wrote while full of good saki:
----- Original Message -----
From: "artimater"
I try to never make the same one twice, and I couldn't if I did try....
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There is a great difference between not being able to make the same =
thing
twice and _choosing_ to make things that are different. The difference =
is
called Craft. Craft gives
you the choice and freedom.
I enjoyed the "butt bongos" thing, but here I think you =
misunderstood.....You left off the end of the sentence where I said =
"there would be subtle differences"....My craft developed over many =
years of total lack of freedom....Then I threw away the fetters and =
chains and now I demand total freedom....I agree with you that in order =
to obtain freedom you must have obtained control....I have =
control....Then again I now have the freedom to try totally new things =
which can and do occasionally fail in my eyes....If I repeated I think =
each repetition would have less life...
My original post contended that there might not be "good or bad" =
form, only form which can only be judged on a personal level.....Steve =
cited good form as having the ability to rise from what it was sitting =
on....I immediately thought of pyramids which are securely grounded yet =
are almost legendary for having power....His second contention was that =
a form should be a complete yet simple construction and coined the term =
"Christmas Tree Pots"....I tend to agree with those thoughts, but I =
think that might just be my own prejudice and not a universal truth...I =
guess if I ever were to be convinced of the existence of the "universal =
good form" I might have to quit because there would be nowhere left to =
go...
So you will find me making "almost good forms" but always with room =
for improvement
"Don't make no difference what you think about me; makes a whole lot of =
difference what I think about you" -Robert Fripp
-artimator
"I only indulge when I've seen a snake, so I keep a supply of =
indulgences and snakes handy"
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mudlark on tue 27 mar 01
I've been following this and now I've got some questions. How many pots do you make now that you don't reproduce them? From what I've read and see on your sight you do make a living at your Craft/Art. I'm also sure you build on your past experience. So whats the deal here. Or, may be I'm just saying the same thing .
There are two main loves in my art life, clay and music. In this way I find them very much the same
When I play a song it developes in a different way each time I play it. Sometimes it's perfect in my eyes (ears), and sometimes it falls short. I'm lately thinking that it's not better or worse, but just different. Either way it can fill my heart with joy.. Sometimes it can make me laugh and sometimes it can make me cry. It's still the same song.
My pots, both one-of -a- kind or production are very much the same as my music only the pots are there to look at the next day. There are days when the pathos of making 100 mugs is just what I need and there are days when one is enough. After the first 12 I'm in the groove and they start looking better and better. Or may be just different. Either way each has a life of it's own. Sometimes they can make me laugh and sometimes they can make me cry.
I could go on and talk about flyfishing, mountain bike riding and raising kids but it could be just more of the same "Bead Game."
I've learned something from every pot I've made over the last 30 yrs.. Sometimes, I just don't remember it all.
Spring in the Colorado Rocky Mountains, Red Winged Black Birds and Blue Winged Olives------anyone want to come and work here for a couple weeks at the end of July so I can go to Lake Taho with my mom?
Clyde
artimater wrote:
> LL Wrote while full of good saki:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "artimater"
>
> I try to never make the same one twice, and I couldn't if I did try....
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> There is a great difference between not being able to make the same thing
> twice and _choosing_ to make things that are different. The difference is
> called Craft. Craft gives
> you the choice and freedom.
>
> I enjoyed the "butt bongos" thing, but here I think you misunderstood.....You left off the end of the sentence where I said "there would be subtle differences"....My craft developed over many years of total lack of freedom....Then I threw away the fetters and chains and now I demand total freedom....I agree with you that in order to obtain freedom you must have obtained control....I have control....Then again I now have the freedom to try totally new things which can and do occasionally fail in my eyes....If I repeated I think each repetition would have less life...
> My original post contended that there might not be "good or bad" form, only form which can only be judged on a personal level.....Steve cited good form as having the ability to rise from what it was sitting on....I immediately thought of pyramids which are securely grounded yet are almost legendary for having power....His second contention was that a form should be a complete yet simple construction and coined the term "Christmas Tree Pots"....I tend to agree with those thoughts, but I think that might just be my own prejudice and not a universal truth...I guess if I ever were to be convinced of the existence of the "universal good form" I might have to quit because there would be nowhere left to go...
> So you will find me making "almost good forms" but always with room for improvement
>
> "Don't make no difference what you think about me; makes a whole lot of difference what I think about you" -Robert Fripp
>
> -artimator
> "I only indulge when I've seen a snake, so I keep a supply of indulgences and snakes handy"
> http://www.geocities.com/artimator/index.html
>
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Clyde Tullis
Mudlark Pottery
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