scott lykens on wed 4 apr 01
The tech at L&L can say this much better than me, but basically this APM
element is a stronger element that will take more abuse, so compared to the
regular element it lasts longer. Whether you abuse sometimes always or
never, it lasts longer, eventually this should prove cost effective to you.
The return just depends on your level of abuse.
If your really abusive you'll be saving $$ almost instantly, and so on.
Both groups seemed very pleasant to deal with, to me, and I recomend calling
them sometime with specific questions so that understanding clay artist's
needs continues to evolve.
Or like my mother always sais, " the sqeaky wheel gets the grease"
sct
>From: John Hesselberth
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: Q: Kilns - L&L JD230 vs Skutt KM1027
>Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 06:30:46 -0400
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Received: from [209.115.31.35] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailBC945A1F006C4004319DD1731F230AC20; Wed Apr 04 05:10:22 2001
>Received: from LSV (209.115.31.36) by mail.acers (Worldmail 1.3.167); 4 Apr
>2001 07:50:40 -0400
>Received: from LSV.CERAMICS.ORG by LSV.CERAMICS.ORG (LISTSERV-TCP/IP
>release 1.8d) with spool id 19777 for CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG;
>Wed, 4 Apr 2001 07:51:05 -0400
>Received: from 207.69.200.25 by LSV.CERAMICS.ORG (SMTPL release 1.0d) with
>TCP; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 05:16:00 -0500
>Received: from [165.121.87.84] (user-2inilqk.dialup.mindspring.com
>[165.121.87.84]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with
>ESMTP id GAA32430 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001
>06:30:46 -0400 (EDT)
>From owner-clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG Wed Apr 04 05:11:50 2001
>Approved-By: melpots2@PCLINK.COM
>User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022
>Message-ID:
>Sender: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>In-Reply-To: <41.9bb8fb6.27fbda66@aol.com>
>
>Hi Shula,
>
>I did have a Skutt; I bought an L&L when it was time for a bigger kiln.
>Although they are both quality products, I give the edge to L&L. It is the
>element holders and the vent system that make the difference. Look at any
>20 year old L&L vs. a 20 year old Skutt. The brick element grooves are
>usually all broken out on the Skutt with elements often drooping out of the
>grooves. The L&L will still be in good shape. Changing elements on the
>Skutt eventually results in broken bricks where the elements grooves are.
>With respect to the vent system, the L&L is under negative pressure between
>the kiln and the wall. The Skutt is under positive pressure. This means
>if
>you have a pinhole leak in your vent, the Skutt pumps fumes back into the
>room; the L&L still vents them out through the wall. The Skutt vent is
>also
>bound to suffer more from heat being mounted underneath the kiln. Vertical
>position of the vent on the wall with the L&L should make no difference. I
>also have a 3 zone computer on my L&L. It has worked flawlessly and is the
>only way I would buy a kiln of any brand these days. I believe nearly all
>the computer controllers are made by the same outfit (Bartlett) with the
>same technology (Orton). They just have different labels on the front.
>Good luck with your decision.
>
>Regards, John
>
>Web site: http://www.frogpondpottery.com Email: john@frogpondpottery.com
>
>"The life so short, the craft so long to learn." Chaucer's translation of
>Hippocrates, 5th cent. B.C.
>
>
> > So, my questions are
> > - Does anyone have experience with both L&L and Skutt and if so, do you
> > prefer one over the other (and why)?
> > - Has anyone used an L&L with the electronic controls? What is your
> > experience - good, bad, or ugly?
> > - Is it worth paying hundreds of dollars more for APM elements?
>According to
> > the Skutt literature, I should have them if I want to fire crystal
>glazes or
> > consistently to cone 10. I won't fire consistently to cone 10, but I
>would
> > like to try my hand at crystalline glazes.
> > - Does anyone have experience with the L&L vent system? The motor for
>the
> > vent is on the wall rather than at the kiln. I see this as an advantage.
>
>______________________________________________________________________________
>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
>You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
>settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
>Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
>melpots@pclink.com.
_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Charles Moore on wed 4 apr 01
I'm feeling a little dumb. What do the "L's" in L&L kiln stand for?
Charles
camoore33@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "scott lykens"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: Q: Kilns - L&L JD230 vs Skutt KM1027
..com.
| |
|
