craig clark on tue 10 apr 01
I have a student that was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrom. =
This individual just went through a battery of tests that indicate that =
she has high levels of mercury, arsenic and aluminum in her system.
I can't think of any possible source of the mercury or arsenic in =
the studio, other than the water. I've never knowingly imported or used =
either of these elements in any clay body or glaze. Could the aluminum =
possibly come from the alumina?
Any help, answers or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 St.
Houston, Texas
(713) 861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org
CINDI ANDERSON on wed 11 apr 01
I have had this for several years on and off. The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome isn't necessarily caused by the heavy metals, just to clarify that. You didn't say they were but...
There are very complicated biochemical processes that happen in normal people to detoxify everything from food and water to medications, chemicals, and heavy metals. This happens primarily in the liver but also involves many other organs. In many
people which Chronic Fatigue Syndrome these detox pathways are not functioning well. So they are more likely to not deal well with things like mercury and aluminum. However, most people have these substances in them to some degree. Mercury is
usually from amalgam fillings, thermometers (people used to play with the bouncing balls of mercury as kids), mines, and vaccines (mercury is used as a preservative.) It is obviously very toxic and many people believe amalgam fillings are
responsible for a lot of illness today. It is not even legal in many countries and probably won't be here someday. But there are many many people with these fillings that aren't bothered by them at all. They now think there may be an enzyme that
5% of the people don't have, and these people cannot detoxify heavy metals. (Before you rush out and pull your fillings out, that releases a lot more mercury than leaving them in, unless you use proper removal techniques which not many dentists
know.) Aluminum is often gotten from antiperspirants, pots and pans, antacids, etc. As you've probably read recently, it has now been proven in Alzheimers and is suspected in many other illnesses. I don't know much about arsenic.
So whatever your hear from the experts about ceramic materials (ie the Alumina question), the odds are very low that your studio would be responsible. These are common problems with people that are never exposed to ceramics.
Also, there are tons of places this student can look for information. If you want to have her email me offline I'll send her some great links and information. I've been reading about this stuff for 2 hours a day for many years.
Cindi
craig clark wrote:
> I have a student that was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrom. This individual just went through a battery of tests that indicate that she has high levels of mercury, arsenic and aluminum in her system.
> I can't think of any possible source of the mercury or arsenic in the studio, other than the water. I've never knowingly imported or used either of these elements in any clay body or glaze. Could the aluminum possibly come from the alumina?
> Any help, answers or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> Craig Dunn Clark
> 619 East 11 1/2 St.
> Houston, Texas
> (713) 861-2083
> mudman@hal-pc.org
>
Philip on wed 11 apr 01
A curious note on 'Aluminum'...
It has been given me to understand, at least in my regard for the quality of
information this person 'has'...that some of the (so-called) 'Chem-Trails'
which resemble 'Vapour-trails' in the sky...are purported to contain forms
of Aluminum in a very 'fine' state...
As well as containing other elements or compounds at times.
I am told that many people are being adversly affected by absorbing,
aspirating or injesting the minute particles of these 'Trails' as they may
find their way to the Earth's surface, water systems, and so on.
I do not know about this other than what I have been told, but thought it
might elicit some more informed response from someone here on Clay Art.
I should like to know more about these.
The symptoms are supposed to be that of the infamous 'Chronic Fatigue
Syndrome'.
These purported 'Chem-Trails' are said to occur in an often 'grid-like'
series of intercrosses or paralell lines.
?
Phil
lvn
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Subject: possible health hazards for person with chronic fatigue syndrom
I have a student that was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrom. This
individual just went through a battery of tests that indicate that she has
high levels of mercury, arsenic and aluminum in her system.
I can't think of any possible source of the mercury or arsenic in the
studio, other than the water. I've never knowingly imported or used either
of these elements in any clay body or glaze. Could the aluminum possibly
come from the alumina?
Any help, answers or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 St.
Houston, Texas
(713) 861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org
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ferenc jakab on thu 12 apr 01
I have a student that was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrom. This
individual just went through a battery of tests that indicate that she has
high levels of mercury, arsenic and aluminum in her system.
I can't think of any possible source of the mercury or arsenic in the
studio, other than the water. I've never knowingly imported or used either
of these elements in any clay body or glaze. Could the aluminum possibly
come from the alumina?
Any help, answers or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
As a sufferer of chronic fatigue and having researched this considerably
(But not claiming expertise!) I would say your student's symptoms are
intoxication. The problem with chronic fatigue is that all the tests rarely
show anything at all. In my own case there is a slight increase in parietal
cells from the stomach wall which suggested an auto immune response is
partially to blame. My chronic fatigue developed after a bout of glandular
fever followed by a severe urinary tract/ kidney infection.
If your student got these results through genuine medical tests and not some
half baked alternative medicine opinion. Then I am puzzled by the doctor's
diagnosis and the apparent lack of concern for the presence of these toxins.
I feel should be suffering something far more life threatening than chronic
fatigue.
No doubt those far more expert than I will shed greater light on this
subject.
Feri
Charlie and Linda Riggs on thu 12 apr 01
Craig,
Sorry to hear about your student. CFS is a very painful and life-altering experience and the person will need all of the validation and support that he/she can get.
As for the cause of CFS: The theories range from viral infection, stress, genetic predisposition and toxic exposure and/or a combination of the above.
I would venture to guess that your student's chemical exposures come from other sources than just association with the pottery studio. There are so many people being diagnosed with this illness that have never stepped foot in a ceramic studio and
these chemicals contaminates are pervasive other parts of our environment.
Please let your student know that he/she can get better with time and that there is a solid support group of people who know what it is like to live with CFS. I know of what I speak having lived with this disease for 9 years. I have gone from
being confined to a bed and a wheelchair for 4 years to being about 80% back to normal most of the time--- (although Charlie claims I was never "normal") and I have aquaintances who have recovered completely.
For more information about possible causes of CFS or CFIDS check out:
www.cfids.org
That is the website for the CFIDS Association of America. They have information and links to all the latest research and specialists in the field. There is also an online support group.
If your student is too sick to use the computer but needs to talk to someone, they can call me anytime at 910-673-4036.
Linda Riggs
craig clark wrote:
> I have a student that was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrom. This individual just went through a battery of tests that indicate that she has high levels of mercury, arsenic and aluminum in her system.
> I can't think of any possible source of the mercury or arsenic in the studio, other than the water. I've never knowingly imported or used either of these elements in any clay body or glaze. Could the aluminum possibly come from the alumina?
> Any help, answers or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> Craig Dunn Clark
> 619 East 11 1/2 St.
> Houston, Texas
> (713) 861-2083
> mudman@hal-pc.org
>
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