jackmm on wed 18 apr 01
Joanne
Try to find some one who sharpens router bit, drill bits, etc. They have =
a
coating that they apply to keep the sharpened edges from damage. MJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Joanne L. Van Bezooyen
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:47 AM
Subject: tile protection
>For those who don't know, I am a custom tile artist. Most of the tiles
>I make are not geometrically shaped, but freeform or in the shape of an
>animal, item, etc..
>For installations on walls to be stuccoed or plastered over, I tape the
>tops of the tiles to protect them from being scratched by the cement
>application.
>I am looking for a 'substance' like a silicone or ???? which is a liquid
>that I can just dip the top of the tiles into. This substance will dry
>firm and protect the tiles from harm during installation. Afterwards, I
>can easily and quickly peel the 'substance' off the tile.
>Can anyone guess what this 'substance' is?
>Does anyone have a suggestion or experience with a 'substance' I can use
>for these jobs? How about elastic roof coating? Is there a thin
>silicone?
>My objective is to cut down on the time I spend taping and especially
>trimming the tape to fit.
>
>Joanne
>
>--
>Joanne L. Van Bezooyen
>520-749-1685
>Art Gecko Designs
>http://www.arteriordesigns.com/noname.html
>voice & fax: 520 760-1584
>11220 East Via Madre
>Tucson, Arizona 85749 USA
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Joanne L. Van Bezooyen on wed 18 apr 01
For those who don't know, I am a custom tile artist. Most of the tiles
I make are not geometrically shaped, but freeform or in the shape of an
animal, item, etc..
For installations on walls to be stuccoed or plastered over, I tape the
tops of the tiles to protect them from being scratched by the cement
application.
I am looking for a 'substance' like a silicone or ???? which is a liquid
that I can just dip the top of the tiles into. This substance will dry
firm and protect the tiles from harm during installation. Afterwards, I
can easily and quickly peel the 'substance' off the tile.
Can anyone guess what this 'substance' is?
Does anyone have a suggestion or experience with a 'substance' I can use
for these jobs? How about elastic roof coating? Is there a thin
silicone?
My objective is to cut down on the time I spend taping and especially
trimming the tape to fit.
Joanne
--
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520-749-1685
Art Gecko Designs
http://www.arteriordesigns.com/noname.html
voice & fax: 520 760-1584
11220 East Via Madre
Tucson, Arizona 85749 USA
scott lykens on wed 18 apr 01
have
>. hav eyou thought about ammonia latex, ??
some folks brush it on greenware or bisqueware to resist glaze coverage.
you peel it off later, you could dip into a container of the stuff and peel
it off later, i know some airbrush artists that use it like a paintable
frisket. brush on spray over, I dont know how much abuse that would take,
but it could work nicely.
:)
>Organization: http://www.arteriordesigns.com/noname.html
>
>For those who don't know, I am a custom tile artist. Most of the tiles
>I make are not geometrically shaped, but freeform or in the shape of an
>animal, item, etc..
>For installations on walls to be stuccoed or plastered over, I tape the
>tops of the tiles to protect them from being scratched by the cement
>application.
>I am looking for a 'substance' like a silicone or ???? which is a liquid
>that I can just dip the top of the tiles into. This substance will dry
>firm and protect the tiles from harm during installation. Afterwards, I
>can easily and quickly peel the 'substance' off the tile.
>Can anyone guess what this 'substance' is?
>Does anyone have a suggestion or experience with a 'substance' I can use
>for these jobs? How about elastic roof coating? Is there a thin
>silicone?
>My objective is to cut down on the time I spend taping and especially
>trimming the tape to fit.
>
>Joanne
>
>--
>Joanne L. Van Bezooyen
>520-749-1685
>Art Gecko Designs
>http://www.arteriordesigns.com/noname.html
>voice & fax: 520 760-1584
>11220 East Via Madre
>Tucson, Arizona 85749 USA
>
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Howard Scoggins on wed 18 apr 01
Joanne: I'm a tile maker myself and I know the problem of which you
speak. Here is what I am doing. Go to a Paint Store--a real one where
they formulate and mix their product. Tell them you want a gallon of the
latex base with a dab of white colorant in it. It isn't cheap. Locally I
pay $28 a gallon. When you use it dilute to one part latex to two parts
distilled water. The water should be tepid, not cold. Paint the tile
edges with a one to one and a half inch brush, When the grout is firm
wipe the white latex band off with a carpet remnant. Works for me (:-].
Howard Scoggins
Joanne L. Van Bezooyen wrote:
>
> For those who don't know, I am a custom tile artist. Most of the tiles
> I make are not geometrically shaped, but freeform or in the shape of an
> animal, item, etc..
> For installations on walls to be stuccoed or plastered over, I tape the
> tops of the tiles to protect them from being scratched by the cement
> application.
> I am looking for a 'substance' like a silicone or ???? which is a liquid
> that I can just dip the top of the tiles into. This substance will dry
> firm and protect the tiles from harm during installation. Afterwards, I
> can easily and quickly peel the 'substance' off the tile.
> Can anyone guess what this 'substance' is?
> Does anyone have a suggestion or experience with a 'substance' I can use
> for these jobs? How about elastic roof coating? Is there a thin
> silicone?
> My objective is to cut down on the time I spend taping and especially
> trimming the tape to fit.
>
> Joanne
>
> --
> Joanne L. Van Bezooyen
> 520-749-1685
> Art Gecko Designs
> http://www.arteriordesigns.com/noname.html
> voice & fax: 520 760-1584
> 11220 East Via Madre
> Tucson, Arizona 85749 USA
>
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Matt MacIntire on wed 18 apr 01
Joanne wrote:
>> I am looking for a 'substance' like a silicone or ????
>> which is a liquid that I can just dip the top of
>> the tiles into.
What about a latex/rubber moldmaking emulsion? Dip or brush it on, in
layers if you need greater thickness. It dries to a thin rubbery film that
should (?) peel off ceramic tiles easily. It is designed to go over clay
and plaster to make flexible molds.
I have never used this for your intended purpose, but the material seems
like it might do what you need. I've seen it at art shops that sell
painters supplies. I imagine it is comparatively expensive, but might save
time.
just an intial thought...
Matt
-----Original Message-----
From: Joanne L. Van Bezooyen [mailto:joannevb@EARTHLINK.NET]
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:01 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: tile protection
For those who don't know, I am a custom tile artist. Most of the tiles
I make are not geometrically shaped, but freeform or in the shape of an
animal, item, etc..
For installations on walls to be stuccoed or plastered over, I tape the
tops of the tiles to protect them from being scratched by the cement
application.
I am looking for a 'substance' like a silicone or ???? which is a liquid
that I can just dip the top of the tiles into. This substance will dry
firm and protect the tiles from harm during installation. Afterwards, I
can easily and quickly peel the 'substance' off the tile.
Can anyone guess what this 'substance' is?
Does anyone have a suggestion or experience with a 'substance' I can use
for these jobs? How about elastic roof coating? Is there a thin
silicone?
My objective is to cut down on the time I spend taping and especially
trimming the tape to fit.
Joanne
--
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520-749-1685
Art Gecko Designs
http://www.arteriordesigns.com/noname.html
voice & fax: 520 760-1584
11220 East Via Madre
Tucson, Arizona 85749 USA
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Karen Lookenott on wed 18 apr 01
Joanne,
I'm not sure if this would work, but what about liquid latex? I would
think you could either dip it or spay it on, but I am guessing as I have
only used it with a brush. I know that it peels off rather easily after it
is dry. Just a thought.
Karen Lookenott
-----Original Message-----
From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On
Behalf Of Joanne L. Van Bezooyen
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:01 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: tile protection
For those who don't know, I am a custom tile artist. Most of the tiles
I make are not geometrically shaped, but freeform or in the shape of an
animal, item, etc..
For installations on walls to be stuccoed or plastered over, I tape the
tops of the tiles to protect them from being scratched by the cement
application.
I am looking for a 'substance' like a silicone or ???? which is a liquid
that I can just dip the top of the tiles into. This substance will dry
firm and protect the tiles from harm during installation. Afterwards, I
can easily and quickly peel the 'substance' off the tile.
Can anyone guess what this 'substance' is?
Does anyone have a suggestion or experience with a 'substance' I can use
for these jobs? How about elastic roof coating? Is there a thin
silicone?
My objective is to cut down on the time I spend taping and especially
trimming the tape to fit.
Joanne
--
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520-749-1685
Art Gecko Designs
http://www.arteriordesigns.com/noname.html
voice & fax: 520 760-1584
11220 East Via Madre
Tucson, Arizona 85749 USA
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Cindy Strnad on wed 18 apr 01
Hi, Joanne.
I don't have any definitive answer for you--maybe someone else will.
However, I'm musing here, and I wonder if it might be plausible to use some
type of wax which could be stripped after mortaring? Of course, you'd want
to experiment, to make sure you'd actually be able to get the stuff off
completely without damaging the grout, and that it would adequately protect
your tiles. That might be easier than peeling, if it would work.
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
earthenv@gwtc.net
http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
cd on wed 18 apr 01
Joanne:
You might find an answer at the Polytek website:
https://www.polytek.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_main.html
Actually I think that liquid latex would probably work very well for =
you, brush or dip to apply, then peel to remove. Most art stores =
should carry something similiar.
Craig
Joanne L. Van Bezooyen on wed 18 apr 01
Thank you Scott.
I will try it. Is it sold through ceramic suppliers?
scott lykens wrote:
> have
>
> >. hav eyou thought about ammonia latex, ??
> some folks brush it on greenware or bisqueware to resist glaze coverage.
> you peel it off later, you could dip into a container of the stuff and peel
> it off later, i know some airbrush artists that use it like a paintable
> frisket. brush on spray over, I dont know how much abuse that would take,
> but it could work nicely.
> :)
> >Organization: http://www.arteriordesigns.com/noname.html
> >
> >For those who don't know, I am a custom tile artist. Most of the tiles
> >I make are not geometrically shaped, but freeform or in the shape of an
> >animal, item, etc..
> >For installations on walls to be stuccoed or plastered over, I tape the
> >tops of the tiles to protect them from being scratched by the cement
> >application.
> >I am looking for a 'substance' like a silicone or ???? which is a liquid
> >that I can just dip the top of the tiles into. This substance will dry
> >firm and protect the tiles from harm during installation. Afterwards, I
> >can easily and quickly peel the 'substance' off the tile.
> >Can anyone guess what this 'substance' is?
> >Does anyone have a suggestion or experience with a 'substance' I can use
> >for these jobs? How about elastic roof coating? Is there a thin
> >silicone?
> >My objective is to cut down on the time I spend taping and especially
> >trimming the tape to fit.
> >
> >Joanne
> >
> >--
> >Joanne L. Van Bezooyen
> >520-749-1685
> >Art Gecko Designs
> >http://www.arteriordesigns.com/noname.html
> >voice & fax: 520 760-1584
> >11220 East Via Madre
> >Tucson, Arizona 85749 USA
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Joanne L. Van Bezooyen on wed 18 apr 01
Thank you Matt. I will try your idea, too. I will need to do several 'tests' and
report back to the list.
Joanne
Matt MacIntire wrote:
> Joanne wrote:
> >> I am looking for a 'substance' like a silicone or ????
> >> which is a liquid that I can just dip the top of
> >> the tiles into.
>
>
>
> What about a latex/rubber moldmaking emulsion? Dip or brush it on, in
> layers if you need greater thickness. It dries to a thin rubbery film that
> should (?) peel off ceramic tiles easily. It is designed to go over clay
> and plaster to make flexible molds.
>
> I have never used this for your intended purpose, but the material seems
> like it might do what you need. I've seen it at art shops that sell
> painters supplies. I imagine it is comparatively expensive, but might save
> time.
>
> just an intial thought...
>
> Matt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joanne L. Van Bezooyen [mailto:joannevb@EARTHLINK.NET]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:01 AM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: tile protection
>
> For those who don't know, I am a custom tile artist. Most of the tiles
> I make are not geometrically shaped, but freeform or in the shape of an
> animal, item, etc..
> For installations on walls to be stuccoed or plastered over, I tape the
> tops of the tiles to protect them from being scratched by the cement
> application.
> I am looking for a 'substance' like a silicone or ???? which is a liquid
> that I can just dip the top of the tiles into. This substance will dry
> firm and protect the tiles from harm during installation. Afterwards, I
> can easily and quickly peel the 'substance' off the tile.
> Can anyone guess what this 'substance' is?
> Does anyone have a suggestion or experience with a 'substance' I can use
> for these jobs? How about elastic roof coating? Is there a thin
> silicone?
> My objective is to cut down on the time I spend taping and especially
> trimming the tape to fit.
>
> Joanne
>
> --
> Joanne L. Van Bezooyen
> 520-749-1685
> Art Gecko Designs
> http://www.arteriordesigns.com/noname.html
> voice & fax: 520 760-1584
> 11220 East Via Madre
> Tucson, Arizona 85749 USA
>
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KLeSueur@AOL.COM on wed 18 apr 01
In a message dated 4/18/01 11:37:29 AM, joannevb@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
<< I am looking for a 'substance' like a silicone or ???? which is a liquid
that I can just dip the top of the tiles into. This substance will dry
firm and protect the tiles from harm during installation. Afterwards, I
can easily and quickly peel the 'substance' off the tile. >>
Why not just coat them with liquid latex. It brushes on easily and peels off
easily. I know that Minnesota Clay carries it and probably Continental Clay
also.
Kathi LeSueur
Don Goodrich on wed 18 apr 01
Joanne said:
>I am looking for a 'substance' like a silicone or ???? which is a liquid
that I can just dip the top of the tiles into. This substance will dry
firm and protect the tiles from harm during installation. Afterwards, I
can easily and quickly peel the 'substance' off the tile.<
Hi Joanne,
In the machine shop where I work, we use dip-able coatings to protect
freshly sharpened cutting tools during storage. They're peeled off easily
when the tools are needed. Such a product might be suitable for tiles, too.
There are three types of coatings in common use: water-based and
solvent-based rubber, and hot-melt. To see descriptive catalog pages (they're
Adobe Acrobat readable), you can check the McMaster-Carr website:
http://www.mcmaster.com/
and search for the topic "tool coatings".
Other tool suppliers, such as Grainger.com, may have these too.
Hope this helps,
Don Goodrich
goodrichdn@aol.com
Richard Jeffery on wed 18 apr 01
ever tried a thick coat of wax? could probably get it off with a gentle
blowtorch flame
-----Original Message-----
From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On
Behalf Of Joanne L. Van Bezooyen
Sent: 18 April 2001 16:01
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: tile protection
For those who don't know, I am a custom tile artist. Most of the tiles
I make are not geometrically shaped, but freeform or in the shape of an
animal, item, etc..
For installations on walls to be stuccoed or plastered over, I tape the
tops of the tiles to protect them from being scratched by the cement
application.
I am looking for a 'substance' like a silicone or ???? which is a liquid
that I can just dip the top of the tiles into. This substance will dry
firm and protect the tiles from harm during installation. Afterwards, I
can easily and quickly peel the 'substance' off the tile.
Can anyone guess what this 'substance' is?
Does anyone have a suggestion or experience with a 'substance' I can use
for these jobs? How about elastic roof coating? Is there a thin
silicone?
My objective is to cut down on the time I spend taping and especially
trimming the tape to fit.
Joanne
--
Joanne L. Van Bezooyen
520-749-1685
Art Gecko Designs
http://www.arteriordesigns.com/noname.html
voice & fax: 520 760-1584
11220 East Via Madre
Tucson, Arizona 85749 USA
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Pancioli on thu 19 apr 01
We have occasionally papered tiles (such as lustres) with shelf paper or
masking tape to protect them.
Diana
Genice Wimsatt on thu 19 apr 01
Hi Joanne,
I don't know for sure if it would peel off , but you might try "Grip Drip=
=3D
". It's that liquid rubber stuff that you can get at the hardware store. =
=3D
It's for dipping the handles of tools.
I use silicone in my shop for adhesive and it won't peel off after it dri=
=3D
es but if you want to deal with it, lacquer thinner will dissolve it. Ma=
=3D
ybe this will help.
Riva
----- Original Message -----
From: jackmm
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 5:06 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: tile protection
Joanne
Try to find some one who sharpens router bit, drill bits, etc. They have =
=3D
a
coating that they apply to keep the sharpened edges from damage. MJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Joanne L. Van Bezooyen
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:47 AM
Subject: tile protection
>For those who don't know, I am a custom tile artist. Most of the tiles
>I make are not geometrically shaped, but freeform or in the shape of an
>animal, item, etc..
>For installations on walls to be stuccoed or plastered over, I tape the
>tops of the tiles to protect them from being scratched by the cement
>application.
>I am looking for a 'substance' like a silicone or ???? which is a liquid
>that I can just dip the top of the tiles into. This substance will dry
>firm and protect the tiles from harm during installation. Afterwards, I
>can easily and quickly peel the 'substance' off the tile.
>Can anyone guess what this 'substance' is?
>Does anyone have a suggestion or experience with a 'substance' I can use
>for these jobs? How about elastic roof coating? Is there a thin
>silicone?
>My objective is to cut down on the time I spend taping and especially
>trimming the tape to fit.
>
>Joanne
>
>--
>Joanne L. Van Bezooyen
>520-749-1685
>Art Gecko Designs
>http://www.arteriordesigns.com/noname.html
>voice & fax: 520 760-1584
>11220 East Via Madre
>Tucson, Arizona 85749 USA
>
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Robert and Mary Ann Sparacin on fri 20 apr 01
Dear Joanne,
Just a thought, and probably not usable, but when I install a kitchen counter
top in tile, I use epoxy grout. It seals very well and has no grit. I had no
problem with the clean up, but it is a little expensive. However, I would not
consider using the cheaper grout material now.
Also, clear adhesive contact is sometimes used to hold tile patterns together
for transfer to a wall. If instead of pealing off the contact after the adhesive
dries, you cut out around each piece, (razor or hot iron) it would protect the tile
until it is peeled off. However, if you are using a million little tile, it would
be too labor intensive. Perhaps you would then use a harder glaze?
RJS
"Joanne L. Van Bezooyen" wrote:
> I had so many suggestions that I spent hours yesterday trying to find as
> many of the products recommended as possible. One I couldn't find was
> the "latex base" used in formulating paints. I went to a paint
> manufacturer in Tucson and they use an acrylic resin and nothing that
> would help me coat my tiles.
>
> Results:
> ...Rubber Cement....It rubbed off too easily.
> ...Liquid Latex (used by watercolor painters for masking)...This also
> rubbed off too easily. The grouting or stucco or plaster applications
> around my tiles would remove these coatings too quickly.
> ...Insta Mold....mixed with water, it is used to create flexible molds.
> This shrank and came loose from the tiles.
>
> Winners:
> ...Plasti Dip...from Home Depot, Tool department. "Multi-purpose rubber
> coating". One use is to dip tool handles into it for better grips. This
> brushed on easily and quickly, dried the fastest. Once I got hold of an
> edge, it peeled off easily in one thin piece. It did not rub loose at
> all with abrasion.
>
> ...Henry SolarFlex 287 Brilliant White Roof Coating (used to reflect
> the sun's rays to help keep our houses cooler in the desert
> southwest).....This was a product I was wondering about but not brave
> enough to try without recommendation. It is described, on the label,
> as an...."...elastomeric, water-based acrylic latex coating." This
> dried more slowly than all the other materials. It is low cost at $12
> per gallon. Is thin and rubbery, and I was concerned at first that it
> would only peel off in little pieces, but once I got hold of an edge, it
> peeled off in one sheet. I also purchased this at Home Depot (a huge
> do-it-yourself building supplies store in the USA).
>
> I will keep the Plasti-Dip and the Henry Solar Flex on Tiles for a
> couple of weeks and then test to see if they still peel off as easily as
> my initial test. I will report back to everyone if they do not.
>
> Thank you, everyone who responded with your suggestion, for creating my
> shopping list yesterday. You've helped me solve a problem.
> ...now, if I could find a good solution that is clear.... :-)
>
> Joanne in Tucson
> --
> Joanne L. Van Bezooyen
> 520-749-1685
> Art Gecko Designs
> http://www.arteriordesigns.com/noname.html
> voice & fax: 520 760-1584
> 11220 East Via Madre
> Tucson, Arizona 85749 USA
>
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Joanne L. Van Bezooyen on fri 20 apr 01
I had so many suggestions that I spent hours yesterday trying to find as
many of the products recommended as possible. One I couldn't find was
the "latex base" used in formulating paints. I went to a paint
manufacturer in Tucson and they use an acrylic resin and nothing that
would help me coat my tiles.
Results:
...Rubber Cement....It rubbed off too easily.
...Liquid Latex (used by watercolor painters for masking)...This also
rubbed off too easily. The grouting or stucco or plaster applications
around my tiles would remove these coatings too quickly.
...Insta Mold....mixed with water, it is used to create flexible molds.
This shrank and came loose from the tiles.
Winners:
...Plasti Dip...from Home Depot, Tool department. "Multi-purpose rubber
coating". One use is to dip tool handles into it for better grips. This
brushed on easily and quickly, dried the fastest. Once I got hold of an
edge, it peeled off easily in one thin piece. It did not rub loose at
all with abrasion.
...Henry SolarFlex 287 Brilliant White Roof Coating (used to reflect
the sun's rays to help keep our houses cooler in the desert
southwest).....This was a product I was wondering about but not brave
enough to try without recommendation. It is described, on the label,
as an...."...elastomeric, water-based acrylic latex coating." This
dried more slowly than all the other materials. It is low cost at $12
per gallon. Is thin and rubbery, and I was concerned at first that it
would only peel off in little pieces, but once I got hold of an edge, it
peeled off in one sheet. I also purchased this at Home Depot (a huge
do-it-yourself building supplies store in the USA).
I will keep the Plasti-Dip and the Henry Solar Flex on Tiles for a
couple of weeks and then test to see if they still peel off as easily as
my initial test. I will report back to everyone if they do not.
Thank you, everyone who responded with your suggestion, for creating my
shopping list yesterday. You've helped me solve a problem.
...now, if I could find a good solution that is clear.... :-)
Joanne in Tucson
--
Joanne L. Van Bezooyen
520-749-1685
Art Gecko Designs
http://www.arteriordesigns.com/noname.html
voice & fax: 520 760-1584
11220 East Via Madre
Tucson, Arizona 85749 USA
Joanne L. Van Bezooyen on fri 20 apr 01
...and so I've just found "Plasti Dip" comes in clear, and I've ordered it from the
mfg. as it was not available locally.
I am a happy clay artist! :-)
Joanne
"Joanne L. Van Bezooyen" wrote:
> I had so many suggestions that I spent hours yesterday trying to find as
> many of the products recommended as possible. One I couldn't find was
> the "latex base" used in formulating paints. I went to a paint
> manufacturer in Tucson and they use an acrylic resin and nothing that
> would help me coat my tiles.
>
> Results:
> ...Rubber Cement....It rubbed off too easily.
> ...Liquid Latex (used by watercolor painters for masking)...This also
> rubbed off too easily. The grouting or stucco or plaster applications
> around my tiles would remove these coatings too quickly.
> ...Insta Mold....mixed with water, it is used to create flexible molds.
> This shrank and came loose from the tiles.
>
> Winners:
> ...Plasti Dip...from Home Depot, Tool department. "Multi-purpose rubber
> coating". One use is to dip tool handles into it for better grips. This
> brushed on easily and quickly, dried the fastest. Once I got hold of an
> edge, it peeled off easily in one thin piece. It did not rub loose at
> all with abrasion.
>
> ...Henry SolarFlex 287 Brilliant White Roof Coating (used to reflect
> the sun's rays to help keep our houses cooler in the desert
> southwest).....This was a product I was wondering about but not brave
> enough to try without recommendation. It is described, on the label,
> as an...."...elastomeric, water-based acrylic latex coating." This
> dried more slowly than all the other materials. It is low cost at $12
> per gallon. Is thin and rubbery, and I was concerned at first that it
> would only peel off in little pieces, but once I got hold of an edge, it
> peeled off in one sheet. I also purchased this at Home Depot (a huge
> do-it-yourself building supplies store in the USA).
>
> I will keep the Plasti-Dip and the Henry Solar Flex on Tiles for a
> couple of weeks and then test to see if they still peel off as easily as
> my initial test. I will report back to everyone if they do not.
>
> Thank you, everyone who responded with your suggestion, for creating my
> shopping list yesterday. You've helped me solve a problem.
> ...now, if I could find a good solution that is clear.... :-)
>
> Joanne in Tucson
> --
> Joanne L. Van Bezooyen
> 520-749-1685
> Art Gecko Designs
> http://www.arteriordesigns.com/noname.html
> voice & fax: 520 760-1584
> 11220 East Via Madre
> Tucson, Arizona 85749 USA
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at melpots@pclink.com.
>
--
Joanne L. Van Bezooyen
520-749-1685
Art Gecko Designs
http://www.arteriordesigns.com/noname.html
voice & fax: 520 760-1584
11220 East Via Madre
Tucson, Arizona 85749 USA
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