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why is it called throwing?

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Tommy Humphries on thu 3 may 01


The way it has been explained to me ( there are several other explanation=
s
around) is that the original word was an 'old English" word "thrae" meani=
ng
to twist or turn. This expanded into thrawn meaning twisted...finally in=
to
throw. The terms throw and turn mean exactly the same when referring to
making pottery by hand on the wheel.

Tommy


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynne Berman"
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 5:46 PM
Subject: Why is it called throwing?


> Philadelphia held a business expo today and the arts organizations were
also
> represented. The Clay Studio set up a wheel and I had the pleasure of
> throwing for the crowd. Then someone asked me why it was called throwin=
g.
> None of us knew. Hope someone out there knows the answer.
>
> Lynne Berman in downtown Philadelphia
>
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Bacia Edelman on thu 3 may 01


Lynne: This is no expert speaking. I assumed the term arose
=66rom the way some potters slam a ball of clay onto the wheelhead
or bat. When I was a kid, I used to watch a Sicilian potter
where a relative worked, and he really slammed (threw) the clay down
before centering. Even moderately large amounts.
I would say the southeastern term of "turning" is closer to what
we do. Turning and burning?
Regards, Bacia

At 06:46 PM 05/03/2001 EDT, you wrote:
>Philadelphia held a business expo today and the arts organizations were =
also
>represented. The Clay Studio set up a wheel and I had the pleasure of
>throwing for the crowd. Then someone asked me why it was called throwing=
=2E
>None of us knew. Hope someone out there knows the answer.
>
>Lynne Berman in downtown Philadelphia
>
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Lynne Berman on thu 3 may 01


Philadelphia held a business expo today and the arts organizations were a=
lso
represented. The Clay Studio set up a wheel and I had the pleasure of
throwing for the crowd. Then someone asked me why it was called throwing.
None of us knew. Hope someone out there knows the answer.

Lynne Berman in downtown Philadelphia

Sammy Shuford on fri 4 may 01


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Davis"
To:
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Why is it called throwing?


> Check out: http://www.studiopotter.org/
>
> Click on Articles, then scroll down to Miscellaneous and then click on =
Why
On Earth
> Do They Call It Throwing?
>
> This is an article by Dennis Krueger which appeared in Studio Potter Vo=
l
11, No. 1
> (December 1982).
>
> It is copyrighted material or I would have cut and pasted in here.
>
> Dennis in Warrenton, VA
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Jim Shanks on fri 4 may 01


Lyn,
I seem to remember something about the term refering to the first action =
=3D
of "throwing" the lump of clay onto the centre of a constantly spinning =3D
wheel.

However I have also read that it refers to the fact that the centrifigal =
=3D
force of the wheel is constantly "throwing" the clay outwards and the ar=
t =3D
of the potter or thrower is to control this movement of the clay to creat=
e =3D
the form.

Its probably the latter.
Regards,
Jim=3D20

Matt MacIntire on fri 4 may 01


I am no linguist, but looking at http://www.m-w.com I find that the
etymology or the word throwing seems consistent with its present use to m=
ean
shaping on a potters wheel. Throwing in the middle ages evidently had mo=
re
to do with twisting than propelling through the air like a baseball.

throw

Etymology: Middle English thrawen, throwen to cause to twist, throw, from
Old English thrAwan to cause to twist or turn; akin to Old High German dr=
Aen
to turn, Latin terere to rub, Greek tribein to rub, tetrainein to bore,
pierce
Date: 14th century


5 : to form or shape on a potter's wheel

Dennis Davis on fri 4 may 01


Check out: http://www.studiopotter.org/

Click on Articles, then scroll down to Miscellaneous and then click on Wh=
y On Earth
Do They Call It Throwing?

This is an article by Dennis Krueger which appeared in Studio Potter Vol =
11, No. 1
(December 1982).

It is copyrighted material or I would have cut and pasted in here.

Dennis in Warrenton, VA

Cindy Strnad on fri 4 may 01


Hi, Lynne.

It's my understanding that "throw" and "turn" both come from the same
ancient root word, which referred to the spin one puts on a round object
when one throws it.

Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
earthenv@gwtc.net
http://www.earthenvesselssd.com

wrives@MINDSPRING.COM on fri 4 may 01


=46rom Webster=92s Collegiate Dictionary, 6th Edition:

Under =93throw=94

ME (Middle English) thrawen, throwen =96 to cause to twist
OE (Old English) thrawan =96 to cause to twist or turn

Wayne Rives
Peachtree City, GA

Philip Poburka on fri 4 may 01


Whether or not represented in Webster's or other...

For hundreds of years, also is the denotation for 'Throw' as some proscri=
bed
'distance', which may or may not immediately appear defferential to
something having 'twist'.


The distance to which a 'Vice' may open is the 'Throw'.
The width I think of a 'Loom'...has been so called...?
The distance, on a Lathe, from the axial 'Center' of it's Head and
Tail-stocks, to the 'ways' upon which they sit...is the 'Throw'.

The distance an 'arm', or lever (as say on an old fashioned kitchen 'Pump=
'
for water, or a Yard Pump, for the 'Pump-Handle') the distance it may, (o=
r
in some other mechanism) move...is it's (the) 'Throw'.

The Crank-shaft of some mechanism is spoken of as having a 'Throw', and
'Throws',which refer to the distance between the center of the rotation, =
and
the centers of the eccentrics...or the eccentrics themeselves.

The deapth to which some Drilling Machine would drill, being spoken of as
the 'Throw' of that machine.

In other words, a proscribed mechanical limitation, distance, or perhaps =
the
distance described by the motion...or the motion itself...or allusions to
them.

Not to be confused with 'Throes'...at least not usually...if one is
circumspect.

There are other 'Throws'...but I cannot remember just now.
Ummm...the 'Throw' of a light Beam...as for Search-lights, and Theatre
Lights (Spot-Lights)...or the area covered BY the 'spot' at a given
distance...or the distance they will go somehow...

Phil


> From Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 6th Edition:
>
> Under "throw"
>
> ME (Middle English) thrawen, throwen - to cause to twist
> OE (Old English) thrawan - to cause to twist or turn
>
> Wayne Rives
> Peachtree City, GA
>
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