Bill Aycock on tue 8 may 01
The annual bamboo shoot-up is underway on Persimmon Hill. We have a small
grove of the kind refered to as "Timber" Bamboo. We got the start from a
large grower, who apologized that all he had to send were from very young
plants. Since each grove is really one plant, the age of the start root
determines the size. The first shoots were only about a half inch.
This year, the largest are about 3 inches, and the height we dont know yet,
but they look impressive. The largest, last year, were over 30 ft.The grove
is about 60 ft by 40 ft, and is really peaceful, up inside.
I bring this to the list, because, as some know well, Bamboo makes great
clayworking tools. It can be sharpened, does not tend to scratch things
like bats and wheel heads, and is minimally affected by water. I often left
my foot-trimming tool in the water bowl, beside the wheel. In addition, it
is easy to shape. I used one tool for many years, to trim the clay where
the piece meets the wheel. I cleaned this area with a small undercut to
make the cut-off wire slip in easy, and stay low to the head. On cups,
this was the only foot-trim I did.
I now have not only a lifetime supply, I have an armys worth.
Bill- doing spring clering and cleanup, on Persimmon Hill
Restore Mt. Rushmore !
(Think about it)
CINDI ANDERSON on wed 9 may 01
Is this a clumping kind of bamboo? Just want to warn any other potters that some
bamboo can be very invasive. We had some at our old house, and it would start
popping up 30 or 50 feet away. It travels underground then pops up wherever it
wants. But I understand there are clumping kinds that don't. Just make sure you
know what you're getting yourself into.
Cindi
Fremont, CA
Bill Aycock wrote:
> The annual bamboo shoot-up is underway on Persimmon Hill. We have a small
> grove of the kind refered to as "Timber" Bamboo. We got the start from a
> large grower, who apologized that all he had to send were from very young
> plants. Since each grove is really one plant, the age of the start root
> determines the size. The first shoots were only about a half inch.
>
Erin And Rod on wed 9 may 01
We had a neighbor here in Vancouver who planted Bamboo in his back yard.
Soon both of his neighbors also had bamboo also. After much arguing and
bickering over it he dug ( I think 2 feet down ) a trench and installed thin
steel bottomless boxes and replanted his bamboo. It never made it to the
neighbors yards again.
Rod
----- Original Message -----
From: "CINDI ANDERSON"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: Bamboo grove
> Is this a clumping kind of bamboo? Just want to warn any other potters
that some
> bamboo can be very invasive. We had some at our old house, and it would
start
> popping up 30 or 50 feet away. It travels underground then pops up
wherever it
> wants. But I understand there are clumping kinds that don't. Just make
sure you
> know what you're getting yourself into.
>
> Cindi
> Fremont, CA
>
> Bill Aycock wrote:
>
> > The annual bamboo shoot-up is underway on Persimmon Hill. We have a
small
> > grove of the kind refered to as "Timber" Bamboo. We got the start from a
> > large grower, who apologized that all he had to send were from very
young
> > plants. Since each grove is really one plant, the age of the start root
> > determines the size. The first shoots were only about a half inch.
> >
>
>
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L. P. Skeen on wed 9 may 01
re: Timber bamboo
>From time to time on this list folks have mentioned that they had bamboo
growing in their yards, etc. I read in an article about some
humongous-growing bamboos, like 70 feet tall, but of course they dinna
mention a source.
I have need of some of this as a screen between "us" and "them" - the
neighbors. Not that I give a toot, but the neighbor's wife would prefer the
screen. Anyway, if you have any of these humongous growing bamboos and can
send me a cutting, I'd be glad to pay the postage or whatever to get it
here. I live in NC.
TIA
Lisa
Eric Suchman on wed 9 may 01
>From: Bill Aycock
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Bamboo grove
>Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:29:03 -0500
>
>The annual bamboo shoot-up is underway on Persimmon Hill. We have a small
>grove of the kind refered to as "Timber" Bamboo. We got the start from a
>large grower, who apologized that all he had to send were from very young
>plants. Since each grove is really one plant, the age of the start root
>determines the size. The first shoots were only about a half inch.
>
>This year, the largest are about 3 inches, and the height we dont know yet,
>but they look impressive. The largest, last year, were over 30 ft.The grove
>is about 60 ft by 40 ft, and is really peaceful, up inside.
>
>I bring this to the list, because, as some know well, Bamboo makes great
>clayworking tools. It can be sharpened, does not tend to scratch things
>like bats and wheel heads, and is minimally affected by water. I often left
>my foot-trimming tool in the water bowl, beside the wheel. In addition, it
>is easy to shape. I used one tool for many years, to trim the clay where
>the piece meets the wheel. I cleaned this area with a small undercut to
>make the cut-off wire slip in easy, and stay low to the head. On cups,
>this was the only foot-trim I did.
>
>I now have not only a lifetime supply, I have an armys worth.
>
>Bill- doing spring clering and cleanup, on Persimmon Hill
>
> Restore Mt. Rushmore !
>(Think about it)
>
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When the time comes that you want to dry full culms without splitting,
either let them dry completely while standing before cutting or after
cutting stand them in a bucket of water and let them dry very sowly. In
China they are even wrapped in cloth and wet down every day to prevent
splitting.
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Rick Hugel on thu 10 may 01
Good Grief! I wouldn't recommend that kind of "screen". You have no idea
how pernicious bamboo can be! My studio is in the middle of a bamboo grove
and it is a constant fight to keep floorboards, walkways, and mosquitos
under control. Not complaining because the ambience is breathtakingly
marvelous and my friends and neighbors always look forward to the Spring
when they can come over and dig up the shoots which makes me VERY HAPPY!
Rick
>re: Timber bamboo
>
>>From time to time on this list folks have mentioned that they had bamboo
>growing in their yards, etc. I read in an article about some
>humongous-growing bamboos, like 70 feet tall, but of course they dinna
>mention a source.
>
>
>I have need of some of this as a screen between "us" and "them" - the
>neighbors. Not that I give a toot, but the neighbor's wife would prefer the
>screen. Anyway, if you have any of these humongous growing bamboos and can
>send me a cutting, I'd be glad to pay the postage or whatever to get it
>here. I live in NC.
>
>TIA
>Lisa
>
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Logan Oplinger on thu 10 may 01
Joseph Herbert,
No, after the wax resist (or slip) they apply grog, vermiculite, and ceramic fiber; then run you through a slab roller! &:>)
Logan Oplinger
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...
> By then your neighbors will have banded together, burned the grove and your
> house, and gotten that rail, tar, and feathers ready. Perhaps they dip
> potters in wax resist and apply feathers. anyway, be careful.
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John Jensen on thu 10 may 01
I put in two clumps of a running type bamboo maybe six years ago. By now
it is fully established and has spread maybe twenty feet in some directions.
The shoots come up through the walls of my shop, then down through the
ceiling. The shoots sometimes find a way to come up through the a crack or
hole in the concrete floor of my shop. I cut them and knock them over as
soon as they come up because at that time they are tender and easy to cut.
Somewhat tasty to eat at that point too, though not really yummy to my
taste. In spite of all the hassles, I like having it so far. It creates an
impenetrable barrier between my property and that of my neighbor (who hates
it because it reminds him of Viet Nam). I put it in before my neighbor
bought or built, so at least I have that on my side. It like to study the
bamboo forms and practice drawing it sometimes. Occasionally I'll look out
my shop window and see a bird in the bamboo. If I had to do it all over
again, I think I would have created underground restraints first, or maybe
just skipped the whole thing. Bamboo reminds me of Hawaii.
John Jensen mudbug@toad.net.
Eric Suchman on thu 10 may 01
>From: "L. P. Skeen"
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: Bamboo grove
>Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 04:26:51 -0400
>
>re: Timber bamboo
>
>From time to time on this list folks have mentioned that they had bamboo
>growing in their yards, etc. I read in an article about some
>humongous-growing bamboos, like 70 feet tall, but of course they dinna
>mention a source.
>
>
>I have need of some of this as a screen between "us" and "them" - the
>neighbors. Not that I give a toot, but the neighbor's wife would prefer
>the
>screen. Anyway, if you have any of these humongous growing bamboos and can
>send me a cutting, I'd be glad to pay the postage or whatever to get it
>here. I live in NC.
>
>TIA
>Lisa
>
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Try checking out or There are quite a number
of bamboo collectors out there. Quite a number of afficionadoes. There is
truly both clumping and running bamboos. The clumping ones generally have
aa cylindrical culm (stem) where the running ones tend to have a groove on
one side beginning at the base of the leaf cluster. I'm thinking that what
you may want is Timber bamboo, Bambusa oldhamii. I don't know what it's
cold hardiness is, it is however a clumping variety. This is one that will
make a nice environment and provide you with tool making wood. Golden and
Black are two running varieties that are pretty to behold, travel where you
generally are not prepared for , and make great handles and other ware
accessories. All in all they are great plants that are easy to grow and are
culturally mis-understood.
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L. P. Skeen on thu 10 may 01
That's the type of thing you have to do for peppermint, unless you just LIKE
it taking over.
> We had a neighbor here in Vancouver who planted Bamboo in his back yard.
> Soon both of his neighbors also had bamboo also. After much arguing and
> bickering over it he dug ( I think 2 feet down ) a trench and installed
thin
> steel bottomless boxes and replanted his bamboo. It never made it to the
> neighbors yards again.
L. P. Skeen on thu 10 may 01
We live at the back of 9+ acres. There's plenty of room for the bamboo
where I want to put it. :)
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Hugel
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: Bamboo grove
> Good Grief! I wouldn't recommend that kind of "screen". You have no idea
> how pernicious bamboo can be! My studio is in the middle of a bamboo
grove
> and it is a constant fight to keep floorboards, walkways, and mosquitos
> under control. Not complaining because the ambience is breathtakingly
> marvelous and my friends and neighbors always look forward to the Spring
> when they can come over and dig up the shoots which makes me VERY HAPPY!
> Rick
>
> >re: Timber bamboo
> >
> >>From time to time on this list folks have mentioned that they had bamboo
> >growing in their yards, etc. I read in an article about some
> >humongous-growing bamboos, like 70 feet tall, but of course they dinna
> >mention a source.
> >
> >
> >I have need of some of this as a screen between "us" and "them" - the
> >neighbors. Not that I give a toot, but the neighbor's wife would prefer
the
> >screen. Anyway, if you have any of these humongous growing bamboos and
can
> >send me a cutting, I'd be glad to pay the postage or whatever to get it
> >here. I live in NC.
> >
> >TIA
> >Lisa
> >
>
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>
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Karen Sullivan on thu 10 may 01
Look in the archieves...I listed a number of sites of
bamboo nurseries...one that I was impressed with was
in Northern California...but there are lots of listings...
the bamboo society..
In Encinitas, California there is Quail Gardens that has
several varieties of bamboo including one called
gigantia which is a timber variety with stalks the
diameter of a 5 gallon bucket...
generally the bamboo follows the water...it's a grass...
no control of water in the Pacific Northwest...but in
So. Calif. water is scarce unless desired...
And I am not at all obsessed with the stuff.....
bamboo...karen
L. P. Skeen on thu 10 may 01
> Try checking out or There are quite a
number
> of bamboo collectors out there. Quite a number of afficionadoes
Hey thanks!
L
L. P. Skeen on thu 10 may 01
> Try checking out or There are quite a
number
> of bamboo collectors out there
Oops Eric,
Neither of these links has anything to do with bamboo; they are both
businesses. ;)
L
L. P. Skeen on thu 10 may 01
Here is the correct URL for American Bamboo Society:
http://www.halcyon.com/abs
And for you Europeans out there, the European Bamboo Society:
http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/users/djh/ebs=20
L. P. Skeen www.living-tree.net
Living Tree Pottery & Handmade Soaps, Summerfield, NC
Info about the SESoapers conference: =
http://sasoapmakers.homestead.com/SASconference.html
"Just because nobody understands you does NOT mean that you are an =
artist."
Joseph Herbert on thu 10 may 01
Anyone thinking of planting bamboo on their property should investigate the
invasive properties of these plants. They aren't Kudzu but it may be
difficult to differentiate between the effects. Bill's 60 x 40 grove would
be a significant part of a city lot. Most species of bamboo are NOT
self-limiting except for that time every 100 years when they bloom and die.
By then your neighbors will have banded together, burned the grove and your
house, and gotten that rail, tar, and feathers ready. Perhaps they dip
potters in wax resist and apply feathers. anyway, be careful.
Joseph Herbert
Ann Sciba on fri 11 may 01
In south Texas I grew up calling it a cane patch. We have one in our back yard that came with our house, an older home built in 1927, still in South Texas. The cane, or maybe it's really bamboo, has the advantage of making the back yard quite private, but it does try very hard to spread in all directions. I cut it back radically every two years, and trim it up a lot several times a year. But I would not cut it down because it makes our yard seem so nice and private and hides my kiln and stack. We are in a small town only about 3 blocks from the town square, so i would say we are almost downtown. I bless my cane patch, but do wish it were not quite so much work. Ann Sciba
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Joseph Herbert
Reply-To: joseph.herbert@att.net
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 08:37:36 -0500
>Anyone thinking of planting bamboo on their property should investigate the
>invasive properties of these plants. They aren't Kudzu but it may be
>difficult to differentiate between the effects. Bill's 60 x 40 grove would
>be a significant part of a city lot. Most species of bamboo are NOT
>self-limiting except for that time every 100 years when they bloom and die.
>By then your neighbors will have banded together, burned the grove and your
>house, and gotten that rail, tar, and feathers ready. Perhaps they dip
>potters in wax resist and apply feathers. anyway, be careful.
>
>Joseph Herbert
>
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Eric Suchman on fri 11 may 01
>From: "L. P. Skeen"
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: Bamboo grove
>Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:34:03 -0400
>
>Here is the correct URL for American Bamboo Society:
> http://www.halcyon.com/abs
>
>And for you Europeans out there, the European Bamboo Society:
>http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/users/djh/ebs
>
>
>L. P. Skeen www.living-tree.net
>Living Tree Pottery & Handmade Soaps, Summerfield, NC
>Info about the SESoapers conference:
>http://sasoapmakers.homestead.com/SASconference.html
>"Just because nobody understands you does NOT mean that you are an artist."
>
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Hey L
curiously I can still bring it up using or
-Eric
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Chris Clarke on fri 11 may 01
Hi,
Bamboo comes in two kinds, running and clumping. When you are picking
it out grab a cane and run your hand around it. If it's smooth all the way
around it's a clumper. If it has a ridge running vertically up the length
of the shoot it's a runner. Don't get me wrong, if you have bunches of
original plants, they can make a ten foot circle, and ten foot circles can
over take a yard pretty fast. I have timber bamboo, budda's belly and
mexican weeping (lovely if you can find it), all clumpers. I would suggest
putting runners in a big old pot. I love my bamboo, but I live in the
country (kind of) with lots of space. chris
temecula, california
chris@ccpots.com
www.ccpots.com
----- Original Message -----
From: CINDI ANDERSON
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: Bamboo grove
> Is this a clumping kind of bamboo? Just want to warn any other potters
that some
> bamboo can be very invasive. We had some at our old house, and it would
start
> popping up 30 or 50 feet away. It travels underground then pops up
wherever it
> wants. But I understand there are clumping kinds that don't. Just make
sure you
> know what you're getting yourself into.
>
> Cindi
> Fremont, CA
>
> Bill Aycock wrote:
>
> > The annual bamboo shoot-up is underway on Persimmon Hill. We have a
small
> > grove of the kind refered to as "Timber" Bamboo. We got the start from a
> > large grower, who apologized that all he had to send were from very
young
> > plants. Since each grove is really one plant, the age of the start root
> > determines the size. The first shoots were only about a half inch.
> >
>
>
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Fredrick Paget on fri 11 may 01
Bamboo is a sucker for Roundup (glyophosphate).
It is a sort of grass relative and a simple application of this herbicide
will kill it roots and all. If you don't mind using the stuff.
FredPaget
>From Fred Paget, Marin County, California, USA
Janet Kaiser on sat 12 may 01
Just remember you are introducing a real threat to your
native habitat and all the flora and fauna which live
there now and in the future. If bamboo is not a native
to your region, you should take measures to prevent it
spreading.
Here in North Wales, the non-native Himalayan
Rhododendron may look extremely pretty (especially in
May-June when it is in full bloom) BUT it is really a
"pernicious weed", which exterminates other local flora
and fauna... It takes **10 years minimum** for even the
soil to recover from Rhododendron presence, once it has
been exterminated. Rhododendron was only introduced
into the gardens of the upper classes a hundred or so
year ago, and yet now it covers thousand of acres!!!
Laurel are another absolute menace. Japanese Knotweed
is also so pernicious and aggressive, it has become a
threat to huge areas of countryside in the UK,
especially where people originally fly dumped garden
waste... Whole rivers have been infested!!!
GO to other countries and you will find all sorts of
plants which were introduced into the landscape without
any thought to the future. Please do not introduce
plants which are know to be invasive without due
precautions which will still be in place (and
functioning) many years after your own death!
Thank you!
Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art . Capel Celfyddyd
HOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL POTTERS' PATH
Criccieth LL52 0EA, GB-Wales Tel: (01766) 523570
E-mail: postbox@the-coa.org.uk
WEBSITE: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
----- Original Message -----
> I put in two clumps of a running type bamboo maybe
six years ago. By now
> it is fully established and has spread maybe twenty
feet in some directions.
> The shoots come up through the walls of my shop, then
down through the
> ceiling. The shoots sometimes find a way to come up
through the a crack or
> hole in the concrete floor of my shop. I cut them and
knock them over as
> soon as they come up because at that time they are
tender and easy to cut.
> Somewhat tasty to eat at that point too, though not
really yummy to my
> taste. In spite of all the hassles, I like having it
so far. It creates an
> impenetrable barrier between my property and that of
my neighbor (who hates
> it because it reminds him of Viet Nam). I put it in
before my neighbor
> bought or built, so at least I have that on my side.
It like to study the
> bamboo forms and practice drawing it sometimes.
Occasionally I'll look out
> my shop window and see a bird in the bamboo. If I
had to do it all over
> again, I think I would have created underground
restraints first, or maybe
> just skipped the whole thing. Bamboo reminds me of
Hawaii.
>
> John Jensen mudbug@toad.net.
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