Jennifer Buckner on fri 18 may 01
Artimator said: "....Sure glass production requires skill and
experience....but it can be done by anyone who has been hired and
trained...and it can be repeated ad infintum.....crap...."
Comments like this only serve to expose your total lack of understanding
of glass and what is required to produce a glass work of art. Chihuly may
not be to your taste, and no, he hasn't produced anything by himself in
years, (you try working around a gather of molten glass without binocular
vision ), but there are any number of glass artists who have invested as
many years in the development of their art and skill as any potter you care
to name, and who should be accorded the same respect.
Jennifer Buckner
Jennifer G. Buckner jbuckner@together.net
Wood Jeanne on sat 19 may 01
When I was teaching art in the Children's Home for
at-risk Youth, I was amazed by how many of the kids
with no art background told me they blew glass. This
was until further questioning when they all admitted
the glass they blew was for bongs.
Possibly this will ultimately bring some to real
artistic self-expression??? I hope so.
Regards,
Jeanne W.
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Philip Poburka on sat 19 may 01
> Artimator said: "....Sure glass production requires skill and
>experience....but it can be done by anyone who has been hired and
>trained...and it can be repeated ad infintum.....crap...."
Well...I get the feeling that Mr. Rush maybe enjoys the rivalries which are
incident - if one likes them - to having learned ones way in a discipline,
and a provocation such as this is a nice lure.
I aspire to nibble on the bait, whilst not getting the hook clean through my
lip!
But then too, it IS fun just to 'bite' and GO!
Get that reel a spinnin'!
But meanwhile, overall, I like the spunk we have here, and the pot gets
stirred now and then, with some zeal.
Or the old 'Army-Navy' football games..."Yea! Those bums just got lucky!
Thats all...."
No matter who won...
Anyway...
Fond greetings artimater, and greetings All!
Philip
Las Vegas...
Carolsan on sun 20 may 01
> Either that Philip, or, the Great Arti sips one too many sips of wine from
> that red & white pottery vessel of his before posting to this list?
> Dusty
Hummm. Or------perhaps some clayarters feel entitled to hold opinions
that may be construed as ludricous, or at the very least conflicting to the
reasoning of others. Recently a credible clayarter aggressively challenged
my point-of-view via several private e-mails on a topic I hold near and
dear. There was no way I would ever change my mind and requested the party
cease the effort, whereupon, I was censured on clayart for my lack of
comprehension. I suppose it is a form of control, or is it an obsession to
believe that you alone possess the only possible truth. Such behavior
hobbles an open, honest forum that serves to enlighten the dilettantes as
well as enhance the expertise of the sage. As the drowning spider said
after his poisonous sting killed the duck transporting him across the river,
"It's just my nature!"
Carolsan
Chris Clarke on sun 20 may 01
> Artimator said: "....Sure glass production requires skill and
>experience....but it can be done by anyone who has been hired and
>trained...and it can be repeated ad infintum.....crap...."
I spent much of my time in the glass studio at Bowling Green State =
with a fellow named Mark Wagar, luckily my husband is not a jealous man. =
I never actually took glass as a class, could never fit it in. But =
Mark taught me how and I assisted him, I believe he called me the punny =
girl. =20
Although I was there spinning and helping, it was all him. His work =
was amazing, and I doubt, Rush, that you could touch his skill. Your =
lack of respect for glass is the same disrespect potters feel from =
people who do not understand. People who act like pottery is a craft =
like needlepoint, people who feel they can go to Kmart and pick up =
pieces just as nice as ours. =20
You gripe about Chihuly, but I hear jealousy, plain and simple. Go =
ahead and laugh and write one of your snide remarks with HEHEHE all =
through it but I think most see just how green you are. Yes Chihuly =
doesn't work physically with the glass as much, but I see a man so =
driven that he couldn't let go of something he could no longer do. I =
see someone who would have blown glass till the day he died had he not =
been unfortunate enough to loose his eye. I think we can all take a =
lesson in perseverance from him.=20
I still take pottery over glass, that's why I have the studio I =
have. But I have a great deal of respect for glass blowers, painters, =
woodcarvers, quilters, mothers, teachers and everyone else who has, no =
matter what, found a way to do what they dreamed. =20
chris, missing Mark and the glass shop back in BG
temecula, california
chris@ccpots.com
www.ccpots.com
res0avzb on sun 20 may 01
Either that Philip, or, the Great Arti sips one too many sips of wine from
that red & white pottery vessel of his before posting to this list?
Dusty
dusty.johnson@verizon.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Poburka"
To:
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: glass vs. pottery
> > Artimator said: "....Sure glass production requires skill and
> >experience....but it can be done by anyone who has been hired and
> >trained...and it can be repeated ad infintum.....crap...."
>
> Well...I get the feeling that Mr. Rush maybe enjoys the rivalries which
are
> incident - if one likes them - to having learned ones way in a
discipline,
> and a provocation such as this is a nice lure.
>
> I aspire to nibble on the bait, whilst not getting the hook clean through
my
> lip!
>
> But then too, it IS fun just to 'bite' and GO!
> Get that reel a spinnin'!
>
> But meanwhile, overall, I like the spunk we have here, and the pot gets
> stirred now and then, with some zeal.
>
> Or the old 'Army-Navy' football games..."Yea! Those bums just got lucky!
> Thats all...."
> No matter who won...
>
> Anyway...
>
> Fond greetings artimater, and greetings All!
>
> Philip
> Las Vegas...
>
>
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