L. P. Skeen on wed 16 may 01
Folks,
Yesterday, part of this message appeared here, and I questioned what it was
about. This is the reply I got from Mary, but still no contact info for
"Richard".
Lisa,
It appears only the last part of this request was sent to clayart. Here is
the request I received from Richard. Thanks for your interest,
Best regards,
Mary
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MARY
I AM AN ARCHAEOLOGIST FOR THE WILSON POTTERY FOUNDATION. I AM IN THE
PROCESS OF RESTORING THE THIRD WILSON SITE INTO A WORKING POTTERY AS IT WAS
IN THE LATE 1800'S UP TO 1903. MY PROBLEM IS KNOWING WHAT A KICK WHEEL, IN
THOSE DAYS, LOOKED LIKE IN ENOUGH DETAIL TO BE ABLE TO RECREATE ONE. IS IT
POSSIBLE TO STEER ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO INFORMATION OR PEOPLE THAT
MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP ME.
SINCERELY,
RICHARD KINZ
"KEEPER OF THE KILNS"
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vince pitelka on wed 16 may 01
Richard Kinz's email address is:
rokinz@axs4u.net
I suggested he contact the library at Alfred, or find old copies of Keramos,
a studio ceramics magazine published out of Syracuse NY just after the
beginning of the 20th century. Hopefully some of you will have more
suggestions.
- Vince
> Folks,
> Yesterday, part of this message appeared here, and I questioned what it
was
> about. This is the reply I got from Mary, but still no contact info for
> "Richard".
> I AM AN ARCHAEOLOGIST FOR THE WILSON POTTERY FOUNDATION. I AM IN THE
> PROCESS OF RESTORING THE THIRD WILSON SITE INTO A WORKING POTTERY AS IT
WAS
> IN THE LATE 1800'S UP TO 1903. MY PROBLEM IS KNOWING WHAT A KICK WHEEL,
IN
> THOSE DAYS, LOOKED LIKE IN ENOUGH DETAIL TO BE ABLE TO RECREATE ONE. IS
IT
> POSSIBLE TO STEER ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO INFORMATION OR PEOPLE THAT
> MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP ME.
>
> SINCERELY,
>
> RICHARD KINZ
> "KEEPER OF THE KILNS"
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
Tommy Humphries on wed 16 may 01
For a start two great reference books about pottery in the 1800's would be
"raised in clay" by Nancy Sweezy, by Smithsonian books 1984
ISBN0-87474-859-3 And the Foxfire Book #8 doubleday/anchor 1984 ISBN
0-385-17741-0.
These books outline the lives and livings of many of the traditional folk
potters from the 1800's up to the mid 1980's. Unfortunately many of the
potters mentioned in the books are no longer with us...names like Gordy,
Meaders, and Brown. Many of their offspring and relatives are still busy
turning out traditional ware in the southern usa. The equipment used by
them was mostly all handbuilt, usually by an ancestor several generations
back. You will find truck and tractor parts bolted together with old
household "junk" to make wheels, pugmills, mixers etc. These books are a
"must read" for any potter wanting to get the most from their craft.
Tommy Humphries
----- Original Message -----
From: "L. P. Skeen"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 3:52 AM
Subject: What did a kickwheel look like in 1800's?
> Folks,
> Yesterday, part of this message appeared here, and I questioned what it
was
> about. This is the reply I got from Mary, but still no contact info for
> "Richard".
>
>
> Lisa,
> It appears only the last part of this request was sent to clayart. Here is
> the request I received from Richard. Thanks for your interest,
> Best regards,
> Mary
>
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> ********************************
>
> MARY
>
> I AM AN ARCHAEOLOGIST FOR THE WILSON POTTERY FOUNDATION. I AM IN THE
> PROCESS OF RESTORING THE THIRD WILSON SITE INTO A WORKING POTTERY AS IT
WAS
> IN THE LATE 1800'S UP TO 1903. MY PROBLEM IS KNOWING WHAT A KICK WHEEL,
IN
> THOSE DAYS, LOOKED LIKE IN ENOUGH DETAIL TO BE ABLE TO RECREATE ONE. IS
IT
> POSSIBLE TO STEER ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO INFORMATION OR PEOPLE THAT
> MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP ME.
>
> SINCERELY,
>
> RICHARD KINZ
> "KEEPER OF THE KILNS"
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>
>
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Jim Bozeman on wed 16 may 01
There is a diagram and a photo of a treadle-wheel in "Crossroads of
Clay"-The Southern Alkaline-Glazed Stoneware Tradition. It's available from
the McKissick Museum in Columbia, S.C. $14.95 ISBN 0-87249-951-0 ciao, Jim
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iandol on thu 17 may 01
To L. P. Skeen, For Richard.
This sort of information can be accessed via one of the Industrial Arts =
Encyclopedias which were published in the late 1800s. In the US I would =
contact Library of Congress. In the UK The British Library or The Museum =
of Industry and Science at Newcastle Upon Tyne.
Ivor Lewis. Redhill, South Australia
lindac on thu 17 may 01
I missed this post yesterday. Sometimes I don't catch them until they
reappear in the response to form!
There is a kick wheel in the pottery shop at Sturbridge Village, Sturbridge,
MA USA. It is a standing wheel and the wheel head is cut from a tree trunk.
Many times I've been there and the poor demonstrator isn't a potter and he's
trying to throw a little cylinder on that wheel! (new demonstrators each
year, etc.)
Makes me all jumpy to hold myself back from asking him if I can go back
there and give it a try! Of course women didn't throw back then. Or so
they tell me, it was a part time occupation of a farmer to supplement his
income and many of their pieces were being squeezed out by the new fangled
Tin Smith. "the Tupperware of the 1800's" anyhow, I ramble
http://www.osv.org/tour/pottery.htm has a photo and some info. I'm certain
that Sturbridge Village staff would be very helpful.
FYI, The folks at Plymouth Plantation don't have a Pottery set up as there
wasn't a potter here yet in 1627. Any clay wares they had were imported. I
wonder when the first Pottery Shop was set up in the USA??? Plymouth does
have demos of pottery being made in the forms that the Pilgrims were using.
http://www.plimoth.org/museum/cc-pots.htm
Have a great day!
Linda
> Folks,
> Yesterday, part of this message appeared here, and I questioned what it
was
> about. This is the reply I got from Mary, but still no contact info for
> "Richard".
>
>
> Lisa,
> It appears only the last part of this request was sent to clayart. Here is
> the request I received from Richard. Thanks for your interest,
> Best regards,
> Mary
>
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> ********************************
>
> MARY
>
> I AM AN ARCHAEOLOGIST FOR THE WILSON POTTERY FOUNDATION. I AM IN THE
> PROCESS OF RESTORING THE THIRD WILSON SITE INTO A WORKING POTTERY AS IT
WAS
> IN THE LATE 1800'S UP TO 1903. MY PROBLEM IS KNOWING WHAT A KICK WHEEL,
IN
> THOSE DAYS, LOOKED LIKE IN ENOUGH DETAIL TO BE ABLE TO RECREATE ONE. IS
IT
> POSSIBLE TO STEER ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO INFORMATION OR PEOPLE THAT
> MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP ME.
>
> SINCERELY,
>
> RICHARD KINZ
> "KEEPER OF THE KILNS"
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>
>
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Snail Scott on thu 17 may 01
At 08:29 AM 5/17/01 -0400, you wrote:
Of course women didn't throw back then. Or so
>they tell me, it was a part time occupation of a farmer to supplement his
>income and many of their pieces were being squeezed out by the new fangled
>Tin Smith.
>Linda
I don't know the East Coast colonial period
very well (always lived in former Spanish
colonial parts of the country) and my interest
in post-Renaissance history is not strong.
However...I know that in medieval France and
England, there were women recorded on the rolls
of virtually every craft guild (not many, but
some), and it was common for the wives and
daughters of a craftsman to work in the trade
(not just keeping the shop) although their
names did not appear in the guild rolls. Many
of the women who do appear on the guild rolls
were actually the widows of guild craftsmen,
permitted to continue in their own names, just
as they at last became, with widowhood, the
legal owners of their own property.
(Your trivia item du jour!)
-Snail
M.Gilbert on sat 19 may 01
I am usually a "lurker" but couldn't resist this subject. Tommy mentione=
d a
few of the traditional folk potters in his post. A few years ago I was l=
ucky
enough to spend a little time in Lanier Meaders' old shop while one of hi=
s
nephews was working there. I considered myself very fortunate to be able=
to
turn a few pots on his tredle wheel. Like the wheels that Tommy mentione=
d,
this wheel was indeed hand-built and utilized some old autoparts. The sp=
lash
pan was constructed of old boards that fashioned an open-top box around t=
he
wheel head. A feed bag filled with hay was suspended from a nail on the =
wall
behind the wheel to prop your rear against while you work. Doesn't sound=
like
much... but what a pleasure... nothing but the rhythmic squeak of the tre=
dle
as you pumped it with your foot. =
Marcia
in the northeast Georgia mountains. =
Tommy Humphries wrote:
For a start two great reference books about pottery in the 1800's would b=
e
"raised in clay" by Nancy Sweezy, by Smithsonian books 1984
ISBN0-87474-859-3 And the Foxfire Book #8 doubleday/anchor 1984 ISBN
0-385-17741-0.
These books outline the lives and livings of many of the traditional folk=
potters from the 1800's up to the mid 1980's. Unfortunately many of the
potters mentioned in the books are no longer with us...names like Gordy,
Meaders, and Brown. Many of their offspring and relatives are still busy
turning out traditional ware in the southern usa. The equipment used by
them was mostly all handbuilt, usually by an ancestor several generations=
back. You will find truck and tractor parts bolted together with old
household "junk" to make wheels, pugmills, mixers etc. These books are =
a
"must read" for any potter wanting to get the most from their craft.
Tommy Humphries
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Jeff van den Broeck on sat 19 may 01
In the Encyclopedia made by the frenchmen Diderot and d'Alembert (18th
century) you can find two models of kick wheels with drawings of top,
bottom, side, front, back and all parts on scale.
The chapter on ceramics has been republished under the french title 'Arts
de la Ceramique' , costed me about $8.
As editor is mentioned Inter-Livres, the reprint has been done in
Barcelona. For complete information: ISBN 2.905.388 552.
Hope it can help you.
Yours, Jeff
At 16:41 05/17/2001 +0930, you wrote:
>To L. P. Skeen, For Richard.
>
>This sort of information can be accessed via one of the Industrial Arts
Encyclopedias which were published in the late 1800s. In the US I would
contact Library of Congress. In the UK The British Library or The Museum of
Industry and Science at Newcastle Upon Tyne.
>
>Ivor Lewis. Redhill, South Australia
>
>
Jeff van den Broeck
P.O.Box 1099, Baguio City 2600
Philippines
jvdb@skyinet.net
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