Khaimraj Seepersad on tue 12 jun 01
Hello to All ,
Ivor ,
I have stayed out of the conversation , simply because , most
people don't like to go through all that trouble over a pot.
Bonsai Pots [ actually the preferred pots are Chinese , because
they breathe , clay is of the highest quality and are the
historical / traditional choice. Tokonoma was born out of Yi Xing
I believe ] , so we should be saying Penjing . Pots have
proportions to be learned , until they are instinct and then the rules
are made to be broken.
A good pot does not overheat your tree , withstands cold and
is understated , unless your working with Mame'[ under 3 " ].
Then they can be loud ,and the sky is the limit.
Above all , one should see the tree and not the pot .
Good business to get into , these pots [ handmade ] can start in
the hundreds of $ US , and are made more like Fine Art , than
plain old pottery .
[ this also goes for those mame' pots and thimble or seed size ]
Colours of clay and glaze are matched to the trees - trunk , leaves
, fruit or other qualities .
So you would know , this is my 22 second year in Bonsai [ Penjing
as I use the Ling Nan - clip and grow technique - no wires ] , and
I only began to seriously buy pots 3 years or so ago.
A Penjing Potter [ Yi Xing ] is a potter to bow down and worship .
Ask Luis Fontanils [ more Avant - Garde than I am and much braver
/ aggressive in tree / pot shapes / colours ].
Khaimraj [ traditional old fogey ] - chuckle .
Still looking for THE POT for my Tamarindus Indica [ natural style ]
* we are not speaking [ of course ] of cheapo Chinese moulders ,
or 7 UP bottle green glazes , etc.
-----Original Message-----
From: iandol
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: 12 June 2001 7:41
Subject: Making Bonsai Pots. Use your Extruder
Dear vince pitelka,
Though I support your attitude bizarre thing to say on the Clayartlist.>, respect the knowledge you have
gained from your associate and agree with you that many planters are
shallow, please remember that the style of pot which is eventually made or
selected has to conform to the cannons of another art form even if the style
is avant-garde. It may be essential to make a very deep container for a
specimen which is shaped in the Cascade style and, were this the case, your
advice might be contrary to that needed.
My suggestions to anyone just contemplating making a few pots for
themselves, or wishing to break into this niche market are; read as widely
as possible into the art; talk to those who supply your materials about the
needs of the plants; try to get hold of a pot manufacturers catalogue;
peruse the latest Bonsai magazines or periodicals. There is great potential
here for people who are learning to use extrusion methods to build pots.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis. Redhill, South Australia
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iandol on wed 13 jun 01
Dear vince pitelka,
Though I support your attitude bizarre thing to say on the Clayartlist.>, respect the knowledge you =
have gained from your associate and agree with you that many planters =
are shallow, please remember that the style of pot which is eventually =
made or selected has to conform to the cannons of another art form even =
if the style is avant-garde. It may be essential to make a very deep =
container for a specimen which is shaped in the Cascade style and, were =
this the case, your advice might be contrary to that needed.
My suggestions to anyone just contemplating making a few pots for =
themselves, or wishing to break into this niche market are; read as =
widely as possible into the art; talk to those who supply your materials =
about the needs of the plants; try to get hold of a pot manufacturers =
catalogue; peruse the latest Bonsai magazines or periodicals. There is =
great potential here for people who are learning to use extrusion =
methods to build pots.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis. Redhill, South Australia
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