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help find electric wheel silencer

updated tue 19 jun 01

 

Douglas and Marjorie King on sat 16 jun 01


Hello - One of our favorite electric wheels is a 25 year old Creative =
Industries Variable Speed Wheel with a 1HP motor. The good news is that =
it is bullet proof workhorse that will turn anything. The bad news is =
that the electric motor has a very annoying whine that is finally =
driving us nuts. We have been told by several people that there is an =
electronic device that silences these electric motors. Can anyone =
direct us to someone who can supply a "whine silencer?" Thank you in =
advance.

Marjorie King Studio Clay Art Pottery [TM]
marjorieking@marjoriekingstudio.com

Fredrick Paget on sun 17 jun 01


Hi,
I have not examined your wheel so this is only a guess.
If it is not some kind of mechanical problem - such as bearings (bad
bearings make a sound like a freight train going by)- it could be that the
electric wave form into the motor is not a smooth DC but a pulsating DC
(120 hertz with a lot of harmonics) which a common control circuit
produces.
Most manufacturers of wheels put a silencer (called a filter) in the line
between the motor and the controller to smooth out the DC. It is a whopping
big electrolytic capacitor (About the size of a can of Campbell's tomato
soup- maybe not so fat as that but in a can ) with an inductor (also
called a choke- looks like a small transformer) ahead of it, that is
speaking electrically it is ahead of it - the actual parts can be mounted
anywhere under the wheel.
Now there are two possibilities; 1) there is no filter; 2) the filter is
there but the capacitor is old and dried out. They have a lifetime, you see
-and needs replacement.
Why not contact Creative Industries, They are still in business in Southern
California. E-mail: potwheel@creative-ind.com http://www.creative-ind.com .
Fred Paget

Hello - One of our favorite electric wheels is a 25 year old Creative =
>Industries Variable Speed Wheel with a 1HP motor. The good news is that =
>it is bullet proof workhorse that will turn anything. The bad news is =
>that the electric motor has a very annoying whine that is finally =
>driving us nuts. We have been told by several people that there is an =
>electronic device that silences these electric motors. Can anyone =
>direct us to someone who can supply a "whine silencer?" Thank you in =
>advance.
>
>Marjorie King Studio Clay Art Pottery [TM]
>marjorieking@marjoriekingstudio.com
>
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Douglas and Marjorie King on mon 18 jun 01


Many thanks for the suggestions and the lead. You are right. There is
supposed to be a filter unit the size of a big soup can that plugs in
between the motor and the wall to silence the whine because it is an
electrical not a mechanical problem. They stopped making these units years
ago. We called Creative a few years ago and they said they don't make
filters for a wheel that old, but they do make them for more recent ones.
Do you have any ideas where I can get a filter? Thanks again.

Margie King
marjorieking@marjoriekingstudio.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fredrick Paget"
To:
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: Help Find Electric Wheel Silencer


> Hi,
> I have not examined your wheel so this is only a guess.
> If it is not some kind of mechanical problem - such as bearings (bad
> bearings make a sound like a freight train going by)- it could be that the
> electric wave form into the motor is not a smooth DC but a pulsating DC
> (120 hertz with a lot of harmonics) which a common control circuit
> produces.
> Most manufacturers of wheels put a silencer (called a filter) in the line
> between the motor and the controller to smooth out the DC. It is a
whopping
> big electrolytic capacitor (About the size of a can of Campbell's tomato
> soup- maybe not so fat as that but in a can ) with an inductor (also
> called a choke- looks like a small transformer) ahead of it, that is
> speaking electrically it is ahead of it - the actual parts can be mounted
> anywhere under the wheel.
> Now there are two possibilities; 1) there is no filter; 2) the filter is
> there but the capacitor is old and dried out. They have a lifetime, you
see
> -and needs replacement.
> Why not contact Creative Industries, They are still in business in
Southern
> California. E-mail: potwheel@creative-ind.com http://www.creative-ind.com
.
> Fred Paget
>
> Hello - One of our favorite electric wheels is a 25 year old Creative =
> >Industries Variable Speed Wheel with a 1HP motor. The good news is that
=
> >it is bullet proof workhorse that will turn anything. The bad news is =
> >that the electric motor has a very annoying whine that is finally =
> >driving us nuts. We have been told by several people that there is an =
> >electronic device that silences these electric motors. Can anyone =
> >direct us to someone who can supply a "whine silencer?" Thank you in =
> >advance.
> >
> >Marjorie King Studio Clay Art Pottery [TM]
> >marjorieking@marjoriekingstudio.com
> >
>
>___________________________________________________________________________
___
> >Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
> >
> >You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> >settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
> >
> >Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
> >melpots@pclink.com.
>
>
> >From Fred Paget, Marin County, California, USA
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
__
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
melpots@pclink.com.
>