Susan Fox-Hirschmann on mon 25 jun 01
Hi earl,
Thanks for your response: Are you doing reduction and do you find that this
method of stacking on the top, with the large plates effects the reduction
thruout the kiln, or on the plates themselves?
just curious to know the above. This situation, really, is my only
misgiving about the Geil kiln. Other than that, most potters who have one
tell me it fires like a bat outta hell, and is a cadillac of a kiln.
do you agree?
sincerely
Susan
>From: Earl Brunner
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: geil gas kiln and large plates
>Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 06:52:48 -0700
>
>My Geil is smaller, but I had essentially the same problem. I
>originally bought a couple of 20X20 shelves, but since my stacking space
>was that big i the first place I was choking off the flow back down in
>the kiln.
>
>I found that I could do one of two things that seem to work. One, I
>place the 20X20 shelve at the very tome top of the kiln, so the rest of
>the stake has good flow. Two, I started making large platters with
>smaller feet and got some smaller shelves, like 12X12 and 14X14. I
>place them 2 to 3 inch supports in the middle of the kiln. This raises
>the shelf up and allows flow down through the space i the middle
>underneath it. I try to have small things that will go under this.
>Outside the 12 inch or 14 inch shelf as the open space gets larger under
>the platter I put bigger things. I should think that you could adapt
>this to your larger kiln. Hope I explained it right.
>
>Susan Fox-Hirschmann wrote:
>
>>I am considering buying a 27 cu foot Geil gas kiln but realize that the
>>shelves are 18"x18", and are set 4 across, and because of the bottom
>>burner
>>configuration, are stacked with space between them. (hard to explain but
>>hopefully understandable to those of you firing a Geil this size). Since
>>i
>>make large plates, I was wondering how i support a plate that was larger
>>than 18" diameter bottom , and if anyone out there in clayart land has
>>solved this potential problem.
>>thanks for your help.
>>Susan
>>annandale, VA
>>
>
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Earl Brunner on tue 26 jun 01
Again, mine is a smaller model, It's not really 'Stacking them at the
top" I can do ONE at the top or like Brad said, one on the bottom using
the full size shelves. In mine, there isn't a lot of free space around
the sides so the open flow down the middle is important, but it can be
staggered, there just has to be the openings for the circulation. I
fire reduction, being only an 8-9 cubic foot kiln it can be a little
spotty sometimes i reduction. It's not just the reduction though. If
you interrupt the downward flow of gases you get uneven firing. I
suspect that this is not just a Geil but a downdraft characteristic
though. I'm learning to not stack my stuff so close together and open it
up a little more inside.
Love the kiln though, it's so responsive.
Susan Fox-Hirschmann wrote:
> Hi earl,
> Thanks for your response: Are you doing reduction and do you find that
> this
> method of stacking on the top, with the large plates effects the reduction
> thruout the kiln, or on the plates themselves?
> just curious to know the above. This situation, really, is my only
> misgiving about the Geil kiln. Other than that, most potters who have one
> tell me it fires like a bat outta hell, and is a cadillac of a kiln.
> do you agree?
> sincerely
> Susan
>
>
>> From: Earl Brunner
>> Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>> Subject: Re: geil gas kiln and large plates
>> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 06:52:48 -0700
>>
>> My Geil is smaller, but I had essentially the same problem. I
>> originally bought a couple of 20X20 shelves, but since my stacking space
>> was that big i the first place I was choking off the flow back down in
>> the kiln.
>>
>> I found that I could do one of two things that seem to work. One, I
>> place the 20X20 shelve at the very tome top of the kiln, so the rest of
>> the stake has good flow. Two, I started making large platters with
>> smaller feet and got some smaller shelves, like 12X12 and 14X14. I
>> place them 2 to 3 inch supports in the middle of the kiln. This raises
>> the shelf up and allows flow down through the space i the middle
>> underneath it. I try to have small things that will go under this.
>> Outside the 12 inch or 14 inch shelf as the open space gets larger under
>> the platter I put bigger things. I should think that you could adapt
>> this to your larger kiln. Hope I explained it right.
>>
>> Susan Fox-Hirschmann wrote:
>>
>>> I am considering buying a 27 cu foot Geil gas kiln but realize that the
>>> shelves are 18"x18", and are set 4 across, and because of the bottom
>>> burner
>>> configuration, are stacked with space between them. (hard to explain but
>>> hopefully understandable to those of you firing a Geil this size).
>>> Since
>>> i
>>> make large plates, I was wondering how i support a plate that was larger
>>> than 18" diameter bottom , and if anyone out there in clayart land has
>>> solved this potential problem.
>>> thanks for your help.
>>> Susan
>>> annandale, VA
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Earl Brunner
>> http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec/
>> bruec@anv.net
>>
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