Bret Hinsch on thu 12 jul 01
Bernard Leach calls the Japanese technique of brushing on slip "hakeme".
Susan Peterson calls it "hakami". Who's right?
Bret in Taipei
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Rick Hugel on fri 13 jul 01
Why Bernard Leach is. For shame that you would doubt him. (smile)
>Bernard Leach calls the Japanese technique of brushing on slip "hakeme".
>Susan Peterson calls it "hakami". Who's right?
>
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Dannon Rhudy on fri 13 jul 01
At 08:54 PM 07/12/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Bernard Leach calls the Japanese technique of brushing on slip "hakeme".
>Susan Peterson calls it "hakami". Who's right?.......
Since the word written in English is a transliteration, both
are "right". Or wrong. In making transliterations, the
SOUND of the word is made as close as it can be made
in another alphabet.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
mariko cruse on fri 13 jul 01
Hi Rock, It's Hakeme.
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> Why Bernard Leach is. For shame that you would doubt him. (smile)
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> >Susan Peterson calls it "hakami". Who's right?
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Ian Currie on sat 14 jul 01
Hi Dannon
There is actually a precise convention for converting Japanese into the
Roman alphabet. This is made easy by the fact that the conversion is
phonetic, and it makes it easy for foreigners (us) to pronounce their words.
There is only one pronunciation for each vowel/consonant combination.
Compare this with outrageous languages like English!
"hake" is "brush" ... the vowel sounds are...."ha" as in "part"... "ke" as
in "kept"
"me" is "eye"... the vowel sound is..."me" as in "measure" (NOT "me")
If you use this pronunciation, a Japanese might be able to understand what
you say. However "hakami" does NOT make sense to a Japanese!
Bernard was right. Bet you 50 cents!
Cheers
Ian
http://ian.currie.to
-----Original Message-----
From: Dannon Rhudy
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Saturday, 14 July 2001 3:12
Subject: Re: is it hakeme or hakami?
>At 08:54 PM 07/12/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>>Bernard Leach calls the Japanese technique of brushing on slip "hakeme".
>>Susan Peterson calls it "hakami". Who's right?.......
>
>Since the word written in English is a transliteration, both
>are "right". Or wrong. In making transliterations, the
>SOUND of the word is made as close as it can be made
>in another alphabet.
>
>regards
>
>Dannon Rhudy
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