Rachael Rice on fri 20 jul 01
I have been trying to make bowls similar to Lucie Rie's small bowls with
a tall foot and wide bottom but I can't keep the bottom of the bowl from
slumping down nor can I get the foot as narrow and tall as she did. I
am using BMix5 clay. Any suggestions? Also Amazon.com said the book
"Lucie Rie" was out of print and was wondering where I can purchase a
copy of it.
Rachael
Dannon Rhudy on fri 20 jul 01
...... been trying to make bowls similar to Lucie Rie's small bowls with
>a tall foot and wide bottom......
>Rachael
Rachael, Lucy Rie was an excellent technician, and threw very
well. Some of those wide or tall small-footed pieces were thrown
in two parts, bowl first, then inverted and the foot thrown on,
or thrown separately and attached. Mostly, electric fired
porcelains. She brushed her glazes onto bone dry wares.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
John Forstall on sat 21 jul 01
Rachael Rice,
Your quest for making a Lucie Rie bowl reminded me of the days when I
started out in pottery. I complained to my instructor that my mugs were
clunky. He said OK, your assignment for the next two weeks is to make 100
mugs. By the time I got to #50 I was starting to get the hang of it, and
by #100 I was making a decent mug. Also made a lot of new friends giving
away all those mugs. If you're lucky when you get to your 100th it will be
a Rachael bowl, and Lucie's will still be in the book.
Cheers,
John
(John Forstall, Pensacola, FL.)
Ababi on sat 21 jul 01
Let us try and do it .Am I understand right that you do it on the
wheels?
OK the last time I "wheeled" was long ago, but it does not matter. you
need a thinking way of a hand builder.
You make the top, put it away
You make the bottom(of your piece) put it away
You make a pipe put it away
You make slip, from the same claybody, Can add defocusing, or Lana
Wilson's Magic water and go to smoke, (don't) or read the Potter's
dictionary, or make another piece.
Now, these three parts are firm you take the bottom(of your piece). In
my point of view it is an upside down bowl with small hole to let the
air run out in the firing. You can put it one a lump of clay, smaller
from the width of the "bottom" but the same hight. cover it with a
paper or a plastic bag to avoid attaching. Now with your magic slip,
connect the "pipe"When you think it is firm enough fill it with
newspapers balls connect the top. dry slowly
fire glaze and send me your piece
Ababi Sharon
Kibbutz Shoval- Israel
officially Glaze addict
ababisha@shoval.ardom.co.il
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---------- Original Message ----------
>I have been trying to make bowls similar to Lucie Rie's small bowls with
>a tall foot and wide bottom but I can't keep the bottom of the bowl from
>slumping down nor can I get the foot as narrow and tall as she did. I
>am using BMix5 clay. Any suggestions? Also Amazon.com said the book
>"Lucie Rie" was out of print and was wondering where I can purchase a
>copy of it.
>Rachael
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iandol on sun 22 jul 01
Dear Rachael Rice,
I think part of the problem is that, other than the people this great =
lady taught, no one would know about her throwing styles and technique. =
So you may have to go back to first principles and ignore what you have =
been taught about throwing bowls.
I have just refreshed my memory by having a look at the illustrations =
and can see several ways of achieving those forms.
If you need more directions, please contact me off list.
Best regsrds,
Ivor Lewis. Redhill, South Australia.
Rachael Rice on mon 23 jul 01
John: I have made over 500 bowls in the last three months. They are definitely
Rachael Bowls not Lucie Rie bowls and can be described as my dear Clayart friend
Sandy Dwiggins has said as great doorstops. I know the saying goes that practice
makes perfect but isn't it perfect practice that produces perfection. I wonder how
one achieves perfect practice in pottery? Thanks for the encouragement.
Rachael
John Forstall wrote:
> Rachael Rice,
> Your quest for making a Lucie Rie bowl reminded me of the days when I
> started out in pottery. I complained to my instructor that my mugs were
> clunky. He said OK, your assignment for the next two weeks is to make 100
> mugs. By the time I got to #50 I was starting to get the hang of it, and
> by #100 I was making a decent mug. Also made a lot of new friends giving
> away all those mugs. If you're lucky when you get to your 100th it will be
> a Rachael bowl, and Lucie's will still be in the book.
> Cheers,
> John
> (John Forstall, Pensacola, FL.)
>
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Snail Scott on tue 24 jul 01
At 10:35 PM 7/23/01 -0400, you wrote:
>I know the saying goes that practice
>makes perfect but isn't it perfect practice that produces perfection.
A late friend and kenjutsu master especially hated
that phrase, "Practice makes perfect". He always
said, "Practice makes permanent!"
If you're doing something wrong, doing more of it
won't fix it; it just ingrains the wrong way to the
exclusion of the right, making it more difficult to
change later. Repetition alone does not modify
technique, it just solidifies it.
The difference, I think, is in knowing whether you
are doing something wrong, or just ineptly. Practice
will cure the latter, but not the former.
What's 'right' in pottery is a bit more subjective
than what's 'right' in a kenjutsu kata, however.
If it works well for you, it ain't wrong.
-Snail
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