Diane Winters on fri 27 jul 01
To any out there with websites serving as catalogs/portfolios dedicated =
to your pottery or tile (Clayart webmeisters step forward):
How big is it (in MBs) and what's the URL?
I'm especially interested in any sites that are close to using up a 5MB =
or 10MB limit imposed by whomever hosts your site, so I can see what =
those limits look like in real life, but any input is welcome.
My local ISP has decided to get out of the consumer dial-up access =
business, which is too bad since they've been very supportive of the =
arts around here and give us, among other things, for our $20/month a =
free 25MB (yes, 25MB) website. I haven't got a site up yet but was =
looking forward to all that space. They are passing us on to Earthlink =
where for the same amount of money I'll only get 5MB or for an extra =
$7/month I can have 10MB. But maybe that's all I need, I ask hopefully?
What I want to do is an on-line catalog/portfolio - but no actual =
on-line commerce - with about 60 thumbnails and an equal number of =
larger images. Plus price list, product info, bio.
You can reply off list to avoid clogging up Clayart.
Thanks,
diane@winterstileworks.com=20
Jennifer F Boyer on fri 27 jul 01
My web site folder reads 1.2 MB's. I have a lot of pics.
The url is listed below.
Take Care
Jennifer
Diane Winters wrote:
>
> To any out there with websites serving as catalogs/portfolios dedicated =
> to your pottery or tile (Clayart webmeisters step forward):
>
> How big is it (in MBs) and what's the URL?
> I'm especially interested in any sites that are close to using up a 5MB =
> or 10MB limit imposed by whomever hosts your site, so I can see what =
> those limits look like in real life, but any input is welcome.
>
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Thistle Hill Pottery
95 Powder Horn Glen Rd
Montpelier, VT 05602 USA
802-223-8926
http://www.thistlehillpottery.com/
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Marie Gibbons on fri 27 jul 01
my webspace is a freebie from AOL
you get 2mb per screen name and can have up to 7 screen names....
gives some good space
www.oooladies.com
marie
Richard Jeffery on sat 28 jul 01
there are standards for making web pages more accessible, and even some free
audit tools you can download to test your developments - take a look at
http://www.cast.org/bobby/
Some browser software will read text and image descriptions to the user. In
fact, it's more than image tags - a straightforward and sequential page
design is required, and there are implications for table construction, too.
This negates the use of much fancy web bits reliant upon JavaScript or
whatever, and is a strong argument for designing two versions of your web -
one fancy, one not. although we might balk at the extra work, legislation I
understand is already starting to bite in the US to make this level of
access a requirement in certain cases, and the framework for legal
challenges to uk web site owners is theoretically there with the DDA.
expect to see legal action or tighter controls (or attempts thereat) within
the next 5 - 10 years.
actually, it's a damn good idea. this could be any of us, and probably is
some of us. as voice recognition and text parsing software gets more
sophisticated (and its authors don't try to run off with the geld..) this is
a great medium for putting a window onto the world for those who don't get
to use the glass ones too well.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On
Behalf Of Janet Kaiser
Sent: 28 July 2001 00:59
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: How big is your pottery/tile website?
5MB is theoretically enough space for zillions of
pages. However as soon as you start using images rather
than just text, they eat up the bits and bytes. The CoA
web site http://www.the-coa.org.uk is currently:
86 pages of HMTL = 1.13 MB
75 gif images = 191KB
329 jpeg images = 3.70 MB where image size is
(coincidentally) from the smallest at 4KB to 44KB max.
SUCAWS http://www.clayart.fsnet.co.uk has
34 HTML pages = 301 KB
8 gif images = 41.8 KB
100 jpeg images = 1.81 MB
For some reason the space taken up when "out there" is
over 11 MB on The CoA site... I do not know why, but
could be because there are files which are no longer
used. Bad house-keeping, so to say ;-) Or HTML plus
images takes up more space? No idea!
BTW I was recently made aware of a group of people who
need very tidy HTML and good ALT text for images,
especially for any buttons, gifs or jpegs which work as
hyperlinks... Blind or partially sighted people have
software which tells them where the links lead... So,
if there is no ALT text, they cannot follow links. It
is also a courtesy for them to at least be able to read
what an image is, even if they cannot view it. I was
happy to hear that the CoA site is user-friendly once
they are past the home page.
Our home page did not pass the test with flying
colours, because of the unexpected number of flags and
languages.
Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art . Capel Celfyddyd
HOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL POTTERS' PATH
Criccieth LL52 0EA, GB-Wales Tel: (01766) 523570
E-mail: postbox@the-coa.org.uk
WEBSITE: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
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Janet Kaiser on sat 28 jul 01
5MB is theoretically enough space for zillions of
pages. However as soon as you start using images rather
than just text, they eat up the bits and bytes. The CoA
web site http://www.the-coa.org.uk is currently:
86 pages of HMTL = 1.13 MB
75 gif images = 191KB
329 jpeg images = 3.70 MB where image size is
(coincidentally) from the smallest at 4KB to 44KB max.
SUCAWS http://www.clayart.fsnet.co.uk has
34 HTML pages = 301 KB
8 gif images = 41.8 KB
100 jpeg images = 1.81 MB
For some reason the space taken up when "out there" is
over 11 MB on The CoA site... I do not know why, but
could be because there are files which are no longer
used. Bad house-keeping, so to say ;-) Or HTML plus
images takes up more space? No idea!
BTW I was recently made aware of a group of people who
need very tidy HTML and good ALT text for images,
especially for any buttons, gifs or jpegs which work as
hyperlinks... Blind or partially sighted people have
software which tells them where the links lead... So,
if there is no ALT text, they cannot follow links. It
is also a courtesy for them to at least be able to read
what an image is, even if they cannot view it. I was
happy to hear that the CoA site is user-friendly once
they are past the home page.
Our home page did not pass the test with flying
colours, because of the unexpected number of flags and
languages.
Janet Kaiser
The Chapel of Art . Capel Celfyddyd
HOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL POTTERS' PATH
Criccieth LL52 0EA, GB-Wales Tel: (01766) 523570
E-mail: postbox@the-coa.org.uk
WEBSITE: http://www.the-coa.org.uk
Ramberg Christine on tue 31 jul 01
Hi Diane,
You've probably gotten a lot of responses already, but since I make a living doing computer graphics, as well as websites, thought I should throw in my $.02 worth of advice! One site I designed for a painter has 45 images (thumbnails and full size) as well as graphics for links. The entire site is only 2.5 MBs. (http://www.artistccegeli.com). If you can get 10 MB for a site, that should do just fine.
Also, an image's weight (file size) depends on its actual pixel size, resolution and compression. Make images at 72 dpi (dots per inch-same as resolution) and try different jpg compressions. If you are not sure how to manipulate images, I'd be glad to give you info on that, just let me know what software you'd be using.
Do you have a site now where I can view your work? I am just starting to get back into the "clay life" (after tooo long of a departure) and one of my first goals will be to design tiles.
Christine Ramberg
Diane Winters wrote:
> To any out there with websites serving as catalogs/portfolios dedicated to your pottery or tile (Clayart webmeisters step forward):
>
> How big is it (in MBs) and what's the URL?
> I'm especially interested in any sites that are close to using up a 5MB or 10MB limit imposed by whomever hosts your site, so I can see what those limits look like in real life, but any input is welcome.
>
> My local ISP has decided to get out of the consumer dial-up access business, which is too bad since they've been very supportive of the arts around here and give us, among other things, for our $20/month a free 25MB (yes, 25MB) website. I haven't got a site up yet but was looking forward to all that space. They are passing us on to Earthlink where for the same amount of money I'll only get 5MB or for an extra $7/month I can have 10MB. But maybe that's all I need, I ask hopefully?
>
> What I want to do is an on-line catalog/portfolio - but no actual on-line commerce - with about 60 thumbnails and an equal number of larger images. Plus price list, product info, bio.
>
> You can reply off list to avoid clogging up Clayart.
> Thanks,
> diane@winterstileworks.com
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
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