CINDI ANDERSON on sat 28 jul 01
I was at a class where Gil Harison was making long loopy handles using a handheld
propane torch. This seems like a neat tool, so I asked my hubbie for one. He says
at the hardware stores now all they have are ones that are called "trigger start"
but where you turn the gas on with one knob, and press a button to light it. Then
to turn it off you turn the gas knob to off.
What I remembered was one where you started and stopped the gas with one trigger
(pull for gas, let go to stop.) That seems more convenient and actually more safe,
but I'm wondering if newer ones are not allowed to be made that way for some
reason.
Or are we looking in the wrong place? If anyone can shed any light I would
appreciate it.
Thanks,
Cindi.
F.Melville on sun 29 jul 01
Cindi, I think you are referring to those long-barrelled gas lighters which=
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I used to find so useful for lighting the 5 burners on my kiln. Now they=20
have that extra press-in-and hold device which are a pain in the=20
butt. They are designed to make them 'childproof', and I think that if you=
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want one of the old kind you will have to go and get it in Europe, where=20
children are taught to be careful and look after themselves.
Fran=E7oise
http://indalopottery.tripod.com
Larry Phillips on sun 29 jul 01
CINDI ANDERSON wrote:
>
> What I remembered was one where you started and stopped the gas with one trigger
> (pull for gas, let go to stop.) That seems more convenient and actually more safe,
> but I'm wondering if newer ones are not allowed to be made that way for some
> reason.
>
> Or are we looking in the wrong place? If anyone can shed any light I would
> appreciate it.
I just checked with Canadian Tire, and they carry one that looks like it
works as you want. It's made by Bernz-O-Matic, model number TS4000T.
Have a look at their web site, http://www.bernzomatic.com/ under
Products, Torches, then click on the TS4000T picture.
There are several other models as well.
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cd on sun 29 jul 01
If you are looking for something that will dry your pots out in a hurry, =
check out: http://www.bernzomatic.com/catal3.htm#L_G
The JT850 has a trigger start and is intended to be a "weed burner". =
Puts out 20,000 btu's.
You will need to cut down the shaft and reassemble with a couple of =
brass fittings from the hardware store, and then relocate the position =
of the trigger....but this baby dries things out very quickly.
Craig
vince pitelka on mon 30 jul 01
> What I remembered was one where you started and stopped the gas with one
trigger
> (pull for gas, let go to stop.) That seems more convenient and actually
more safe,
> but I'm wondering if newer ones are not allowed to be made that way for
some
> reason.
Cindi -
Your husband did not look very hard. Bernzomatic makes a very good torch
which sells for about $35 at any Home Depot, Lowe's, Walmart, or any good
hardware store. It accepts normal propane cylinders, has an all-metal body,
and the flame starts when you depress the button, and stops when you release
the button. You can press a smaller lock button to hold it in the on
position if you wish. The only disadvantage is that it is either full on or
full off, but I have not found this to be much of a disadvantage. When
using it to stiffen clay you can just hold it closer or farther away,
depending on how much heat you want.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
Bruce Girrell on mon 30 jul 01
Since the subject of propane torches has come up:
Does anyone know of a torch head that at least _tries_ to regulate the gas
pressure? Every time I change the position of my torch the flame changes
size, sometimes even blowing itself out. I hate it. But I have never seen a
pressure regulated torch head. About the closest would be a refillable tank
with a regulator mounted on it and hose connection to the burner. Not very
portable. I'm looking for something very similar to a normal torch
valve/burner combo that also includes at least an attempt at pressure
regulation.
Bruce "yes, I know I used a sentence fragment" Girrell
Lynn Korbel on mon 30 jul 01
Cindi, i hate how difficult "they" have made these propane lighters to use.
you can insert a screw in the top part~this will keep it pushed forward for
you. now all you need do is pull the trigger. don't let "them" know or
the thing will be redesigned with 3 buttons..... :-^
best wishes,
Lynn
Philip Poburka on mon 30 jul 01
Dear Bruce,
One method of having the little 'Bernz-O-Matic' or whatever similar
outfit's Flame remain stable, is to have a hose which connects the
bottle-of-gas to the Torch head.
They used to sell these, maybe still do for the small one-time Cylinders.
The Bernz-O-Matic one I have is maybe four feet long...but the connectors
are the crucial part...one may always substitute a longer or shorter hose.
You might consider to contact them to see if they still offer this handy
option.
If necessary, one could make one pretty easily...out of an old head or two,
and some hose...they made little Camp-Stoves as well, from which the part
that screws on the Bottle could be salvaged...
Otherwise, as you mention, the gas presure changes as you slosh the
contents, with a coresponding influence on the flame.
Also, having the torch head on a hose allows more manueverability, and acess
to tight places, where having it right on the Bottle is a mite clumsy
sometimes.
Good luck,
Philip
Las Vegas...
> Since the subject of propane torches has come up:
>
> Does anyone know of a torch head that at least _tries_ to regulate the gas
> pressure? Every time I change the position of my torch the flame changes
> size, sometimes even blowing itself out. I hate it. But I have never seen
a
> pressure regulated torch head. About the closest would be a refillable
tank
> with a regulator mounted on it and hose connection to the burner. Not very
> portable. I'm looking for something very similar to a normal torch
> valve/burner combo that also includes at least an attempt at pressure
> regulation.
>
> Bruce "yes, I know I used a sentence fragment" Girrell
>
>
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jcullen on mon 30 jul 01
> CLIP one
trigger (pull for gas, let go to stop.) That seems more convenient and
actually
more safe, but I'm wondering if newer ones are not allowed to be made that
way for
some reason.
Bernzomatic Model 6000 Trigger Starter does the job.
It's a trigger-operated hand gun with a hose connected to the propane
cylinder. Open the main gas jet, squeeze the trigger, it's on. Release the
trigger, it's off. I've had mine over a year and I've never shutdown the
main jet. No gas leaking and always ready to go. There's also a button on
the side to hold the trigger for whatever reason anyone would want to do
that.
It think it was about $42 US at Home Depot with a propane cylinder included.
Comes with a hander and a steel holster tube. Works great.
"Beautiful young people are acts of nature,
but beautiful old people are works of art."
KEEP CENTERED
Cullen
Naperville, Illinois
mail to: jcullen845@ameritech.net
Daryl McCracken on mon 30 jul 01
On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 20:29:18 -0700, CINDI ANDERSON wrote:
>I was at a class where Gil Harison was making long loopy handles using a
handheld
>propane torch. This seems like a neat tool, so I asked my hubbie for
one. He says
>at the hardware stores now all they have are ones that are called "trigger
start"
>but where you turn the gas on with one knob, and press a button to light
it. Then
>to turn it off you turn the gas knob to off.
>
>What I remembered was one where you started and stopped the gas with one
trigger
>(pull for gas, let go to stop.) That seems more convenient and actually
more safe,
>but I'm wondering if newer ones are not allowed to be made that way for
some
>reason.
>
>Or are we looking in the wrong place? If anyone can shed any light I would
>appreciate it.
>
>Thanks,
>Cindi.
>
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You should be able to find both "regular" and trigger start propane torches
at your local hardware store or even Walmart, Kmart or Target. However, if
you are unable to find the non-trigger heads, I would suggest trying a
smaller, "mom and pop" hardware store as they often have items not found at
Home Depot and Lowes.
True Value http://www.truevalue.com has an excellent online selection of
torch burner heads and torch kits which would fit your needs as well.
The only advantage that a trigger might have is that you won't lose your
igniter or need to replace the flints. On the other hand, I like simple
tools that perform well. The trigger heads I have used seem not to last as
long as my regular head.
In regards to safety, you should practice regular safety guidelines
recommended by the manufacturer. I have yet to see anything from Benzomatic
indicating that one torch head style is safer than another but perhaps
someone else has suggestions....
Daryl McCracken
Houston, TX
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