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becky schroeder on sun 12 aug 01


you all better thank god i'm off to the beach for a week and therefore off
clayart for the week or i'd have WAY tooo much to say on this post. and
when i fly i am a swarthmore graduate.

becky


>From: mel jacobson
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: an artist
>Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:31:29 -0500
>
>i attended a lecture years ago by the one and only, frank lloyd wright.
>
>he said, and i quote perfectly, as i heard this with my own ears.
>
>`an artist is a person that has a little motor running in them.
>it runs all the time, they cannot turn it off. that is why they
>like to drink and use drugs, it helps turn down the motor.`
>
>we are a unique group of folks, that is for sure.
>mel
>those of us that taught clay our entire life and made pots
>our entire life, get to say that we are full time potters.
>i do, and am damn proud to say it.
>
>of course, for fun, when i fly i tell the person next to me that
>i am a `brain surgeon`, a `book reviewer for the new york times`,
>or that i `work for tony clennell in canada, making clay.`
>boy, now that impresses the folks.
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mel jacobson on sun 12 aug 01


i attended a lecture years ago by the one and only, frank lloyd wright.

he said, and i quote perfectly, as i heard this with my own ears.

`an artist is a person that has a little motor running in them.
it runs all the time, they cannot turn it off. that is why they
like to drink and use drugs, it helps turn down the motor.`

we are a unique group of folks, that is for sure.
mel
those of us that taught clay our entire life and made pots
our entire life, get to say that we are full time potters.
i do, and am damn proud to say it.

of course, for fun, when i fly i tell the person next to me that
i am a `brain surgeon`, a `book reviewer for the new york times`,
or that i `work for tony clennell in canada, making clay.`
boy, now that impresses the folks.
From:
Minnetonka, Minnesota, U.S.A.
web site: http://www.pclink.com/melpots

Lee Love on mon 13 aug 01


----- Original Message -----
From: "mel jacobson"

> `an artist is a person that has a little motor running in them.
> it runs all the time, they cannot turn it off. that is why they
> like to drink and use drugs, it helps turn down the motor.`

John Gardener, the novelist said that you know you are a writer when what ever
happens in your life, you still keep on writing.

Below are quotes from my web page that isn't currently up. They relate to the
heart of the true artist:

Warren MacKenzie said:

"The challenge is to do the thing you have to do because you're in love with it
and can't do anything else. Not because you want to become famous or rich, but
because you will be unhappy if you can't do it. It is not something you can
turn on and off."

Willem Gebben said:

"Trading intuition and creativity for something that sells isn't a good
transaction. If one's work never provides economic security, at least one has
the satisfaction of doing what feels right. Money can't buy that."

Hamada said:

"To return to mingei, the problem is how does the individual artist today
approach folkcraft. Of course the answer is that he should look after his
character first. The problem of his own character must come foremost. With one's
intellect, with one's mind, one can understand what tradition means. The folk
art formula may be fed though the mind and through the intellect. But in work,
what comes out must come out through one's own fingertips, one's own hands,
otherwise it is no work at all.... Because Yanagi was a critic and dealt in
words, he used the term "beauty" a great deal to express what he was trying to
say. In my case, being a workman, I do not feel any lack by not using that
word.... Beauty is not in the head or in the heart, but in the abdomen."


Jim "Struttin' With Some Barbecue" Mann. (told to me as I was waiting for
barbecue pork sandwiches.) :

"It's not about who is better than who, or who's the best. It's about today:
Are you going to do your best today?"

Three Shaker Guidelines:

Industry:

"Do all your work as if you had a thousand years to live and as if
you were to die tomorrow."

Honesty:

"Be what we seem to be; and seem to be what we
really are; don't carry two faces."

Functionalism:

"That which in itself has the highest use possesses the greatest
beauty."

--

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Carolsan on mon 13 aug 01


Artist - a person whose "creative" work shows sensitivity and imagination
Professional - a person engaged in a "learned" occupation, not necessarily
creative or imaginative

Regards,

C. Burkhart

Philip Poburka on mon 13 aug 01


I agree with the below...

And my sense of things, to elaborate, is that an 'Artist' may do the
mundane, in such a way, or embued with such a presence, as to forbid the
mundane and say-so in the outcome...

The work transcends and exceeds the 'sum' of it's otherwise attributed
'parts'.

Or as some may sometimes say...'it looks back at you'...

Or as well...some may just be doing the dishes...and you look at them...and
can hear the Angels singing...or something...

Art is 'motion' somehow, and does not allways leave footprints when it
passes.
But I am glad that it does...leave them...when it does, and it does...

Philip
Las Vegas...

> Artist - a person whose "creative" work shows sensitivity and imagination
> Professional - a person engaged in a "learned" occupation, not necessarily
> creative or imaginative
>
> Regards,
>
> C. Burkhart
>
>
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Robert Dye on tue 14 aug 01


I think an artist has something to say that can best be said through a
creative media. Every piece created can be judged for success by how well
the audience receives the communication intended by the artist. A piece;
pot, painting, play, poem, book, dance, even an advertisement will and
should be judged, at least by the artist, by how well the idea has gotten
across to the intended audiance.
Every person is unique, and senses things in a unique way. A wine
bottle is likely to be seen differently by each person looking at it. Some
will be most aware of the composition of the glass, some the curves of the
bottle, some the tint of the glass or the nuances of the label, others will
hardly see the bottle, and be only really aware of the contents. An artist
can render the bottle in such a way that others can see the bottle of wine
in the unique way the artist does.

BVCuma on wed 11 sep 02


I said:
>> I think it is an embarrassing term.
>> An outdated and loaded stereotype.

Vince said:
>>I understand exactly what you are saying, but I think the entire problem
is
>>the concept of "an outdated and loaded stereotype."
____________________-

Vince... (rikki)

I have difficulty labeling myself anything...
It just doesn't do me justice..lol

I can say I make pottery..but I am not a potter
or I can say I make sculpture..but I am not a sculptor..

And if asked what I do for a living..
It would be an absolute lie if I said...."I'm a clay artist"
That for me it is just bogus..dorky
I never sold a thing in ceramic!
(ok, I sold one piece..... hello Vincent!)
there simply is far better ways to earn..

So..
I do not say I am an artist..
and I don't say I make art.

I CAN say, I have an artistic bent..
I make stuff, things, work and Rarely I say (to myself)
Now, This is a work of Art!..
Very much so.

Thats just the way it is...
________________

>>The solution to this problem is to use the term "artist" freely and
easily,
to bestow it generously, and to claim it proudly without ever attaching any
kind of swollen primadonna egotism.<<
________________

Of course you are absolutely.. RIGHT (Vince)

Still...

If anything...
I would like to be able to say.. I am a meditator.
But I fall so short of the mark..I don't.
So I meditate...

maybe its the same for.. "artist"
I think just... "arting" will do

Bruce

ps. Vince.. please excuse the diluted response.