bisque of flat plates

updated thu 16 aug 01

Schwartz Family on sun 12 aug 01

Hi,
I am going to bisque a set of plates that have finally dried out in my damp
basement. In order to fit them all into my small kiln, I would like to
place them on their rims- very carefully that is. Does anyone have an
opinion on this? When I have stacked flat plates on top of one another in
the past, they usually crack. My bowls do not seem to crack when stacked.
Thanks for the help. DEbby

Rikki Gill on sun 12 aug 01

Hi Debby, When I fire plates, I stack them four high. Mine never break from
stacking this high, tho sometimes for another reason, such as not dry
enough, so I usually heat them to about 150 degrees then shut the lid of the
kiln and fire the next day. Good luck, Rikki
-----Original Message-----
From: Schwartz Family
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Sunday, August 12, 2001 2:27 PM
Subject: bisque of flat plates


>Hi,
>I am going to bisque a set of plates that have finally dried out in my damp
>basement. In order to fit them all into my small kiln, I would like to
>place them on their rims- very carefully that is. Does anyone have an
>opinion on this? When I have stacked flat plates on top of one another in
>the past, they usually crack. My bowls do not seem to crack when stacked.
>Thanks for the help. DEbby
>
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billie schwab on sun 12 aug 01

hi debby.....
i fire all of my platters and plates on their rims. after reading one of
mel's posts regarding this i tried it and voila! not a crack since. search
for mel's post on this subject, in the archives. i start with the
shortest/smallest items and lean them against the inside of the kiln in a
circular fashion, overlapping the one before as i go. starting with the
smallest and ending with the tallest i go round until i finish or run out of
room.

good luck :-)

ps... you may also want to search for the subject of drying racks. seems to
me bob santerre commented on drying racks, a while back, that he had made
using a portable light inside some type of contained rack. i may be all wet
here but i think i am remembering it correctly.

billie


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KLeSueur@AOL.COM on sun 12 aug 01

I always fire my flat pieces on edge stacked against something. I lay them
against utensil holders or vases or anything else that will prop them up. I
made a large slab pot just to lean my 24" platters against. I put narrow
trays inside. I've never lost pieces fired this way.

Kathi LeSueur

Dale Neese on sun 12 aug 01

Place three to four pieces of kaowool evenly spaced around near the rim
separating the plates one on top of the other so that the plates are not
touching. Three plates in a stack is my limit. Try and place the kaowool
above the kaowool underneath.
Dale Tex

Hank Murrow on sun 12 aug 01

DEbby wrote;
>I am going to bisque a set of plates that have finally dried out in my damp
>basement. In order to fit them all into my small kiln, I would like to
>place them on their rims- very carefully that is. Does anyone have an
>opinion on this? When I have stacked flat plates on top of one another in
>the past, they usually crack. My bowls do not seem to crack when stacked.
>Thanks for the help.


Dear Debby;

I fire all my flatware and not-so-flat-ware on their rims. Perhaps
120 plates every six weeks. Never have a problem unless I try to place them
in with slight residual moisture, then the rims distort a bit. Try it,
you'll like it.

Cheers, Hank in Eugene

John & Susan Balentine on mon 13 aug 01

What is kaowool? Where can it be purchased or found? Thanks,Susan

Dale Neese wrote:

> Place three to four pieces of kaowool evenly spaced around near the rim
> separating the plates one on top of the other so that the plates are not
> touching. Three plates in a stack is my limit. Try and place the kaowool
> above the kaowool underneath.
> Dale Tex
>
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John & Susan Balentine on mon 13 aug 01

I like the idea of firing plates and platters on their rims, have never tried that
before. I am concerned about one thing though. Have always heard to be sure and
leave at least a fingers width between the pots and your kiln wall. Leaning plates
against the walls doesn't sound safe to me. Any comments? Susan

Hank Murrow wrote:

> DEbby wrote;
> >I am going to bisque a set of plates that have finally dried out in my damp
> >basement. In order to fit them all into my small kiln, I would like to
> >place them on their rims- very carefully that is. Does anyone have an
> >opinion on this? When I have stacked flat plates on top of one another in
> >the past, they usually crack. My bowls do not seem to crack when stacked.
> >Thanks for the help.
>
> Dear Debby;
>
> I fire all my flatware and not-so-flat-ware on their rims. Perhaps
> 120 plates every six weeks. Never have a problem unless I try to place them
> in with slight residual moisture, then the rims distort a bit. Try it,
> you'll like it.
>
> Cheers, Hank in Eugene
>
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Schwartz Family on mon 13 aug 01

Thanks for all the advice. I will try firing as suggested when I return
from vacation. I'll let the list know how it went. Debby

Karen Sullivan on mon 13 aug 01

Susan...
I always stacked plates on their rim...and tried not to lean the
plate edge directly on the element... better off to the side...but I never
had problems with cracking or problems with placing the work against
the kiln wall...
If you are too anxious...place a kiln post along the wall
that braces the stack of plates and provides the one inch space
away from the elements.
bamboo karen


on 8/13/01 4:19 AM, John & Susan Balentine at balentine@CHARTER.NET wrote:


> I like the idea of firing plates and platters on their rims, have never tried
> that
> before. I am concerned about one thing though. Have always heard to be sure
> and
> leave at least a fingers width between the pots and your kiln wall. Leaning
> plates
> against the walls doesn't sound safe to me. Any comments? Susan
>
> Hank Murrow wrote:
>
>> DEbby wrote;
>>> I am going to bisque a set of plates that have finally dried out in my damp
>>> basement. In order to fit them all into my small kiln, I would like to
>>> place them on their rims- very carefully that is. Does anyone have an
>>> opinion on this? When I have stacked flat plates on top of one another in
>>> the past, they usually crack. My bowls do not seem to crack when stacked.
>>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> Dear Debby;
>>
>> I fire all my flatware and not-so-flat-ware on their rims. Perhaps
>> 120 plates every six weeks. Never have a problem unless I try to place them
>> in with slight residual moisture, then the rims distort a bit. Try it,
>> you'll like it.
>>
>> Cheers, Hank in Eugene
>>
>>
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iandol on tue 14 aug 01

Hold on a minute.

I'm a bit confused by this. platters on their rims>

Are these being fired with the circumference of the rim in contact with =
the shelf or are they been stood on the edge of the rim so that the =
plane of the plate is almost vertical.

My experience of firing plates stood on the edge of their rim is that =
they curl up and become total scrap. I can see the advantage of the =
other way. It may help to eliminate "Spinners"

Ivor Lewis. Redhill, South Australia