Jonathan Pennington on sun 12 aug 01
This is going to make many people here grown in agony. Please remember
that I am a scientist/roboticist/programmer primarily, so attack
problems differently. I'm thinking of the best way to log and keep
track of information and I'm a notorious paper looser.
I'd like to know if other people use their computer for tasks such as
those listed below. Specifically, I'd like to know how many here are
Palmtop computer users (Palm, Visor, any with PalmOS) who'd be
interested in an application (free) that would either log or perform
some or all of the tasks.
Kiln fire logging
Kiln firing scheduling and firetime settings
Glaze/clay recipe database
Glaze/clay chemical analysis function
Cost analysis per (unit|pound|ton|pizza|beer)
Production manager
Other pottery specific function that I cannot think of?
Basically, I'm writing a software set for myself that will make it
easy to quickly select, for example, cone, kiln, time, fire time,
date, number of pieces, etc from a couple lists and log the firing.
Since I'm a notorious geek with a Visor always in my pocket, it'll be
easier than loosing scraps of paper constantly, or trying to write it
in my never-present-which-book-was-that-again? Also, it'll facilitate
use in computer/database apps, since I won't then have to type the
information in again. I'll then program a quick conduit program for
the desktop to use for the more text/math intensive parts of the
program. Such as unitary chemical analysis. Basically, You'd enter
chemicals from a list, then amounts, and when you sync, your big
computer will give you an analysis and add the numbers to your database.
Again, I know this is geek/non-earthy-potter stuff. I'm doing this as
a hack just for myself because if I have to keep doing it in a book or
slips of paper, it won't get done. If there's one other person on the
list who'd use such a dorky thing, I'll make sure it works on more
than just my own Handspring Visor. Again, it'll be free. Wouldn't it
be nice to go to a pottery studio and have another potter beam you the
recipe to her claybody complete with chemical analysis? Ok, so I'm a
dork, so what.
Offlist replies are fine, names will be changed to protect the innocent.
-J
"There are no pots, there is only clay." -me
Jim Mason on mon 13 aug 01
Robert,
I rely very heavily on my Palm Pilot. I take it everywhere and use it a lot.
I think that the applications you mentioned would be very useful to me.
Thanks!
Jim Mason
Gibsonville, NC
Kenneth J. Nowicki on mon 13 aug 01
I just started using an older Palm Pilot III. It was a hand me down from my
wife when she upgraded to the newer HP Jornada. Still learning how to use it,
and trying to get in the habit of using it and taking it with me
everywhere... but it's something I'm not used to using yet. I definitely see
potential in using it not only for keeping me organized and "on time" to my
appointments, but your suggestion for it's uses in clay related tasks sounds
especially appealing. Yes, I'd be interested in a free application with
regards to the things you mentioned. :-)
The best part of it to me is the Hot Sync feature... type it once in your
computer... sync it... and you're good to go... no more typing things twice
or more... I like that!
Ken
in Encino, CA (soon to be Long Island, NY)
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In a message dated 08/12/01 8:43:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
john@COASTALGEOLOGY.ORG writes:
>
> I'd like to know if other people use their computer for tasks such as
> those listed below. Specifically, I'd like to know how many here are
> Palmtop computer users (Palm, Visor, any with PalmOS) who'd be
> interested in an application (free) that would either log or perform
> some or all of the tasks.
>
> Kiln fire logging
> Kiln firing scheduling and firetime settings
> Glaze/clay recipe database
> Glaze/clay chemical analysis function
> Cost analysis per (unit|pound|ton|pizza|beer)
> Production manager
> Other pottery specific function that I cannot think of?
>
> Basically, I'm writing a software set for myself that will make it
> easy to quickly select, for example, cone, kiln, time, fire time,
> date, number of pieces, etc from a couple lists and log the firing.
Cindy Gatto on mon 13 aug 01
Dear J :
I would definitely be interested in one of these programs.
Sincerely:
Mark Petrin
The Mudpit
228 Manhattan Ave
Brooklyn NY 11206
718-218-9424
mudpitnyc@aol.com
www.mudpitnyc.com
Robert Dye on mon 13 aug 01
I am a retired programmer, but never considered a program for the kinds of
things you list. I do those things but use a format called an engineering
notebook. An engineering notebook is freeform. The first few pages list a
category, and description of contents, which constantly change. It start
out listing each page in order, with the contents of the page. (Later on I
add an index using MS-Word, sorting a table by category and description.
Most of the pages start out as blank pages with page numbers, and things
are written on these pages or pasted on them, often with fold out
capability. I have a page for kiln firings, mold pourings, pot shape
sketches, raw ideas, sketches of possible pottery tools, photos of Mimbres
and Anasazi pottery, pictures of cave paintings; it goes on and on, and the
only commonality is that everything has to do with art. I also have an
engineering notebook for computing, gardening, and keep one for my wife
having newspaper clippings on travel destinations, etc. This freeform
system is open ended with very little time required to add pages, just a
pen to add to the books contents and make the note or some paste,
(preferable rubber cement,) to add a clipped item. Eventually if a
notebook grows big enough I take the time to enter the contents page into
table form and keep it on my computer.
Ann Semple on mon 13 aug 01
Hi Jonathan,
This sounds like a pretty good idea to me. I currently use Tony Hansen's
Insight for glaze analysis, database and cost analysis, but do so on my
desktop which I don't keep in the studio because of dust problem. A Palm
would be much easier to keep free of dust and handier to enter data in the
studio. Count me in! Thanks.
Ann
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Pennington"
To:
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 4:41 PM
Subject: ePottery- or -using computers in production.
This is going to make many people here grown in agony. Please remember
that I am a scientist/roboticist/programmer primarily, so attack
problems differently. I'm thinking of the best way to log and keep
track of information and I'm a notorious paper looser.
I'd like to know if other people use their computer for tasks such as
those listed below. Specifically, I'd like to know how many here are
Palmtop computer users (Palm, Visor, any with PalmOS) who'd be
interested in an application (free) that would either log or perform
some or all of the tasks.
Kiln fire logging
Kiln firing scheduling and firetime settings
Glaze/clay recipe database
Glaze/clay chemical analysis function
Cost analysis per (unit|pound|ton|pizza|beer)
Production manager
Other pottery specific function that I cannot think of?
Basically, I'm writing a software set for myself that will make it
easy to quickly select, for example, cone, kiln, time, fire time,
date, number of pieces, etc from a couple lists and log the firing.
Since I'm a notorious geek with a Visor always in my pocket, it'll be
easier than loosing scraps of paper constantly, or trying to write it
in my never-present-which-book-was-that-again? Also, it'll facilitate
use in computer/database apps, since I won't then have to type the
information in again. I'll then program a quick conduit program for
the desktop to use for the more text/math intensive parts of the
program. Such as unitary chemical analysis. Basically, You'd enter
chemicals from a list, then amounts, and when you sync, your big
computer will give you an analysis and add the numbers to your database.
Again, I know this is geek/non-earthy-potter stuff. I'm doing this as
a hack just for myself because if I have to keep doing it in a book or
slips of paper, it won't get done. If there's one other person on the
list who'd use such a dorky thing, I'll make sure it works on more
than just my own Handspring Visor. Again, it'll be free. Wouldn't it
be nice to go to a pottery studio and have another potter beam you the
recipe to her claybody complete with chemical analysis? Ok, so I'm a
dork, so what.
Offlist replies are fine, names will be changed to protect the innocent.
-J
"There are no pots, there is only clay." -me
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L. P. Skeen on mon 13 aug 01
Jonathan,
I think this would be a faboo software for the full platform as well. :)
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Pennington
To:
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 7:41 PM
Subject: ePottery- or -using computers in production.
> This is going to make many people here grown in agony. Please remember
> that I am a scientist/roboticist/programmer primarily, so attack
> problems differently. I'm thinking of the best way to log and keep
> track of information and I'm a notorious paper looser.
>
> I'd like to know if other people use their computer for tasks such as
> those listed below. Specifically, I'd like to know how many here are
> Palmtop computer users (Palm, Visor, any with PalmOS) who'd be
> interested in an application (free) that would either log or perform
> some or all of the tasks.
>
> Kiln fire logging
> Kiln firing scheduling and firetime settings
> Glaze/clay recipe database
> Glaze/clay chemical analysis function
> Cost analysis per (unit|pound|ton|pizza|beer)
> Production manager
> Other pottery specific function that I cannot think of?
>
> Basically, I'm writing a software set for myself that will make it
> easy to quickly select, for example, cone, kiln, time, fire time,
> date, number of pieces, etc from a couple lists and log the firing.
> Since I'm a notorious geek with a Visor always in my pocket, it'll be
> easier than loosing scraps of paper constantly, or trying to write it
> in my never-present-which-book-was-that-again? Also, it'll facilitate
> use in computer/database apps, since I won't then have to type the
> information in again. I'll then program a quick conduit program for
> the desktop to use for the more text/math intensive parts of the
> program. Such as unitary chemical analysis. Basically, You'd enter
> chemicals from a list, then amounts, and when you sync, your big
> computer will give you an analysis and add the numbers to your database.
>
> Again, I know this is geek/non-earthy-potter stuff. I'm doing this as
> a hack just for myself because if I have to keep doing it in a book or
> slips of paper, it won't get done. If there's one other person on the
> list who'd use such a dorky thing, I'll make sure it works on more
> than just my own Handspring Visor. Again, it'll be free. Wouldn't it
> be nice to go to a pottery studio and have another potter beam you the
> recipe to her claybody complete with chemical analysis? Ok, so I'm a
> dork, so what.
>
> Offlist replies are fine, names will be changed to protect the innocent.
> -J
> "There are no pots, there is only clay." -me
>
>
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Michael Sowers on mon 13 aug 01
< Kiln fire logging
Kiln firing scheduling and firetime settings
Glaze/clay recipe database
Glaze/clay chemical analysis function
Cost analysis per (unit|pound|ton|pizza|beer)
Production manager
Other pottery specific function that I cannot think of>
I use Insight and Foresight for these items. There is not a place to put
firing information at this time but I emailed Tony Hansen and suggested
another database for storing firing information with automatic rate of fire
calculations and fields for weather conditions, kiln packing, reduction,
etc. He said it sounded like a great idea and would put it in the next
revision.
http://www.digitalfire.com for information and the software.
Mike
Classic Lines Pottery
Michael Sowers
Tel: 208-331-0803
Fax: 208-331-0487
Email: mike@classiclinespottery.com
Web: www.classiclinespottery.com/
Valerie Johnson on tue 14 aug 01
In a message dated 8/12/01 11:27:09 PM Central Daylight Time,
john@COASTALGEOLOGY.ORG writes:
> This is going to make many people here grown in agony. Please remember
> that I am a scientist/roboticist/programmer primarily, so attack
> problems differently. I'm thinking of the best way to log and keep
> track of information and I'm a notorious paper looser.
>
>
sign me up, I use a Palm!
John and Dorothy Weber on wed 15 aug 01
My husband and I both use Palm Pilot. He more than I but it is a tool we use
daily. We would be interested in your program.
Thanks
John and Dorothy Weber
Manakin-Sabot, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On
Behalf Of Jonathan Pennington
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 7:41 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: ePottery- or -using computers in production.
This is going to make many people here grown in agony. Please remember
that I am a scientist/roboticist/programmer primarily, so attack
problems differently. I'm thinking of the best way to log and keep
track of information and I'm a notorious paper looser.
I'd like to know if other people use their computer for tasks such as
those listed below. Specifically, I'd like to know how many here are
Palmtop computer users (Palm, Visor, any with PalmOS) who'd be
interested in an application (free) that would either log or perform
some or all of the tasks.
Kiln fire logging
Kiln firing scheduling and firetime settings
Glaze/clay recipe database
Glaze/clay chemical analysis function
Cost analysis per (unit|pound|ton|pizza|beer)
Production manager
Other pottery specific function that I cannot think of?
Basically, I'm writing a software set for myself that will make it
easy to quickly select, for example, cone, kiln, time, fire time,
date, number of pieces, etc from a couple lists and log the firing.
Since I'm a notorious geek with a Visor always in my pocket, it'll be
easier than loosing scraps of paper constantly, or trying to write it
in my never-present-which-book-was-that-again? Also, it'll facilitate
use in computer/database apps, since I won't then have to type the
information in again. I'll then program a quick conduit program for
the desktop to use for the more text/math intensive parts of the
program. Such as unitary chemical analysis. Basically, You'd enter
chemicals from a list, then amounts, and when you sync, your big
computer will give you an analysis and add the numbers to your database.
Again, I know this is geek/non-earthy-potter stuff. I'm doing this as
a hack just for myself because if I have to keep doing it in a book or
slips of paper, it won't get done. If there's one other person on the
list who'd use such a dorky thing, I'll make sure it works on more
than just my own Handspring Visor. Again, it'll be free. Wouldn't it
be nice to go to a pottery studio and have another potter beam you the
recipe to her claybody complete with chemical analysis? Ok, so I'm a
dork, so what.
Offlist replies are fine, names will be changed to protect the innocent.
-J
"There are no pots, there is only clay." -me
____________________________________________________________________________
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Patricia & John Richmond on sat 25 aug 01
I use FileMakerPro and have created databases for all the items you listed. It is very helpful and saves time although learning the software was very time consuming. I highly recommend FileMaker. Great software!
--
Patricia & John Richmond
jrichmond4@cfl.rr.com
Port Orange, Florida 32129
Ababi on sat 25 aug 01
I want to tell you of another aspect of glaze software.
The way my studio runs, I have to be balanced, not great profits. as a part
of my community.
How I do it? The incomes from the lessons are not very high.
When I prepare a glaze for my students, I look at the alumina silica, B2O3
and the Shekels ( our Money) or as they appear on the software Matrix -"$"
and Insight "text". A small different per k"g glaze makes a big different in
the expense along the year.. Another aspect. When I get "stuck" with a
material that I o ordered too much of it, I change the glazes (not the
formula) and finish the needles material
Ababi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patricia & John Richmond"
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 12:29
Subject: Re: ePottery- or -using computers in production.
> I use FileMakerPro and have created databases for all the items you
listed. It is very helpful and saves time although learning the software was
very time consuming. I highly recommend FileMaker. Great software!
> --
>
>
> Patricia & John Richmond
> jrichmond4@cfl.rr.com
> Port Orange, Florida 32129
>
>
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