Jeremy McLeod on mon 24 sep 01
A long while back I was studying meditation in a center that was
1) not airconditioned and 2 ) a half block from a major freeway.
It was a hot, humid summer and the windows were open to
catch whatever breezes they could. The teacher chose not to
use recorded music of any kind to help block out the freeway
noise. When asked to use music, she would say, "If you can't
meditate next to a freeway, you can't meditate."
When I'm in my own studio, I often listen to music or NPR news
coverage. When I'm in the public studio in which I participate
I listen to whatever's on the radio.
It strikes me that there's a similarity between the two settings.
If I can't focus sufficiently when "someone else's music"
(or conversation or ... ) is in the air, then I need to look to
my ability to concentrate more than the sound environment
in which I'm trying to work. I say this as a professional musician
for whom music and my sound environment are primally important.
Just a different take on this thread...
Jeremy McLeod
Christena Schafale on tue 25 sep 01
Although I understand where you are coming from, I think this is akin to
saying to a near-sighted person, "If you can't see without glasses, you
can't see." Some of us are "differently abled" when it comes to
concentration, just as some see better, hear better, etc. For those of us
with less than "20-20" powers of concentration, we need the quiet
environment or the less-distracting music just as much as the near-sighted
person needs glasses. Concentration is not just a matter of willpower, as
your meditation teacher seems to imply.
Chris
At 06:45 PM 9/24/01 -0600, you wrote:
>A long while back I was studying meditation in a center that was
>1) not airconditioned and 2 ) a half block from a major freeway.
>It was a hot, humid summer and the windows were open to
>catch whatever breezes they could. The teacher chose not to
>use recorded music of any kind to help block out the freeway
>noise. When asked to use music, she would say, "If you can't
>meditate next to a freeway, you can't meditate."
>
>If I can't focus sufficiently when "someone else's music"
>(or conversation or ... ) is in the air, then I need to look to
>my ability to concentrate more than the sound environment
>in which I'm trying to work.
>Jeremy McLeod
>
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scott lykens on tue 25 sep 01
They tell us in education classes, that is to say classes in education
theory taught be folks with phd's in the how and why it works, that there
are screners and non screners. Anon screner is someone who needs this
absolute calm environment where nothing or as little as possible is coming
in for them to process other than the specific material tasks at hand. The
screener can work with lots of things going on around them and many suggest
need to have something to ignore in order to concentrate on something else.
This is pointed out because you may recognize a screener in a class on non
screeners and give them a little distraction when you re present the
material. It suggested that you tailor the class to teach as many students
as possible, and so if it is a class of screeners they need the obtrusive
things in order to learn. Or another way to say it would be. If the
majority of hte group needs something in order to learn anything at all.
Then what should one do?? change the persective of the course to fit 2
students specific learning needs. What kind of happens is we learn to
adapt. Screeners learn to work in a quite room with music that makes them
fall asleep, while non screeners learn to work in a noisey room.
Much like differing opinions on any life style choice that appears right in
front of our faces, we tend to feel affected and therefore learn tolerance
to others needs and opinions.
How about quite during schedualed class time and noise during non schedualed
class time,
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>Although I understand where you are coming from, I think this is akin to
>saying to a near-sighted person, "If you can't see without glasses, you
>can't see." Some of us are "differently abled" when it comes to
>concentration, just as some see better, hear better, etc. For those of us
>with less than "20-20" powers of concentration, we need the quiet
>environment or the less-distracting music just as much as the near-sighted
>person needs glasses. Concentration is not just a matter of willpower, as
>your meditation teacher seems to imply.
>
>Chris
>
>At 06:45 PM 9/24/01 -0600, you wrote:
>>A long while back I was studying meditation in a center that was
>>1) not airconditioned and 2 ) a half block from a major freeway.
>>It was a hot, humid summer and the windows were open to
>>catch whatever breezes they could. The teacher chose not to
>>use recorded music of any kind to help block out the freeway
>>noise. When asked to use music, she would say, "If you can't
>>meditate next to a freeway, you can't meditate."
>>
>
>>If I can't focus sufficiently when "someone else's music"
>>(or conversation or ... ) is in the air, then I need to look to
>>my ability to concentrate more than the sound environment
>>in which I'm trying to work.
>>Jeremy McLeod
>>
>>______________________________________________________________________________
>>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>>
>>You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
>>settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>>
>>Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
>>melpots@pclink.com.
>
>Consultation and Referral Specialist
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>christenas@rfsnc.org
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>Phone: (919) 713-1537
>FAX: (919) 872-9574
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>Raleigh, NC 27609
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