Phyllis Kloda on thu 27 sep 01
Hello!
I am looking for artists using Bailey kilns. I'm having a terrible time with
mine and am looking for those who are firing successfully. This is a Studio
Model 24/16- not sure the year it was made. I'm guessing it may be about
10-12 years old. We have the kiln inside and there seems to be inadequate
draft/ pull happening. I'm wondering how others with Baileys inside, have
their chimneys set and what type of ventilation is in use.
I will also try the Bailey Corp. for help but want to get info. from others.
Any information will help.
Thanks
Phyllis
clennell on thu 27 sep 01
Sour Cherry Pottery
> Hello!
> I am looking for artists using Bailey kilns. I'm having a terrible time with
> mine and am looking for those who are firing successfully. This is a Studio
> Model 24/16- not sure the year it was made. I'm guessing it may be about
> 10-12 years old. We have the kiln inside and there seems to be inadequate
> draft/ pull happening. I'm wondering how others with Baileys inside, have
> their chimneys set and what type of ventilation is in use.
> I will also try the Bailey Corp. for help but want to get info. from others.
> Any information will help.
> Thanks
> Phyllis
Phyllis; I think your Bailey has forced air burners which makes it a
pushing kiln and not a pulling kiln. Less dependence on chimney height and
width. I think perhaps you need to look at the damper adjustment, to the air
shutter on the blower, to the variable speed fan control. If you need more
flame velocity open the shutter more or turn up the fan or both.. these
burners are a pain in the arse. you need to learn to listen to the burner
for that little fluttering sound. Liz is still firing her Bailey, she will
correct me if I've forgotten something.
I find I'm more secure with a good ole atmospheric burner. But you still
have to learn to listen.
I can't recommend strongly enough the book The Art of Firing by Nils Lou.
nils goes into thorough detail about flame colour, sounds and adjustments.
this book should be sent along with every bailey kiln. It's a good one.
Our Stevie B could have it in the mail for you today. It might be the best
money you could spend outside an Oxy-probe. Nils sells those too. that's
where i bought mine.
cheers and good fire.
tony
cheers,
tony
Tony and Sheila Clennell
Sour Cherry Pottery
4545 King Street
Beamsville, Ontario
CANADA L0R 1B1
http://www.sourcherrypottery.com
clennell@vaxxine.com
Liz Willoughby on fri 28 sep 01
Hello Phyllis, I must have missed the post that you put up about the
Bailey kiln, I have been using the delete button a lot these days,
very busy getting stuff done. I do have the same kiln. Mine is in a
Kiln garage with the chimney that came from Bailey. A lot depends on
the formation of the shelves that you have to go with the kiln. Mine
is of the old T formation, which they do not offer any more, as it is
more difficult to get the proper reduction with this formation, (but
easier to stack the back of the kiln if you are not muscle bound). I
am however, getting good reduction and (at the moment good carbon
trapping with shinos), {please god, don't throw me a curve ball
because I said this}.
I highly recommend that you phone Bailey and get their manual on
firing their kilns, as well as Nils book as Tony suggested. They are
very helpful too if you phone them. I go into reduction at C 012
(because of shino), close the air flaps, close the damper to about
2" for 1 hour, ease up a bit on the damper then, still keeping it in
good reduction all the way to cone 10. I keep the flaps closed and
the fans on low or at 3 0'clock. But each kiln fires differently,
and it just takes firing it to get to know it. I like my Bailey and
get good consistent results with tenmoku, celadons, and shinos.
If you want to know more please e-mail me for more info. I fire by
sight, sound, and flame, no extra gizmos.
Good luck, sorry that I did not reply sooner. Meticky Liz
p.s.someone posted this week that they had lost their in and out
mailboxes. Well so did I, computer froze as it was getting messages,
then everything was gone. Used Norton, now virus free, if that was
the problem, I do not know.
> > Hello!
> > I am looking for artists using Bailey kilns. I'm having a
>terrible time with
> > mine and am looking for those who are firing successfully. This is a Studio
> > Model 24/16- not sure the year it was made. I'm guessing it may be about
> > 10-12 years old. We have the kiln inside and there seems to be inadequate
> > draft/ pull happening. I'm wondering how others with Baileys inside, have
> > their chimneys set and what type of ventilation is in use.
> > I will also try the Bailey Corp. for help but want to get info.
>from others.
> > Any information will help.
> > Thanks
> > Phyllis
>
>Phyllis; I think your Bailey has forced air burners which makes it a
>pushing kiln and not a pulling kiln. Less dependence on chimney height and
>width. I think perhaps you need to look at the damper adjustment, to the air
>shutter on the blower, to the variable speed fan control. If you need more
>flame velocity open the shutter more or turn up the fan or both.. these
>burners are a pain in the arse. you need to learn to listen to the burner
>for that little fluttering sound. Liz is still firing her Bailey, she will
>correct me if I've forgotten something.cheers and good fire.
>tony
>cheers,
>tony
Tony and Sheila Clennell
Liz Willoughby
RR 1
2903 Shelter Valley Rd.
Grafton, On.
Canada
K0K 2G0
e-mail lizwill@phc.igs.net
Sarah House on fri 28 sep 01
I too have been fighting this model for two years. I have a good firing and
get my hopes up, then YUCK! I have had about 6 conversations with Jim
Bailey. Call him! If you are firing the model with one large shelf in the
back and two in the front, then we are in the same boat and they made
significant changes with the next years kilns. Jim can help with those
updates. My shed is built and i will have my own kiln very soon!
Sarah
http://www.skhpottery.com
shouse@mcdowell.main.nc.us
po box 84
Little Switzerland, NC
828-756-1191
Timothy Sullivan on fri 28 sep 01
I'm firing a Bailey kiln with very consistent results - please feel free to
contact me off list.
Tim
Phyllis Kloda on sat 29 sep 01
On 9/28/01 1:42 PM, "Sarah House" wrote:
> I too have been fighting this model for two years. I have a good firing and
> get my hopes up, then YUCK! I have had about 6 conversations with Jim
> Bailey. Call him! If you are firing the model with one large shelf in the
> back and two in the front, then we are in the same boat and they made
> significant changes with the next years kilns. Jim can help with those
> updates. My shed is built and i will have my own kiln very soon!
> Sarah
>
> http://www.skhpottery.com
> shouse@mcdowell.main.nc.us
> po box 84
> Little Switzerland, NC
> 828-756-1191
>
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Thanks -I did call Bailey too.
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