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pit firing - acrylic wax?

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L. P. Skeen on wed 3 oct 01


Use clear floor wax instead. Trewax is best.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lajos Kamocsay
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 6:53 PM
Subject: pit firing - acrylic wax?


Hello,

I've pit fired a couple of small pots, and would like to apply some kind of
finish to them. I've read in the archives that people use acrylic wax to do
that, but my local art store doesn't have acrylic wax. Where can I get some?
Also: is there any other method to give these pots some kind of shiny
finish?

Thanks,
Lajos

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Lajos Kamocsay on wed 3 oct 01


Hello,

I've pit fired a couple of small pots, and would like to apply some kind =
of finish to them. I've read in the archives that people use acrylic wax =
to do that, but my local art store doesn't have acrylic wax. Where can I =
get some?
Also: is there any other method to give these pots some kind of shiny =
finish?

Thanks,
Lajos

Imzadi Donelli on thu 4 oct 01


It's not in the art supply store. Try FUTURE (brand) clear acrylic floor wax
from the cleaning section in your local supermarket.

Imzadi

Kim Marie on thu 4 oct 01


I think the acrylic wax mentioned when I was at a firing workshop was the
kind for floors like Future or ones like that. At the workshop we applied
butchers wax to the pot while still warm. It's a paste wax kind of like the
Johnson's Paste Wax for floors.
kim

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Lajos Kamocsay
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 6:53 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: pit firing - acrylic wax?


Hello,

I've pit fired a couple of small pots, and would like to apply some kind of
finish to them. I've read in the archives that people use acrylic wax to do
that, but my local art store doesn't have acrylic wax. Where can I get some?
Also: is there any other method to give these pots some kind of shiny
finish?

Thanks,
Lajos

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Jonathan Kirkendall on thu 4 oct 01


I prefer tung oil (a wood finishing oil/wax) to acrylic floor wax. Doesn't
leave the pots with that just-waxed-the-linoleum-floor smell.

Jonathan in DC

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Subject: Re: pit firing - acrylic wax?


Use clear floor wax instead. Trewax is best.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lajos Kamocsay
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 6:53 PM
Subject: pit firing - acrylic wax?


Hello,

I've pit fired a couple of small pots, and would like to apply some kind of
finish to them. I've read in the archives that people use acrylic wax to do
that, but my local art store doesn't have acrylic wax. Where can I get some?
Also: is there any other method to give these pots some kind of shiny
finish?

Thanks,
Lajos

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John Guerin on thu 4 oct 01


In a message dated 10/3/01 10:49:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
kamo@VIRTUALMAGICUSA.COM writes:

<< I've pit fired a couple of small pots, and would like to apply some kind
of finish to them. I've read in the archives that people use acrylic wax to
do that, but my local art store doesn't have acrylic wax. Where can I get
some?
Also: is there any other method to give these pots some kind of shiny
finish? >>

Liquid floor wax is acrylic and it is available at your supermarket. I use
JASCO TILE GLOSS AND SEAL available at Home Depot. It is a very good acrylic
sealer. Apply it in several thin coats with a clean cloth. Apply in thin
coats because it dries very quickly. It not only seals and leaves a shiny
finish but also enhances the colors.

John Guerin
Tucson, AZ

Cindy Strnad on thu 4 oct 01


Dear Lajos,

Many kinds of wax or oil will work to finish your
pit fired pieces. If you wax the inside with
acrylic wax, they will even be somewhat watertight
so they can hold flowers, etc. (Not food), though
you should still set the vase on a saucer or
something. As Jonathan says, they will smell a bit
sweet if you use acrylic wax. This wax is
available at your grocery store--a popular brand
is Future floor wax. The aroma goes away after
several days, and if you don't apply the wax
thickly, you don't end up with super shiny pots.
Works well for me. However, try several things and
find out which you like best.

Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
cindy@earthen-vessels-pottery.com
http://www.earthen-vessels-pottery.com

Ray Gonzalez on thu 4 oct 01


i have always used carnuba wax available from your local auto suppily store
at a total cost of about six bucks! it is great. hard paste wax is what
you need.

ray.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lajos Kamocsay"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:53 PM
Subject: pit firing - acrylic wax?


Hello,

I've pit fired a couple of small pots, and would like to apply some kind of
finish to them. I've read in the archives that people use acrylic wax to do
that, but my local art store doesn't have acrylic wax. Where can I get some?
Also: is there any other method to give these pots some kind of shiny
finish?

Thanks,
Lajos

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vince pitelka on thu 4 oct 01


Lajos wrote:
"I've pit fired a couple of small pots, and would like to apply some kind of
finish to them. I've read in the archives that people use acrylic wax to do
that, but my local art store doesn't have acrylic wax. Where can I get some?
Also: is there any other method to give these pots some kind of shiny
finish?"

Lajos -
First of all, I would be cautious of using acrylic wax on any ceramic piece.
When you use such material, you get a surface that no longer looks like clay
or slip or glaze. It looks like it has been varnished, and in my opinion
that does not seem appropriate. You have to decide whether or not this is
something you can live with. I have never seen a surface finished with
acrylic wax which I thought was an improvement over the untreated surface.

To get a shine on your pitfired wares why not use terra sigillata on the
bone-dry wares before bisque-firing? To find out all about what terra
sigillata is and how to make it and use it go to my article at Tony Hansen's
Ditigalfire website at www.digitalfire.com/education/glaze/terasig.htm

After firing your polished terra sigillata-treated wares you can harden the
surface and increase the luster slightly with a natural oil/wax based
finish, applied very lightly and buffed into the surface immediately. I
have had good luck with Lemon Pledge, but be sure to buff it immediately.
Some other natural oil or wax finishes used on wood furniture work well, but
do not use paste wax made for floors, because it sometimes leaves a pasty
white residue on clay. Also avoid any wax or oil finishes that have
quick-dry additives.

Natural oil/wax finishes applied very thinly and buffed immediately do not
change the character of the surface - they just accentuate the lustrous
satin shine.
Good luck -
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
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Ronda Clark on fri 5 oct 01


Hello Lajos,
A lot of people use Johnson's Floor wax found in stores where regular floor
wax is sold. I use an clear acrylic spray sold at Walmart for $.99. I do not
want my pots shiny so just use a light coat but if you want them shiny just
spray more on them--maybe two coats would be better than one. It also helps
keep the pinks I get from copper from oxidizing off the pots.
Good Luck
Ronda Clark

Marta M. Gloviczki on fri 5 oct 01


vince pitelka wrote:


>First of all, I would be cautious of using acrylic wax on any ceramic
piece.
>When you use such material, you get a surface that no longer looks like
clay
>or slip or glaze.

thank you vince!
now i know, why some pots feel like they were made out of anything else but
clay. sometimes they even look like plastic...
when you touch it, it just doesnt feel right.
cheers,
marta

http://users.skynet.be/russel.fouts/Marta.htm

Anita M. Swan on fri 5 oct 01


I have burnished and unburnished areas on my pitfired work. Anyone know what kind
of effect the acrylic floor wax has on unburnished areas? I like the idea of
enhancing shine - I currently use Johnson's Paste wax, but only on the burnished
areas. Guess I'll have to get some Future and try it out. Nita

John Guerin wrote:

> In a message dated 10/3/01 10:49:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
> kamo@VIRTUALMAGICUSA.COM writes:
>
> << I've pit fired a couple of small pots, and would like to apply some kind
> of finish to them. I've read in the archives that people use acrylic wax to
> do that, but my local art store doesn't have acrylic wax. Where can I get
> some?
> Also: is there any other method to give these pots some kind of shiny
> finish? >>
>
> Liquid floor wax is acrylic and it is available at your supermarket. I use
> JASCO TILE GLOSS AND SEAL available at Home Depot. It is a very good acrylic
> sealer. Apply it in several thin coats with a clean cloth. Apply in thin
> coats because it dries very quickly. It not only seals and leaves a shiny
> finish but also enhances the colors.
>
> John Guerin
> Tucson, AZ
>
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Lajos Kamocsay on mon 8 oct 01


Hello,

Thanks for all the suggestions! I'm so glad I've found this group, such an
amazing source of information!

Thanks,
Lajos

ps. Oh, and I'm Hungarian...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lajos Kamocsay"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:53 PM
Subject: pit firing - acrylic wax?


Hello,

I've pit fired a couple of small pots, and would like to apply some kind of
finish to them. I've read in the archives that people use acrylic wax to do
that, but my local art store doesn't have acrylic wax. Where can I get some?
Also: is there any other method to give these pots some kind of shiny
finish?

Thanks,
Lajos

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Monica Klement on mon 8 oct 01


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