Patti Kratzke on fri 12 oct 01
Very thin rubber gloves might work well, if you can get them to fit well
enough. But be very careful about mentioning gloves to students (which
could be taken as a suggestions or recommendation), or supplying gloves.
Most of the very thin gloves sold by the box in drug stores are latex.
More and more people these days have latex allergies, and can also react
to the powder used inside the gloves. Hypoallergenic gloves are sold,
but again some people still react to them. Also, if you use the same
pair of gloves over and over in a moist environment, you could get
problems from that, as well. Use of moisturizers together with gloves
can make reactions worse. Some people have had anaphylactic (life
threatening) reactions to gloves. In short, I'd hate to have one of your
students have a reaction to gloves they used following your suggestion.
It's a litigious world, and being a teacher carries its own set of
liabilities.
From what you described, the student's reaction sounded more like a
nuisance than any kind of allergic reaction that would lead to problems.
The best thing he/she could do is to see their own doctor about it if
they are worried. I don't see any down side in suggesting that.
On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 15:09:09 +0200 Waltraud Koestler
writes:
I've got very dry Skin. After hours of throwing my hands are very
shrivelled. Therefore I use very thin rubbergloves. It works well,
but can be a problem when I use clay with "basaltspecks"...
Waltraud
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vince pitelka on fri 12 oct 01
How about glove allergy? I have never experienced any negative skin
reaction to any ceramic materials, other than plain old dry skin. But if=
I
wear ANY kind of rubber gloves I break out in a terrible rash which requi=
res
cortozone cream treatments.
I suppose it is possible that some people might have allergies to specifi=
c
ceramic materials which might cause more severe responses than the gloves
themselves, but in terms of toxicity, none of the standard ceramic materi=
als
can be absorbed through the skin in amounts which could be considered tox=
ic.
They are simply too coarse, and the ones which are water soluble are not
particularly toxic. I am talking about the standard ceramic materials he=
re.
If you get into copper sulfate or potassium dichromate, then you are deal=
ing
with materials which ARE dangerous in skin absorption. The standard cera=
mic
materials are not.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
----- Original Message -----
From: Patti Kratzke
To:
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: clay allergy and gloves
> Very thin rubber gloves might work well, if you can get them to fit wel=
l
> enough. But be very careful about mentioning gloves to students (which
> could be taken as a suggestions or recommendation), or supplying gloves.
> Most of the very thin gloves sold by the box in drug stores are latex.
> More and more people these days have latex allergies, and can also reac=
t
> to the powder used inside the gloves. Hypoallergenic gloves are sold,
> but again some people still react to them. Also, if you use the same
> pair of gloves over and over in a moist environment, you could get
> problems from that, as well. Use of moisturizers together with gloves
> can make reactions worse. Some people have had anaphylactic (life
> threatening) reactions to gloves. In short, I'd hate to have one of yo=
ur
> students have a reaction to gloves they used following your suggestion.
> It's a litigious world, and being a teacher carries its own set of
> liabilities.
>
> From what you described, the student's reaction sounded more like a
> nuisance than any kind of allergic reaction that would lead to problems.
> The best thing he/she could do is to see their own doctor about it if
> they are worried. I don't see any down side in suggesting that.
>
>
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 15:09:09 +0200 Waltraud Koestler
> writes:
>
> I've got very dry Skin. After hours of throwing my hands are very
> shrivelled. Therefore I use very thin rubbergloves. It works well,
> but can be a problem when I use clay with "basaltspecks"...
>
>
> Waltraud
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.planet-b.net - Das Internetportal f=FCr Bertelsmann-Mitarbei=
ter
> und Ihre Familien.
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>
> Patti Kratzke
> Kingston, WA
> pkpotts@juno.com
>
>
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Martin Howard on sat 13 oct 01
Over here we can get Hemp Hand Cream, made by Bodyshop.
I expect that the States are still opposed to Hemp products being produced
within the country, so you may have trouble getting it. But it works a treat
to keep hands smooth and free from cracking and dryness.
Another method is to use urine as a hand wash morning and evening. You will
be surprised how any blemishes disappear and the skin renews itself.
The urine is the body's own homeopathic remedy, as I have posted so many
times before.
Martin Howard
Webb's Cottage Pottery
Woolpits Road, Great Saling
BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
England
martin@webbscottage.co.uk
http://www.webbscottage.co.uk
This web-site is about to be updated.
Nevin Murtha on sat 13 oct 01
Lots of people are allergic to latex. Surgical type gloves are now
available made of nitrile. Not only is nitrile less likely to cause an
analogy it is totally non pourous and very chemically resistant. I would
also suggest that people use talcum powder if they are going to use gloves
for any period of time. Some surgical gloves come pre powdered. I do not
know if any nitrile gloves are available this way.
-----Original Message-----
From: vince pitelka
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Friday, October 12, 2001 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: clay allergy and gloves
How about glove allergy? I have never experienced any negative skin
reaction to any ceramic materials, other than plain old dry skin. But if I
wear ANY kind of rubber gloves I break out in a terrible rash which requires
cortozone cream treatments.
I suppose it is possible that some people might have allergies to specific
ceramic materials which might cause more severe responses than the gloves
themselves, but in terms of toxicity, none of the standard ceramic materials
can be absorbed through the skin in amounts which could be considered toxic.
They are simply too coarse, and the ones which are water soluble are not
particularly toxic. I am talking about the standard ceramic materials here.
If you get into copper sulfate or potassium dichromate, then you are dealing
with materials which ARE dangerous in skin absorption. The standard ceramic
materials are not.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
----- Original Message -----
From: Patti Kratzke
To:
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: clay allergy and gloves
> Very thin rubber gloves might work well, if you can get them to fit well
> enough. But be very careful about mentioning gloves to students (which
> could be taken as a suggestions or recommendation), or supplying gloves.
> Most of the very thin gloves sold by the box in drug stores are latex.
> More and more people these days have latex allergies, and can also react
> to the powder used inside the gloves. Hypoallergenic gloves are sold,
> but again some people still react to them. Also, if you use the same
> pair of gloves over and over in a moist environment, you could get
> problems from that, as well. Use of moisturizers together with gloves
> can make reactions worse. Some people have had anaphylactic (life
> threatening) reactions to gloves. In short, I'd hate to have one of your
> students have a reaction to gloves they used following your suggestion.
> It's a litigious world, and being a teacher carries its own set of
> liabilities.
>
> From what you described, the student's reaction sounded more like a
> nuisance than any kind of allergic reaction that would lead to problems.
> The best thing he/she could do is to see their own doctor about it if
> they are worried. I don't see any down side in suggesting that.
>
>
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 15:09:09 +0200 Waltraud Koestler
> writes:
>
> I've got very dry Skin. After hours of throwing my hands are very
> shrivelled. Therefore I use very thin rubbergloves. It works well,
> but can be a problem when I use clay with "basaltspecks"...
>
>
> Waltraud
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.planet-b.net - Das Internetportal für Bertelsmann-Mitarbeiter
> und Ihre Familien.
> _________________________________________________________________________
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>
>
> Patti Kratzke
> Kingston, WA
> pkpotts@juno.com
>
>
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william schran on sun 14 oct 01
Vince said:
>"How about glove allergy? I have never experienced any negative skin
>reaction to any ceramic materials, other than plain old dry skin. But if I
>wear ANY kind of rubber gloves I break out in a terrible rash which requires
>cortozone cream treatments."
Vince - You probably have a latex allergy and should ban the use of
latex products in your studio before it gets worse. I had a student
who became progressively worse (more extreme reactions) over time to
latex, to the point that he could not be in the same room. My
studio/classroom has changed to vinyl or Nitril gloves.
Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
vince pitelka on sun 14 oct 01
> Vince - You probably have a latex allergy and should ban the use of
> latex products in your studio before it gets worse. I had a student
> who became progressively worse (more extreme reactions) over time to
> latex, to the point that he could not be in the same room. My
> studio/classroom has changed to vinyl or Nitril gloves.
Bill -
Thanks for the suggestion. I have no reaction to latex specifically. And
fortunately I rarely encounter situations where I need to wear rubber gloves
any more. If I do, I only wear them for brief periods, I use cotton liners,
and I always wash the liners between uses. I used to have a terrible
problem with skin rashes if I worked in rubber gloves no matter what kind of
gloves I tried - didn't matter if they were latex, neoprene or whatever.
In my thirty years of studio experience I have never encountered anyone who
was allergic to any ceramic materials. That certainly does not exclude the
possibility, but it seems a pretty rare condition.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
Cindy Strnad on mon 15 oct 01
Dear Vince,
Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, and
if (as I'm sure you have) you've already tried it.
Many people are allergic to the talcum powder used
to make surgical gloves slip easily on to the
hands. In the bad old days when I worked in
hospital units, we used to have hypo-allergenic
gloves available for the afflicted. These were
different only in that they contained no powdered
lubricants.
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
cindy@earthen-vessels-pottery.com
http://www.earthen-vessels-pottery.com
Des Howard on mon 15 oct 01
Martin
Synthetically produced urea, a protein metabolite found in urine, is used as a
moistening/softening agent in skin creams.
Over here the oldtimers swore by urine as a toughening agent for hands especially
when using axes, picks & shovels.
I always thought they were trying to explain away clumsy toileting habits
Des
must be something about Northern Hemisphere autumns, brings on the urine posts,
check Clayart Archives & see what I mean.
Martin Howard wrote:
> Another method is to use urine as a hand wash morning and evening. You will
> be surprised how any blemishes disappear and the skin renews itself.
> The urine is the body's own homeopathic remedy, as I have posted so many
> times before.
--
Des & Jan Howard
Lue Pottery
LUE NSW 2850
Australia
Ph/Fax 02 6373 6419
http://www.luepottery.hwy.com.au
Dennis E. Tobin on mon 15 oct 01
Cindy
I have had students that were allergic to latex / rubber, so for years now
I have been buying nitrile gloves from Lab Safety. They are a bit more
expensive.
Dennis Tobin
>Dear Vince,
>
>Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, and
>if (as I'm sure you have) you've already tried it.
>Many people are allergic to the talcum powder used
>to make surgical gloves slip easily on to the
>hands. In the bad old days when I worked in
>hospital units, we used to have hypo-allergenic
>gloves available for the afflicted. These were
>different only in that they contained no powdered
>lubricants.
>
>Cindy Strnad
>Earthen Vessels Pottery
>RR 1, Box 51
>Custer, SD 57730
>USA
>cindy@earthen-vessels-pottery.com
>http://www.earthen-vessels-pottery.com
>
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