Brad Sondahl on thu 18 oct 01
Does anyone have experience using commercially produced plate setters at
high fire temps? I've thought they might be a space saver, when doing
lots of plates, but figure that when you fire to cone 10 the ware pretty
much conforms to the shape it's set on, so there would be a lot of
warpage of ware, and the setters probably start to slump themselves
fairly quickly.
TIA
Brad Sondahl
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Ceramic Design Group on thu 18 oct 01
on 10/18/01 8:04 AM, Brad Sondahl at bsondahl@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
> Does anyone have experience using commercially produced plate setters at
> high fire temps? I've thought they might be a space saver, when doing
> lots of plates, but figure that when you fire to cone 10 the ware pretty
> much conforms to the shape it's set on, so there would be a lot of
> warpage of ware, and the setters probably start to slump themselves
> fairly quickly.
> TIA
We use Gimson brand cordierite plate setters from England. We have them in
various diameters. The spacers, or legs, can either be refractory cemented
to the plates themselves or just built up.
We have our originals dated from the 1980s or so as as well as lots of new
ones and they have with stood the test of use and abuse in our facility for
these many years. They are an incredible space savings system.
I would be weary of the ones that have integral feet. The Gimson brand hare
totally adjustable and very use friendly. You can purchase them from
Highwater Clays in NC or Clay Art Center in WA.
Good Luck
Jonathan
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Jennifer F Boyer on thu 18 oct 01
I've had good luck at cone 10/11 with high alumina disk plate
setters from Bailey Pottery Equipment:
http://baileypottery.com.
They come with separate little posts. They have not warped at
all. I had some others that looked like a triangle with attached
posts at the corners. They warped like crazy.
I use plate setters ALL the time.
Jennifer
Brad Sondahl wrote:
>
> Does anyone have experience using commercially produced plate setters at
> high fire temps? I've thought they might be a space saver, when doing
> lots of plates, but figure that when you fire to cone 10 the ware pretty
> much conforms to the shape it's set on, so there would be a lot of
> warpage of ware, and the setters probably start to slump themselves
> fairly quickly.
> TIA
> Brad Sondahl
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Jim Bob Salazar on thu 18 oct 01
brad,
i used plate setters this past summer during an internship at the ceramic design
group in steamboat colorado. i had never used or knew plate setters were fired to
high fire temp. it was very cool and a huge space saver. i fired 25 dinner plates
and 20 salad plates and felt very confident about the stack and the space usage.
get in touch with JONATHAN KAPLAN www.ceramicdesigngroup.net "he da man".
jim bob
Brad Sondahl wrote:
> Does anyone have experience using commercially produced plate setters at
> high fire temps? I've thought they might be a space saver, when doing
> lots of plates, but figure that when you fire to cone 10 the ware pretty
> much conforms to the shape it's set on, so there would be a lot of
> warpage of ware, and the setters probably start to slump themselves
> fairly quickly.
> TIA
> Brad Sondahl
> --
> For original art, music, pottery, and literature, visit my homepage
> http://pages.about.com/bsondahl
> Pottery homepage http://sondahl.freeyellow.com
> New music site at mp3.com http://www.mp3.com/sondahl
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WHC228@AOL.COM on thu 18 oct 01
Brad
I have tried several brands of setters without very much success. I got some
from Stoke on Trent from several different companies, and as you suspected
they eventually began to warp. They seemed like a good idea when I first got
them, but it didn't take long before I tossed them. I did get some from
Germany and some others from FERRO here in the USA and they were not
satisfactory either.
There are some plate setter systems that are made of nitride bonded silicon
carbide that are wonderful. I saw some at the Homer Lauchlen [sp?] factory in
Ohio and they are really nice, however very expensive. They were firing their
kilns only half full of ware because they couldn't afford to buy enough kiln
furniture all at once.
I suspect that if you could fire at a slightly lower temperature you could
use them. Like cone 6 or 7.
Bill
MaryBeth Bishop on fri 19 oct 01
Just to underline Jonathan's caution about the plate sitters with integral
feet. I have used both those and the ones with separate, and varying height
feet. The problem with the integral ones is that if a foot gets chipped or
broken it can't be replaced. Both stand up well over time at cone 10 by my
experience.
Mary Beth Bishop
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