Linda Shaver on sun 28 oct 01
Hello
long ago I read on the clay art site about someone using mason stains on
wet to leather hard clay. they were using it as you might a water color
washing.
Did anyone else read or try this?
thanks
Linda
Springfield, Or.
Earl Brunner on mon 29 oct 01
Some times I just use EasyStroke underglaze, many of them work well at
high temperature, if I'm using a commercial stain or oxide, I mix it
with a bit of Coleman Porcelain (always have some around) makes a nice
white base and gives the oxide some body.
Wanda Holmes at Alistia wrote:
> How do you prepare the commercial stains? Mix w/water only, with water and
> a bit of frit????? w.
>
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> Behalf Of Earl Brunner
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 8:41 AM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: mason stains on wet clay
>
>
> I like to do brushwork on pots in the "wet" stage before removing from
> the wheel, if I mess up, I just sponge or rib off and try again, the
> stains (either commercial or homemade engobes and oxides) brush on so
> much easier at that stage. I've also done it at the leather hard stage
> with equally nice results.
>
> Linda Shaver wrote:
>
>
>> Hello
>> long ago I read on the clay art site about someone using mason stains on
>> wet to leather hard clay. they were using it as you might a water color
>> washing.
>> Did anyone else read or try this?
>> thanks
>> Linda
>> Springfield, Or.
>>
>>
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Earl Brunner on mon 29 oct 01
I like to do brushwork on pots in the "wet" stage before removing from
the wheel, if I mess up, I just sponge or rib off and try again, the
stains (either commercial or homemade engobes and oxides) brush on so
much easier at that stage. I've also done it at the leather hard stage
with equally nice results.
Linda Shaver wrote:
> Hello
> long ago I read on the clay art site about someone using mason stains on
> wet to leather hard clay. they were using it as you might a water color
> washing.
> Did anyone else read or try this?
> thanks
> Linda
> Springfield, Or.
>
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Wanda Holmes at Alistia on mon 29 oct 01
How do you prepare the commercial stains? Mix w/water only, with water and
a bit of frit????? w.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On
Behalf Of Earl Brunner
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 8:41 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: mason stains on wet clay
I like to do brushwork on pots in the "wet" stage before removing from
the wheel, if I mess up, I just sponge or rib off and try again, the
stains (either commercial or homemade engobes and oxides) brush on so
much easier at that stage. I've also done it at the leather hard stage
with equally nice results.
Linda Shaver wrote:
> Hello
> long ago I read on the clay art site about someone using mason stains on
> wet to leather hard clay. they were using it as you might a water color
> washing.
> Did anyone else read or try this?
> thanks
> Linda
> Springfield, Or.
>
>
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Martin Howard on wed 31 oct 01
Are Spectrum stains available in the UK?
Martin Howard
Webbs Cottage Pottery
Woolpits Road, Great Saling
BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
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Robert Dye on wed 31 oct 01
I had a discussion yesterday with my supplier, Runyan, located in Flint
Michigan. He said that the stains, "Spectrum" came into existance because
of the reluctance of Mason stains to publish sufficient info to determine
the safety of their stains, and that for all intents and purpose, the
Spectrum line of stains is very similiar to the Mason line. I am not an
expert in this area, therefore I am relying on second-hand information, if
someone from this list who is an expert could check it out it would benefit
the rest of us. Bob Dye
miriam shelomith on wed 31 oct 01
O-O...
I use stains all the time! Allows me color with only a clear glaze...
If one puts a clear food safe glaze over mason stains, or other brand of
stains, does that seal in whatever might be in the stain??? Or, does it
have to be retested to make sure it remains safe for use with food?
pottermim
>From: Robert Dye
Subject: Re: mason stains on wet clay
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:33:39 -0500
>>I had a discussion yesterday with my supplier, Runyan, located in Flint
>Michigan. He said that the stains, "Spectrum" came into existance because
>of the reluctance of Mason stains to publish sufficient info to determine
>the safety of their stains, and that for all intents and purpose, the
>Spectrum line of stains is very similiar to the Mason line. I am not an
>expert in this area, therefore I am relying on second-hand information, if
>someone from this list who is an expert could check it out it would benefit
>the rest of us. Bob Dye
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Ababi on wed 31 oct 01
---------- Original Message ----------
>O-O...
>I use stains all the time! Allows me color with only a clear glaze...
Try under this glaze
Waxy white it is clear but kind of fuzzy.
Waxy White ^6
=============
QUARTZ.............. 23.50 23.50%
ENGLISH KAOLIN CC31. 14.90 14.90%
NEPHELINE SYENITE... 14.50 14.50%
WOLLASTONITE........ 37.20 37.20%
GERSTLEY BORATE..... 9.90 9.90%
========
100.00
CaO 0.87* 21.12%
MgO 0.02* 0.38%
K2O 0.03* 1.20%
Na2O 0.08* 2.19%
TiO2 0.00 0.02%
Al2O3 0.21 9.28%
B2O3 0.10 3.03%
SiO2 2.40 62.61%
Fe2O3 0.00 0.17%
Si:Al 11.45
SiB:Al 11.92
Expan 7.27
I made now a new convertion, just now in Insight.
Waxy White ^6 2
===============
NEPHELINE SYENITE... 10.3 10.30%
WOLLASTONITE........ 34.4 34.42%
FLINT............... 23.9 23.88%
EPK KAOLIN.......... 17.3 17.29%
FRIT 3134........... 12.9 12.89%
DOLOMITE............ 1.2 1.23%
========
100.0
CaO 0.87* 21.30%
MgO 0.02* 0.30%
K2O 0.01* 0.58%
Na2O 0.09* 2.53%
TiO2 0.00 0.07%
Al2O3 0.21 9.31%
B2O3 0.10 3.10%
P2O5 0.00 0.05%
SiO2 2.40 62.61%
Fe2O3 0.00 0.15%
Si:Al 11.41
SiB:Al 11.90
Expan 7.23
Ababi Sharon
Kibbutz Shoval- Israel
Glaze addict
sharon@shoval.org.il
http://members4.clubphoto.com/ababi306910/
http://www.milkywayceramics.com/cgallery/asharon.htm
http://www.israelceramics.org/
Ababi on sat 29 nov 03
---------- Original Message ----------
>O-O...
>I use stains all the time! Allows me color with only a clear glaze...
Try under this glaze
Waxy white it is clear but kind of fuzzy.
Waxy White ^6
=============
QUARTZ.............. 23.50 23.50%
ENGLISH KAOLIN CC31. 14.90 14.90%
NEPHELINE SYENITE... 14.50 14.50%
WOLLASTONITE........ 37.20 37.20%
GERSTLEY BORATE..... 9.90 9.90%
========
100.00
CaO 0.87* 21.12%
MgO 0.02* 0.38%
K2O 0.03* 1.20%
Na2O 0.08* 2.19%
TiO2 0.00 0.02%
Al2O3 0.21 9.28%
B2O3 0.10 3.03%
SiO2 2.40 62.61%
Fe2O3 0.00 0.17%
Si:Al 11.45
SiB:Al 11.92
Expan 7.27
I made now a new convertion, just now in Insight.
Waxy White ^6 2
===============
NEPHELINE SYENITE... 10.3 10.30%
WOLLASTONITE........ 34.4 34.42%
FLINT............... 23.9 23.88%
EPK KAOLIN.......... 17.3 17.29%
FRIT 3134........... 12.9 12.89%
DOLOMITE............ 1.2 1.23%
========
100.0
CaO 0.87* 21.30%
MgO 0.02* 0.30%
K2O 0.01* 0.58%
Na2O 0.09* 2.53%
TiO2 0.00 0.07%
Al2O3 0.21 9.31%
B2O3 0.10 3.10%
P2O5 0.00 0.05%
SiO2 2.40 62.61%
Fe2O3 0.00 0.15%
Si:Al 11.41
SiB:Al 11.90
Expan 7.23
Ababi Sharon
Kibbutz Shoval- Israel
Glaze addict
sharon@shoval.org.il
http://members4.clubphoto.com/ababi306910/
http://www.milkywayceramics.com/cgallery/asharon.htm
http://www.israelceramics.org/
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