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housebrick + fiber gas kiln?

updated sat 10 nov 01

 

Tommy Humphries on wed 7 nov 01


Possible, yes...practical I don't know.

The kilns you refer to are constructed the way they are, to provide easy
anchoring points for the fiber. Using clay "buttons" and hi-temp wires you
can easily attach the fiber to the "chicken wire" frame, or to holes
drilled in the barrel. To line the brick frame as you want, the fiber would
need to be cemented in with some type of adhesive...sairset for example.

Fiber kilns are easy to construct with any metal frame with enough holes to
allow good anchorage. Wouldn't want to make the job any harder than you
need too! :^)

Tommy


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lajos Kamocsay"
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Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 7:12 PM
Subject: housebrick + fiber gas kiln?


Hello,

I was looking at some fiber gas kiln designs. Most use a barrel or chicken
wire to hold the "kiln".
Would it be possible to build the shape of the kiln from regular house
bricks and line it with fiber insulation from the inside?

Lajos

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Lajos Kamocsay on wed 7 nov 01


Hello,

I was looking at some fiber gas kiln designs. Most use a barrel or =
chicken wire to hold the "kiln".=20
Would it be possible to build the shape of the kiln from regular house =
bricks and line it with fiber insulation from the inside?

Lajos

Isao & Don on fri 9 nov 01


At 17:12 11/7/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I was looking at some fiber gas kiln designs. Most use a barrel or chicken
wire to hold the "kiln".
>Would it be possible to build the shape of the kiln from regular house
bricks and line it with fiber insulation from the inside?
>
>Lajos, I do not know where you are but, there was a soft,red brick
somewhat smaller than standard brick. This was known as Spanish brick and
carried in the hold of ships as ballast. While I doubt this is obtainable
as new brick, often it can be found where older buildings are being razed.
Oddly, I recieved an E-mail from a friend this evening,asking
exactly the same question. For the past few years we have been
kicking-around an idea for a community bread-baking oven. This would have
sheet metal on the outside,followed by Spanish brick and, quite possibly
lined with Fibre, although I believe this to be somewhat 'tender' for the
rough usage of many persons baking bread. Good luck. Don & Isao
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Hank Murrow on fri 9 nov 01


Lajos asked;

>>Would it be possible to build the shape of the kiln from regular house
>bricks and line it with fiber insulation from the inside?
>>
Don & Isao replied;

For the past few years we have been
>kicking-around an idea for a community bread-baking oven. This would have
>sheet metal on the outside,followed by Spanish brick and, quite possibly
>lined with Fibre, although I believe this to be somewhat 'tender' for the
>rough usage of many persons baking bread. Good luck.


And Hank weighs in;

The 'tender' part is a genuine concern, but even more important is
that you would lose the heat mass of the brick, which is vital to the quick
rising of the bread. The reason those masonry ovens make good bread IS the
thermal mass, and its ability to retain full heat, even though loaded with
many loaves of (relatively) cool bread. Better for bread IMHO would be to
surround the masonry with fiber to make it fire more efficiently.

Now for pots, that's another story.

Regards, Hank