Klyf Brown on thu 15 nov 01
This is what I have seen in commercial pots too. I have a couple of
Bonsai post made by diffirent friends that do not fit this mold. One has
an outrageous lip 90 degrees out and wide. It is glazed in stripes that
run across the pot, most stripes left unglazed.
A few clayarters put up some links to sites recently and many that I
visited featured some very nicely glazed Bonsai pots. Full glaze.
I think the foot is a "requirement". Maybe it has something to do with
drainage and air circulation? The couple of them that I made recently
did not look right to me until I fassioned some feet fot it. It must be
ingrained in me. I have seen some tall Bonsai pots (cascade) that did
not have feet. The feet also make the pot "float". (I like pots that
float).
I think the shallowness is due to the fact that the roots are also pruned
and kept small (reflecting the upper structure of the tree). The shallow
pot doesn't allow much room for growth, stunting the tree.
All the above is my own theory and speculation and has nothing to do
with Real Bonsai.
I am going with Cindy on this one and not paying attention to tradition
and rules. Nuveau Bonsai. Free Bonsai.
Klyf Brown in a suddenly cold desert (what the hell happened to my
warm autumn?)
11/15/01 6:46:38 AM, Phyllis Tilton
wrote:
>A question that I have about the bonsai pots is the clay used. Most
of the commercial ones that I have seen are a very dark brown and
not glazed. Many of them are footed and shallow. The clay also
seems to be very dense. Maybe this has been answered before and I
have not come upon the message--so I will keep reading.......
>
>Phyllis Tilton
Phyllis Tilton on thu 15 nov 01
Klyf: I know--you wrote about this on Nov 5 and I am just reading it and answereing. Some day I will get caught up. I keep plugging away because I don't want to miss any messages--I delete lots but still find the 'gems' that teach me..
You mentioned the care needed in handling cactus when repotting. Roll a newspaper or fold it into a length that will go around the cactus with enough length to let you hold on. This lets you use your other hand to balance, lift and place in the other pot without having to touch the spines or needles. Cloth can also be used -old towel, whatever. Newspaper can be disposed of and will not retain any of the ouchy things. Another tip about removing the ouchies if accidentally touching--use scotch or masking tape. It pulls lots of that stuff off. Sometimes, soaking the hands in warm water and then using the tape--will make the spines swell and easier to see and remover. I seem to have had lots of experience with this (:<( and have a magnifying glass to find the little buggers.
A question that I have about the bonsai pots is the clay used. Most of the commercial ones that I have seen are a very dark brown and not glazed. Many of them are footed and shallow. The clay also seems to be very dense. Maybe this has been answered before and I have not come upon the message--so I will keep reading.......
Phyllis Tilton
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Cindy Strnad on fri 16 nov 01
Hi, Klyff.
You mentioned something about using multiple
drainage holes as opposed to one or two large ones
for a bonsai pot. That sounds like an excellent
idea to me. I always wondered how on earth they
got the screen off the roots without causing
damage. Is there any formula for how much drainage
area a given sized pot will require? Should the
holes be placed in any particular location? Say,
mostly under the spot where I think the tree
should be planted?
I've ordered a couple of books on the subject, but
if you could help me out in the mean time, I'd
really appreciate it. Got a pot ready for drainage
holes and my electric drill is poised . . .
(probably not kosher, that electric drill, but
they work so well)
Thanks,
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
cindy@earthen-vessels-pottery.com
http://www.earthen-vessels-pottery.com
Klyf Brown on sun 18 nov 01
There was a post by Louis Fontanills on the 16th that pretty well nails
it. I have been using a 9/16" twist drill operated by hand on the green
pot. It was someone else on list that suggested the "collendar" effect. I
havn't made up my mind if I like the idea or if there is something
wrong with having so many holes. In the mean time I will stick with the
big holes and cover them with a shard.
Klyf Brown In NM
11/16/01 8:08:11 AM, Cindy Strnad
wrote:
>Hi, Klyff.
>
>You mentioned something about using multiple
>drainage holes as opposed to one or two large ones
>for a bonsai pot. That sounds like an excellent
>idea to me. I always wondered how on earth they
>got the screen off the roots without causing
>damage. Is there any formula for how much drainage
>area a given sized pot will require? Should the
>holes be placed in any particular location? Say,
>mostly under the spot where I think the tree
>should be planted?
>
>
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