Cindy Strnad on tue 20 nov 01
Hello, Sue.
Do really get a *competent* electrician to look at
your kiln situation, and *don't* try to plug it in
to an extension cord. Remember--competent--that
doesn't mean any bozo clutching a piece of paper
that says "journeyman" on it. Get solid
recommendations before hiring him/her. A kiln is
not an electric toaster. If installed badly, it
will make your insurance carrier take up
nail-biting again.
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
cindy@earthen-vessels-pottery.com
http://www.earthen-vessels-pottery.com
Roger Korn on wed 21 nov 01
No, DON'T try to run it on any kind of extension cord. You would need #8 cable to
go even 50 feet. Figure out where you want to put the kiln (on at least a brick pad
with air space under), and a couple of feet from anything else. 2400 degrees F is
HOT. To try it out and see if it works, you could plug it in, but only for a few
minutes. Any thing more requires planning for the installation and having a
competent kiln person or qualified electrician who knows about kilns do the wiring.
Also, get somebody who knows to look at your set-up. Fires are no fun at all.
All of this needs to be considered for ANY kiln installation. Where are you
located? Maybe someone on the list could help.
Hope this helps,
Roger Korn
McKay Creek Ceramics
In AZ: 928-567-5699 <-
In OR: 503-647-5464
putitinink@YAHOO.COM wrote:
> Hi -- Yes, it has a plug that will fit the receptacle that my
> washer/dryer plugs into. The washer/dryer is listed as 21.5 amps, so
> I'm figuring that it must be wired *at the least* above 25 amps (the
> kiln is 24 amps).
>
> It has two knobs labelled Low/Med/High (plus the timer with the
> duration in hours marked).
>
> Thanks for the help (AND the reassurance!!), as soon as I can get
> someone to help me carry it into the house, I'll try it out. Can't
> wait!! It's currently in my van and it's too heavy for one person to
> lift. Also, there is literally no room for it to sit in the space
> near the washer/dryer so I have no idea where to put it and I'm going
> to need an extention cord to boot.
>
> All I've found out so far on this brand of kilns is that there's a
> company called King that sells one part that fits one model in this
> brand.
>
> Thanks again.
> Sue
>
> From: Roger Korn
> Date: Mon Nov 19, 2001 1:52 pm
> Subject: Re: Superfire kiln w/Dawson kilnsitter - any info?
>
> Does the power cable have a plug? Or is it meant to be hardwired,
> that is,permanently connected to the power source? Either way, you
> will need a 30 amp circuit with circuit breaker and the appropriate
> recepticle (if it has a plug)or connection to an electrical box (if
> it is meant to be hardwired), Either you, if you have the knowledge,
> a knowledgeable friend, or a hired electrician can set this up.
> Does it have switches (ON/OFF) or infinite heat controllers (knobs,
> typically LOW/MED/HI or 1 ->10 on the dial)?
>
> In any case, I'd hook it up and check it out. The circuit breaker
> will protect you from short-circuits, and the only other hazard is a
> bad grounding connection. If you feel unsure about anything, give me
> an email or a phone call and I'll be happy to talk you through it.
> Remember, an electric kiln is just a big electric toaster!
>
> Roger Korn
> McKay Creek Ceramics
> rogerk1941@e...
> In AZ: 928-567-5699 <-
> In OR: 503-647-5464
>
> putitinink@Y... wrote:
>
> > I've already checked the clayart archives and found nothing on
> > Superfire kilns. Can anyone give me any info on these kilns or tell
> > me where to find it?
> >
> > I just got an old kiln, at least 15, maybe 20 years old, that looks
> > like it's never been fired. It is a Superfire kiln -- and yes, I've
> > checked it over carefully and can find no other manufacturer's name,
> > it's gotta be a Superfire kiln, as far as I can tell. It's marked
> > Superfire in two places, with Model #0180P W5520; Volts 110-230;
> Amps
> > 24 (actually listed as 24.1 P); max temp 2300. It has a Superfire
> > pyrometer made by Reward Ceramics Color mfrs and a Dawson
> Kilnsitter,
> > model LT 3K, 240 VAC, 45 Amps, 60 HZ.
> >
> >>>>>>>>>
>
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putitinink@YAHOO.COM on wed 21 nov 01
Hi -- Yes, it has a plug that will fit the receptacle that my
washer/dryer plugs into. The washer/dryer is listed as 21.5 amps, so
I'm figuring that it must be wired *at the least* above 25 amps (the
kiln is 24 amps).
It has two knobs labelled Low/Med/High (plus the timer with the
duration in hours marked).
Thanks for the help (AND the reassurance!!), as soon as I can get
someone to help me carry it into the house, I'll try it out. Can't
wait!! It's currently in my van and it's too heavy for one person to
lift. Also, there is literally no room for it to sit in the space
near the washer/dryer so I have no idea where to put it and I'm going
to need an extention cord to boot.
All I've found out so far on this brand of kilns is that there's a
company called King that sells one part that fits one model in this
brand.
Thanks again.
Sue
From: Roger Korn
Date: Mon Nov 19, 2001 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: Superfire kiln w/Dawson kilnsitter - any info?
Does the power cable have a plug? Or is it meant to be hardwired,
that is,permanently connected to the power source? Either way, you
will need a 30 amp circuit with circuit breaker and the appropriate
recepticle (if it has a plug)or connection to an electrical box (if
it is meant to be hardwired), Either you, if you have the knowledge,
a knowledgeable friend, or a hired electrician can set this up.
Does it have switches (ON/OFF) or infinite heat controllers (knobs,
typically LOW/MED/HI or 1 ->10 on the dial)?
In any case, I'd hook it up and check it out. The circuit breaker
will protect you from short-circuits, and the only other hazard is a
bad grounding connection. If you feel unsure about anything, give me
an email or a phone call and I'll be happy to talk you through it.
Remember, an electric kiln is just a big electric toaster!
Roger Korn
McKay Creek Ceramics
rogerk1941@e...
In AZ: 928-567-5699 <-
In OR: 503-647-5464
putitinink@Y... wrote:
> I've already checked the clayart archives and found nothing on
> Superfire kilns. Can anyone give me any info on these kilns or tell
> me where to find it?
>
> I just got an old kiln, at least 15, maybe 20 years old, that looks
> like it's never been fired. It is a Superfire kiln -- and yes, I've
> checked it over carefully and can find no other manufacturer's name,
> it's gotta be a Superfire kiln, as far as I can tell. It's marked
> Superfire in two places, with Model #0180P W5520; Volts 110-230;
Amps
> 24 (actually listed as 24.1 P); max temp 2300. It has a Superfire
> pyrometer made by Reward Ceramics Color mfrs and a Dawson
Kilnsitter,
> model LT 3K, 240 VAC, 45 Amps, 60 HZ.
>
>>>>>>>>>
putitinink@YAHOO.COM on sat 24 nov 01
Thanks for the warning, but I have no intention of doing it
myself. ;) I do have a kiln stand that came with it so it will have
air space under it. I have no place in my house to put it where it
could be run. It looks like I will have to have some kind of space
built for it. (ugh) It might have to be out on the deck -- which
means building some sort of shed or enclosure to protect it from the
weather (and protect the wooden deck from the heat of the kiln), and
having an extention cord wired to run out to the deck. Or, I may
need to have a cement slab poured and put a tool shed up somewhere
with a separate electrical line.
The local pottery supply store recommended an electric company who
has installed a lot of kilns to do any wiring necessary. But I guess
I'll have to decide where it can go first.
;)
<<
Subject: Re: Superfire kiln
No, DON'T try to run it on any kind of extension cord. You would need
#8 cable
to
go even 50 feet. Figure out where you want to put the kiln (on at
least a brick
pad
with air space under), and a couple of feet from anything else. 2400
degrees F
is
HOT. To try it out and see if it works, you could plug it in, but
only for a few
minutes. Any thing more requires planning for the installation and
having a
competent kiln person or qualified electrician who knows about kilns
do the
wiring.
Also, get somebody who knows to look at your set-up. Fires are no fun
at all.
All of this needs to be considered for ANY kiln installation. Where
are you
located? Maybe someone on the list could help.
Hope this helps,
Roger Korn
McKay Creek Ceramics
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