Earl Brunner on tue 20 nov 01
One of the problems with the students that I have at the art center, and
I have a number of them that are quite serious about clay, is that for
the most part they have no formal art/design education. It can be
difficult getting them to approach their work from that angle. They
don't have the language or concepts ( and I don't mean artsy fartsy
lingo) to understand sometimes what I'm trying to tell them when I try
to approach a design problem with them. I have to balance what I want
to teach them about good design with their personal expectations of
clay. They are hooked on clay, but don't always have the interest or
desire to put in the time and energy to take it to the next level.
I find myself relating/comparing to my own experience. Some of them
have no interest in learning about glazes or firing for example. When I
got the bug, I had to know about it all, and I wanted to do it all. ( I
remember vividly, opening the large top loader at school at near top
temperature and being fascinated by the glowing ware in the kiln. I
never did tell anyone why the stuff pinged for weeks after) The idea of
turning my stuff over to someone else to fire is so foreign now, its
hard to comprehend, yet I know at some time I just put it on the shelf
and got it back after someone else did the firing.
chris clarke wrote:
> Sorry to butt in,
>
> I just wanted to say my years in college were
> some one the most enlightening and interesting in my life.
> (although my best day is always today).
>
> To those on the list who poo-poo
> get over it.
> I can't imagine someone finding clay without
> finding it in some form of higher education.
> But do I care if someone has a degree, no
>
> Seems to be a snobbery toward people who
> did go to college. But I don't see it going the
> other way. Sounds like sour grapes to me.
>
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Earl Brunner
http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec/
bruec@anv.net
chris clarke on wed 21 nov 01
Earl Brunner said
> I have a number of them that are quite serious about clay, is that for
> the most part they have no formal art/design education. It can be
> difficult getting them to approach their work from that angle. They
> don't have the language or concepts ( and I don't mean artsy fartsy
> lingo) to understand sometimes what I'm trying to tell them when I try
> to approach a design problem with them
You hit it right there. My husband is the art director at a smallish game
company. He has several young men working for him. Few have a degree, the
ones that do have it elsewhere. They are all very talented, but they lack
the foundations of design.
Yes yes, I know what looks good, yadda, yadda, yadda. But they have a
difficult time with the approach, when he makes references they don't know
what he's talking about (he minored in art history).
We didn't just take ceramics, my degree is not a ceramics degree. They did
not bestow the name 'POTTER' on me when I graduated. No one told me I was
or would be a potter. I got an ART degree, with all the rights there in,
which are none.
chris
temecula, california
chris@ccpots.com
www.ccpots.com
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