Judith S. Labovitz on tue 4 dec 01
a discussion relative to the advantages and disadvantages of central vacuum
systems arose at our guild today. Have any of you had experiences (good
or bad) with this? Any information will be helpful!!!
many thanks
judy greater lansing potters guild
Chris Jones on tue 4 dec 01
YES....................THEY ALL SUCK!!!!!!!!
Thank you,
Chris Jones
Visit www.jonespottery.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith S. Labovitz"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 4:08 PM
Subject: central vacuum systems
> a discussion relative to the advantages and disadvantages of central
vacuum
> systems arose at our guild today. Have any of you had experiences (good
> or bad) with this? Any information will be helpful!!!
>
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
> judy greater lansing potters guild
>
>
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Chris Jones on tue 4 dec 01
Really................I have had a central vaccuum in two different homes
and they just didn't do that good of a job on carpeted areas. THey worked
well on tile and would pick up some hair and visible debris in carpet but
didn't have the sucking power to pull dirt and stuff from down in the
carpet. Also, when using it we had a tendancy to drag the hose around
corners which would rub on the floor trim and made that look bad. That was
my experience.
Thank you,
Chris Jones
Visit www.jonespottery.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith S. Labovitz"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 4:08 PM
Subject: central vacuum systems
> a discussion relative to the advantages and disadvantages of central
vacuum
> systems arose at our guild today. Have any of you had experiences (good
> or bad) with this? Any information will be helpful!!!
>
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
> judy greater lansing potters guild
>
>
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claybair on tue 4 dec 01
I have a central vac and it is wonderful. I was told by a cleaning person
that most of them are not very good but she loved mine. I guess I just got
lucky. Now if you are talking about a central vac for a studio I can't help
you as I open my garage door and mop or carefully sweep (more like slide)
the stuff out. If you are interested I can give you the name of my vac. It's
best to install it while your house is being built.
They sell covers for the hose so you do not damage woodwork. It would be
easy to sew one.
Of course there are all kinds of attachments though I didn't see a "Flo-bee"
attachment. On my vac I would worry that one could get scalped!-> Ok for
those not in the know... a Flo-bee was a hair cutting tool that you attached
to your vacuum cleaner. As I recall the commercials were hilarious.
Gayle Bair- is the barber in the family but never ha a Flo-bee
Bainbridge Island, WA
http://claybair.com
Ditmar on tue 4 dec 01
A central vacuum can be a great help in almost any type of shop or =
studio. In particular where you need to think about clay / silica dust. =
Where the main power unit is, and it's exhaust needs to be given =
consideration. Either the proper filter or if the location permits it, =
just exhausting it where there won't be an issue with contamination.
Everything is collected outside of the environment you're trying to =
clean, instead of pulling all the crud around behind you in a rolling =
container, that can re-introduce the same stuff into the room.
Rather than buying a home type central vacuum installation, a power =
filter unit like the type used at self serve car wash places can be =
better. Industrial units aren't really too expensive and can make a =
huge difference in vacuuming power. Depending on the size of the room / =
studio, there doesn't need to be any major wall piping, just use a =
longer hose.
This can offset the difference in price for the bigger motor and filter. =
If the size of the studio warrants it, just pipe in a second connector =
at the other end of the building. Using an industrial unit with more =
power makes that a good option for saving money on installation. Just =
run a 50 or 75 foot hose and put it away when done. Many are available =
in stainless steel, nice when you know they'll last long enough to =
justify buying them.
From Alohaland, Ditmar.
Margaret Barlow on tue 4 dec 01
Central Vacuum systems are wonderful, had one in my old house and
re-installed it in the new house we just built. Mine sucks up everything in
its path, and is way more powerful than a regular canister or upright vac.
re Chris's problem of not enough suction, there are two things that can
cause this. Either the central unit is under-rated for the size of the house
and length of runs or there could be a leak in the system. Leaks can be
caused by sloppy installation or careless workers stepping on a pipe etc.
I am anxious to get into my new studio and try out the central vac there. I
understand there is nothing better for sucking up the dust without blowing
it around. ......Margaret
Jennifer F Boyer on wed 5 dec 01
I use a Beam Cantral Vac in my studio, gotten from Mark Ward.
It's great. It's vented to the outside and gets the fine dust
very well. I did try hooking into a multi opening type pipe
system as is used in homes, but the suction wasn't great. Maybe
my model isn't powerful enough. But it works great just using a
30 foot hose hooked to the unit itself.
The suction is way better than the Bailey Studio Vac I had years ago.
Take Care
Jennifer
Ditmar wrote:
>
> A central vacuum can be a great help in almost any type of shop or =
> studio. In particular where you need to think about clay / silica dust. =
> Where the main power unit is, and it's exhaust needs to be given =
> consideration. Either the proper filter or if the location permits it, =
> just exhausting it where there won't be an issue with contamination.
>
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Rikki Gill on wed 5 dec 01
After some discussion last summer on the list, I installed a central vac in
my studio, but I went to some web site for these, I no longer have the site
address, sorry, and saw a listing for Galaxie vacs in Massachusetts. I
bought theirs becouse it was a kit one can install easily. I love it. It
vents outside, has a huge amount of power, came with the tank, pvc, two
outlets, 30 ft hose, tools [I opted for the cheapest tools], everything I
needed. With shipping from Mass. to Calif. it was a bit over $500. If you
need someone to install it, I have no idea how much that would be. My
studio is really clean these days. Usual disclamer applies. Rikki
-----Original Message-----
From: claybair
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: central vacuum systems
>I have a central vac and it is wonderful. I was told by a cleaning person
>that most of them are not very good but she loved mine. I guess I just got
>lucky. Now if you are talking about a central vac for a studio I can't help
>you as I open my garage door and mop or carefully sweep (more like slide)
>the stuff out. If you are interested I can give you the name of my vac.
It's
>best to install it while your house is being built.
>
>They sell covers for the hose so you do not damage woodwork. It would be
>easy to sew one.
>Of course there are all kinds of attachments though I didn't see a
"Flo-bee"
>attachment. On my vac I would worry that one could get scalped!-> Ok for
>those not in the know... a Flo-bee was a hair cutting tool that you
attached
>to your vacuum cleaner. As I recall the commercials were hilarious.
>
>Gayle Bair- is the barber in the family but never ha a Flo-bee
>Bainbridge Island, WA
>http://claybair.com
>
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Hluch - Kevin A. on wed 5 dec 01
For about $150 a central vac system can be installed in practically any
space. I installed a system on each floor of our renovated
residence/studio space. One inch and a quarter PVC pipe with
strategically located outlets connected to a shop vac in a utility
closet suffices. A three-way switch located at ends of the hall way
conveniently activates the vacuum for the two zones. I use a HEPA filter
on the studio one.
And I really does suck!...Big Time.
Commercial home vac systems are very expensive and oftentimes the warranty
is voided if used in atypical situations like ceramic studios.
Kevin A. Hluch
Professor of Art, Ceramics Coordinator
Montgomery College
Rockville, Maryland
e-mail: kahluch@umd5.umd.edu
http://www.erols.com/mhluch/mudslinger.html
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Rikki Gill wrote:
> After some discussion last summer on the list, I installed a central vac in
> my studio, but I went to some web site for these, I no longer have the site
> address, sorry, and saw a listing for Galaxie vacs in Massachusetts. I
> bought theirs becouse it was a kit one can install easily. I love it. It
> vents outside, has a huge amount of power, came with the tank, pvc, two
> outlets, 30 ft hose, tools [I opted for the cheapest tools], everything I
> needed. With shipping from Mass. to Calif. it was a bit over $500. If you
> need someone to install it, I have no idea how much that would be. My
> studio is really clean these days. Usual disclamer applies. Rikki
> -----Original Message-----
> From: claybair
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Date: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 6:16 PM
> Subject: Re: central vacuum systems
>
>
> >I have a central vac and it is wonderful. I was told by a cleaning person
> >that most of them are not very good but she loved mine. I guess I just got
> >lucky. Now if you are talking about a central vac for a studio I can't help
> >you as I open my garage door and mop or carefully sweep (more like slide)
> >the stuff out. If you are interested I can give you the name of my vac.
> It's
> >best to install it while your house is being built.
> >
> >They sell covers for the hose so you do not damage woodwork. It would be
> >easy to sew one.
> >Of course there are all kinds of attachments though I didn't see a
> "Flo-bee"
> >attachment. On my vac I would worry that one could get scalped!-> Ok for
> >those not in the know... a Flo-bee was a hair cutting tool that you
> attached
> >to your vacuum cleaner. As I recall the commercials were hilarious.
> >
> >Gayle Bair- is the barber in the family but never ha a Flo-bee
> >Bainbridge Island, WA
> >http://claybair.com
> >
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Rikki Gill on wed 5 dec 01
Kevin, for me the best part was that it vents outside the building. I was
using a Miele vacuum cleaner, but this one is way better. Crude, but
stronger. It will take the paint off the walls. And no dust. Even Hepa
leaves some residue in the building. Rikki
-----Original Message-----
From: Hluch - Kevin A.
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: central vacuum systems
>For about $150 a central vac system can be installed in practically any
>space. I installed a system on each floor of our renovated
>residence/studio space. One inch and a quarter PVC pipe with
>strategically located outlets connected to a shop vac in a utility
>closet suffices. A three-way switch located at ends of the hall way
>conveniently activates the vacuum for the two zones. I use a HEPA filter
>on the studio one.
>
>And I really does suck!...Big Time.
>
>Commercial home vac systems are very expensive and oftentimes the warranty
>is voided if used in atypical situations like ceramic studios.
>
>Kevin A. Hluch
>Professor of Art, Ceramics Coordinator
>Montgomery College
>Rockville, Maryland
>
>e-mail: kahluch@umd5.umd.edu
>http://www.erols.com/mhluch/mudslinger.html
>
>On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Rikki Gill wrote:
>
>> After some discussion last summer on the list, I installed a central vac
in
>> my studio, but I went to some web site for these, I no longer have the
site
>> address, sorry, and saw a listing for Galaxie vacs in Massachusetts. I
>> bought theirs becouse it was a kit one can install easily. I love it.
It
>> vents outside, has a huge amount of power, came with the tank, pvc, two
>> outlets, 30 ft hose, tools [I opted for the cheapest tools], everything
I
>> needed. With shipping from Mass. to Calif. it was a bit over $500. If
you
>> need someone to install it, I have no idea how much that would be. My
>> studio is really clean these days. Usual disclamer applies. Rikki
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: claybair
>> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>> Date: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 6:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: central vacuum systems
>>
>>
>> >I have a central vac and it is wonderful. I was told by a cleaning
person
>> >that most of them are not very good but she loved mine. I guess I just
got
>> >lucky. Now if you are talking about a central vac for a studio I can't
help
>> >you as I open my garage door and mop or carefully sweep (more like
slide)
>> >the stuff out. If you are interested I can give you the name of my vac.
>> It's
>> >best to install it while your house is being built.
>> >
>> >They sell covers for the hose so you do not damage woodwork. It would be
>> >easy to sew one.
>> >Of course there are all kinds of attachments though I didn't see a
>> "Flo-bee"
>> >attachment. On my vac I would worry that one could get scalped!-> Ok for
>> >those not in the know... a Flo-bee was a hair cutting tool that you
>> attached
>> >to your vacuum cleaner. As I recall the commercials were hilarious.
>> >
>> >Gayle Bair- is the barber in the family but never ha a Flo-bee
>> >Bainbridge Island, WA
>> >http://claybair.com
>> >
>>
>___________________________________________________________________________
>> ___
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>> >
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>> >settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>> >
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>> melpots@pclink.com.
>> >
>>
>>
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>
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