Kim Marie on fri 7 dec 01
In the Syracuse newspaper's computer column, a free software program to
detect viruses. both my husband and I downloaded it and it seems great. the
site is
www.grisoft.com
Kim In spring like Spafford NY where we should be under a substantial
blanket of snow!
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Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release Date: 11/24/01
m markey on fri 7 dec 01
Hi Everybody!
I've read the "virus" messages that came my way through this list. I
understand that most of the worms and other critters that afflict computers
these days, come as attachments to Email, and usually gain access to a
computer through Outlook or Outlook Express.
So my suggestion is this: Don't use Outlook! If Outlook is the only option
(some servers require it), consider going to Microsoft's website, and
getting on their update Email list. There are a number of free patches and
other safeguards that might thwart one of the "buggers" being strewn about.
Another idea I have: sign up for a free mailbox, on Yahoo! Yahoo has a free
virus scan for its customers (Both incoming and outgoing mail and
attachments can be scanned). Using Yahoo's remote email retreival, one can
upload messages from any server, and read them at a Yahoo address. Thus, you
can circumvent worms, viruses, and bugs before they go onto your hard drive.
Yahoo keeps its scanning process up to date, too.
Since the worm technology is getting moreso sophisticated, I also recommend
that everyone consider getting either a free or other virus protection for
your computers. Embedding worms into attachments is apparently becoming
pretty easy these days.
Stay alert--don't download any attachment, unless it's been thoroughly
scanned and cleaned! Any attachment with a funny extension needs to be
avoided--delete it immediately!
My two cents worth.
Best wishes!
Mohabee NakedClay@Hotmail.com
Amazingly odd weather nationwide--it's been warmer on the East Coast than it
has been in the Mojave Desert, so far in December!
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Orchard Valley Ceramic Arts Guild on sat 8 dec 01
>So my suggestion is this: Don't use Outlook! If Outlook is the only option
>(some servers require it), consider going to Microsoft's website, and
>getting on their update Email list. There are a number of free patches and
>other safeguards that might thwart one of the "buggers" being strewn about.
>
Mohabee, I couldn't agree with this more! Microsoft's e-mail products
are notorious for their security holes. Although there are patches and
work-arounds, it's almost criminal that Microsoft refuses to address
these issues.
Personally, I use Eudora as an e-mail client. There are free versions
available for Windows, Mac, and Palm. You can download the program
from www.eudora.com
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Jennifer F Boyer on sat 8 dec 01
Well, the new worms can wreak havok even WITHOUT OUTLOOK! Our
gallery computer was sending out virus emails using any address
book it could find on the hard drive: Netscape, and even a cache
file with addresses that had only been used in HOTMAIL. This was
the sircam virus. We never used Outlook, although we have it on
the computer because we need IE sometimes. I'm looking into
deleting Outlook but not IE.
Any Antivirus software is only as good as it's updates, and
obviously the viruses are running ahead of those! :-)
We're telling our staff to beware of any email that is bigger
than 10K. We may have to make that 20K because an email with an
internet link can be bigger than 10K. But they are told to not
even preview anything that's a big file. I've heard that even
previewing can download the attachment in some cases. I see
this as the only really safe way to keep from getting a virus. I
think virus emails are about 50K. So if you get a big file from
someone you know, email them back (not using reply, but a new
message) and ask if they sent the email. In Netscape the file
size is listed in the list of emails in your inbox.
Take Care
Jennifer
m markey wrote:
>
> Hi Everybody!
>
> I've read the "virus" messages that came my way through this list. I
> understand that most of the worms and other critters that afflict computers
> these days, come as attachments to Email, and usually gain access to a
> computer through Outlook or Outlook Express.
>
> Stay alert--don't download any attachment, unless it's been thoroughly
> scanned and cleaned! Any attachment with a funny extension needs to be
> avoided--delete it immediately!
>
>
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Thistle Hill Pottery
95 Powder Horn Glen Rd
Montpelier, VT 05602 USA
802-223-8926
http://www.thistlehillpottery.com/
Never pass on an email warning without checking out this site
for web hoaxes and junk:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/
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Lee Love on sat 8 dec 01
I run Outlook Express and have never had any problems. I do run AVG free
virus software. It is updated frequently (more often than the expensive
programs) and has never failed me.
You can download it here: http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_downl.html
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Lee Love on sun 9 dec 01
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jennifer F Boyer"
> this as the only really safe way to keep from getting a virus. I
> think virus emails are about 50K.
Actually, because of Outlook Exp's filters, you can use this program to help you
not open messages over a certain size. You can tell Express to move any
message over 50K to a special folder.
I use Express because of the filter and blocking capabilities. There
is a new version out that avoids some of the past problems, version 6.
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Steve Mills on sun 9 dec 01
Certainly infected emails are bigger than 10k, but not much:
I was sent BadTrans again this morning and Sircam. Recognised both by
the titles. The former is 38K (encoded size), the latter (infinitely
more dangerous) 18K!
Like so many these days I don't open attachments unless forewarned.
Steve
Bath
UK
In message , Jennifer F Boyer writes
Snip>
>Well, the new worms can wreak havok even WITHOUT OUTLOOK! Our
>Any Antivirus software is only as good as it's updates, and
>obviously the viruses are running ahead of those! :-)
>
>We're telling our staff to beware of any email that is bigger
>than 10K. We may have to make that 20K because an email with an
>internet link can be bigger than 10K. But they are told to not
>even preview anything that's a big file. I've heard that even
>previewing can download the attachment in some cases. I see
>this as the only really safe way to keep from getting a virus. I
>think virus emails are about 50K. So if you get a big file from
>someone you know, email them back (not using reply, but a new
>message) and ask if they sent the email. In Netscape the file
>size is listed in the list of emails in your inbox.
>Take Care
>Jennifer
>m markey wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everybody!
>>
>> I've read the "virus" messages that came my way through this list. I
>> understand that most of the worms and other critters that afflict compu=
>ters
>> these days, come as attachments to Email, and usually gain access to a
>> computer through Outlook or Outlook Express.
>>
>
>
>> Stay alert--don't download any attachment, unless it's been thoroughly
>> scanned and cleaned! Any attachment with a funny extension needs to be
>> avoided--delete it immediately!
>>
>
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.=
>asp
>>
>> _______________________________________________________________________=
>_______
>> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>>
>> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
>> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>>
>> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at melpots@pcl=
>ink.com.
>
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>Jennifer Boyer mailto:jboyer@adelphia.net
>Thistle Hill Pottery
>95 Powder Horn Glen Rd
>Montpelier, VT 05602 USA
>802-223-8926
>http://www.thistlehillpottery.com/
>
>Never pass on an email warning without checking out this site
>for web hoaxes and junk:
>http://urbanlegends.about.com/
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Bath
UK
Tom Wirt/Betsy Price on sun 9 dec 01
| >So my suggestion is this: Don't use Outlook! If Outlook is the only
option
| >(some servers require it), consider going to Microsoft's website,
and
| >getting on their update Email list. There are a number of free
patches and
| >other safeguards that might thwart one of the "buggers" being
strewn about.
| >
|
| Mohabee, I couldn't agree with this more! Microsoft's e-mail
products
| are notorious for their security holes. Although there are patches
and
| work-arounds, it's almost criminal that Microsoft refuses to
address
| these issues.
I get very tired of the Microsoft bashing. These people build
software for maximum user benefit. (Certainly they also build in
competitive advantage). They build in things that make it easier to
use software and give us much greater flexibility.
The virus writers use these flexibility benefits to perpetrate their
ego based efforts. Most times, the "patch" supplied just disables the
bit of software rendering what might be a useful feature inoperable.
Don't get the list started on a Microsoft defense and bashing topic.
But look at where the computer industry might be had we not had a
basically standardized operating system..
Tom Wirt
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