Cindi Anderson on sun 9 dec 01
You can set up a simple account on the UPS website, and print your own
labels using a laser printer. They even send you the label stock. The
charges go to your credit card. Then you don't have to go to a UPS drop
off, you can just take it to a MailBox Etc. or place that has UPS pickups.
Sometimes they don't like to do it, but they are supposed to per UPS rules.
Also, if a UPS person is dropping off they will usually take it if it is
prepaid.
That's the main advantage as I see it.
Cindi
Fremont, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah House"
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 6:03 PM
Subject: UPS accounts-who needs them?
> A question for those who ship occasionally. Do you have a UPS account? Is
> there an advantage to having an account for only a few packages, like less
> than one a month. I'm 30 minutes from a UPS drop off, but I mostly send
> packages by USPS. Are there excess charges for having a UPS account.
> Sarah House
Sarah House on sun 9 dec 01
A question for those who ship occasionally. Do you have a UPS account? Is
there an advantage to having an account for only a few packages, like less
than one a month. I'm 30 minutes from a UPS drop off, but I mostly send
packages by USPS. Are there excess charges for having a UPS account.
Sarah House
Reg Wearley on mon 10 dec 01
Sarah,
We are using a UPS program called 'WORLDSHIP'
which UPS set up for us. You pack your boxes,
weigh them, and then type in the data on the
computor screen and a shipping label is printed
for each box. You then have the option of
having them come and pick the boxes up for a
certain fee or, as we do, take the boxes to
the nearest UPS station and no pickup charge.
We use the local "Mail Boxes, etc" as UPS owns
that franchise. "Worldship" is a fair amount
cheaper also(you are doing the work!). Check into
it-it may fit your needs. --Reg Wearley
Val Knight Studio
Big Arm, MT
--- Sarah House
wrote:
> Gotten answers on both ends of the scale so
> far. I'll probably just keep
> putting off the decision until next time i have
> 15 boxes going out at a
> time. Besides our local postman is wonderful,
> and the PO is THE place to be
> in Little Switzerland. Especially since all the
> other businesses are closed
> until May. And i do mean ALL.
>
> Sarah House
>
>
>
>
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>
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potterybydai on mon 10 dec 01
Ann said: "For anyone mailing pottery (or anything else) across the
US/Canadian border, you should be aware that UPS charges a fixed fee for
"Border Processing"........will be charged an additional #30.00 per
package....."
Also interesting to note is that when you get the bill/invoice from UPS (the
only billing you have received at that point for the parcel) you will see
stamped across the bill in big red letters, "FINAL NOTICE"! If you phone
and question them (as I did, thinking I had somehow missed their first
bill), they state that's their policy to put that on their first bill, and
they expect you to pay if so that they don't have to send out another bill.
Their customer service (oxymoron) rep was the rudest person I've ever had
the displeasure of talking to on the phone. It was like they were making
all the rules and if you didn't like them---tough! This rudeness after
having charged me duty on a piece of equipment from the States that was
duty-free! I was appalled. And, yes, I was very civil in return---but my
tongue had teeth-marks in it.
Dai in Kelowna, BC
"There is no right way to do the wrong thing."
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The Balentines on mon 10 dec 01
Hi Sarah-Nope don't have an UPs account. Shipped 2 kiln loads last year by
parcel post at the post office. It was half the price! I would go this way.
You can still insure it. UPs just got way too expensive. I am enjoying my
time off now .Whew what a season . Going to decorate the house this week.
Have 2 shops maybe 3 taking what is left from my sale. They will be fighting
over it! always happens. LOL Susan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah House"
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:03 PM
Subject: UPS accounts-who needs them?
> A question for those who ship occasionally. Do you have a UPS account? Is
> there an advantage to having an account for only a few packages, like less
> than one a month. I'm 30 minutes from a UPS drop off, but I mostly send
> packages by USPS. Are there excess charges for having a UPS account.
> Sarah House
>
>
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FireRight on mon 10 dec 01
UPS will charge you a flat weekly rate ... about $11.00 ... plus your
per-package charges. The driver will stop every day, whether you have
anything to go or not. Might not be a bad deal if you're lonesome and would
like a regular visitor.
-=gw=-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah House"
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:03 PM
Subject: UPS accounts-who needs them?
> A question for those who ship occasionally. Do you have a UPS account? Is
> there an advantage to having an account for only a few packages, like less
> than one a month. I'm 30 minutes from a UPS drop off, but I mostly send
> packages by USPS. Are there excess charges for having a UPS account.
> Sarah House
>
>
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Marsh Pottery on mon 10 dec 01
Hi,
I think the Post Office has the best deal of all.
Go to their website www.usps.com or phone them at 1-800-222-1811, Option
#4.
Ask for FREE Priority Mailing boxes, tape, pre-printed with your return
address mailing labels and even pre-printed window envelopes - ALL FREE for
using Priority Mail. I asked for their largest size, #7, 12x12x8" and
rec'd a box of 25 delivered to the house! The mailing labels and tape came
separately. It takes a couple of weeks to get al this - so plan on it for
next year.
I get free bubble wrap from the local Sheriff's Dept. Fleet Maintenance.
They save it for me when they get in new parts. They also have used boxes.
You just have to go over there and ask, then call once a week and see if
they have any saved for you. Making each fella a mug with his name on it is
a nice way for them to remember you.
A local shop saves the styrofoam peanuts alot of their new wares come
packed in. They save them in the new hefty or glad trash bags I provide! I
go in there every week or two. Marsha Koenig,
Marsh Pottery Studio
Beloved Pet Memorials, Decorator and Kitchenware,
Oriental style, Animal Theme chimes, candle holders and dishes.
http://www.marshpottery.com
F on mon 10 dec 01
> A question for those who ship occasionally. Do you have a UPS account? Is
> there an advantage to having an account for only a few packages, like less
> than one a month. I'm 30 minutes from a UPS drop off, but I mostly send
> packages by USPS. Are there excess charges for having a UPS account.
> Sarah House
Sarah,
We ship between zero and 20 boxes (lamps) a week. My partner Lin set up a
UPS account online that allows her to type in all the "who to - who from"
info and the charge is calculated on-line, plus a barcode label is printed
out, plus it's billed to our credit card. We can track the package and view
our monthly billing info and all sorts of other stuff online. We then put
out a big UPS PICK UP sign in front of our shop and the UPS guy stops in if
he's driving by, which seemes to be most every day. Using a sign instead of
calling in for a pickup is somewhat less certian but it avoids a pickup fee.
This system works absolutely GREAT for us.
I for one highly recommend setting up a UPS account. It's less expensive
than taking stuff in to the UPS depot and it saves us a LOT of time driving
around and waiting in line.
Good luck,
F
F on mon 10 dec 01
>
> Hi Sarah-Nope don't have an UPs account. Shipped 2 kiln loads last year by
> parcel post at the post office.
My 2 cents worth,
Well, I'm very glad that parcel post works for you, but after having them
fail to deliver several packages TWICE (and we paid twice!), because the
address wasn't quite how they wanted it, we gave up on parcel post. In
addition they weren't helpful AT ALL in resolving the issue and were
downright arrogant. On the other hand ... UPS aims to please and so far
their service has been flawless. On AVERAGE, I think UPS prices are
comparable or less than parcelpost.
F
Susan Fox-Hirschmann on mon 10 dec 01
also, ups has a good tracking system, and will pick up at your studio door
if you set up an account with them, or become what is termed a "ready
customer" that is you do the weighing, measuring of each box and call it in
the day before. What could be easier than to leave it all outside with a
company check?
I have shipped my work via ups for 18 years, and they also stand behind that
insurance issue....if you prove to them that you package well, and they
decide to run a street roller over your box, or some such nonsense that
rarely occurs, they will pay up, with an invoice, no questions asked.
They are dependable, and also pretty nice people to work with!
go with UPS!
unless of course you have to get it there quickly, and then FEDEX will also
do pickups with call ins, on an as needed basis, with an account.
You can set that up with a credit card, and amex, will discount fedex
shipping by 10%.
susan fox hirschmann
>From: F
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: UPS accounts-who needs them?
>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 07:30:19 -0700
>
> >
> > Hi Sarah-Nope don't have an UPs account. Shipped 2 kiln loads last year
>by
> > parcel post at the post office.
>
>My 2 cents worth,
>
>Well, I'm very glad that parcel post works for you, but after having them
>fail to deliver several packages TWICE (and we paid twice!), because the
>address wasn't quite how they wanted it, we gave up on parcel post. In
>addition they weren't helpful AT ALL in resolving the issue and were
>downright arrogant. On the other hand ... UPS aims to please and so far
>their service has been flawless. On AVERAGE, I think UPS prices are
>comparable or less than parcelpost.
>
>F
>
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Sarah House on mon 10 dec 01
Gotten answers on both ends of the scale so far. I'll probably just keep
putting off the decision until next time i have 15 boxes going out at a
time. Besides our local postman is wonderful, and the PO is THE place to be
in Little Switzerland. Especially since all the other businesses are closed
until May. And i do mean ALL.
Sarah House
--
www.SKHPottery.com
PO Box 84
Little Switzerland, NC 28749
828-756-1191
Ann Semple on mon 10 dec 01
For anyone mailing pottery (or anything else) across the US/Canadian border,
you should be aware that UPS charges a fixed fee for "Border Processing"
upon delivery. This means that the individual who bought your pottery will
be charged an additional #30.00 per package when the parcel is delivered.
If the item purchased was a $30.00 mug, it just got a lot more expensive!
Ann
annsemple@shaw.ca
"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one. "
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Fox-Hirschmann"
To:
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: UPS accounts-who needs them?
also, ups has a good tracking system, and will pick up at your studio door
if you set up an account with them, or become what is termed a "ready
customer" that is you do the weighing, measuring of each box and call it in
the day before. What could be easier than to leave it all outside with a
company check?
I have shipped my work via ups for 18 years, and they also stand behind that
insurance issue....if you prove to them that you package well, and they
decide to run a street roller over your box, or some such nonsense that
rarely occurs, they will pay up, with an invoice, no questions asked.
They are dependable, and also pretty nice people to work with!
go with UPS!
unless of course you have to get it there quickly, and then FEDEX will also
do pickups with call ins, on an as needed basis, with an account.
You can set that up with a credit card, and amex, will discount fedex
shipping by 10%.
susan fox hirschmann
>From: F
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: UPS accounts-who needs them?
>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 07:30:19 -0700
>
> >
> > Hi Sarah-Nope don't have an UPs account. Shipped 2 kiln loads last year
>by
> > parcel post at the post office.
>
>My 2 cents worth,
>
>Well, I'm very glad that parcel post works for you, but after having them
>fail to deliver several packages TWICE (and we paid twice!), because the
>address wasn't quite how they wanted it, we gave up on parcel post. In
>addition they weren't helpful AT ALL in resolving the issue and were
>downright arrogant. On the other hand ... UPS aims to please and so far
>their service has been flawless. On AVERAGE, I think UPS prices are
>comparable or less than parcelpost.
>
>F
>
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Ann Semple on thu 13 dec 01
Cindi,
It sounds like you are getting a different story than I did. As far as duty
is concerned, the story is the same: made in US comes in duty free. And they
add the sales taxes on according to provinces ( I recently moved from
Ontario to B.C. so now I pay 14% instead of 15% - I save 1%!
When I called yesterday re the $128.00 charge for my shipment, I was told
that a per box charge applied, regardless of cost of the shipment. And I
was charged the dispersement/brokerage fee, even though no duty applied.
Oh and 5 of the 12 bats were broken. It will be interesting to see what
happens with respect to insurance!
As far as lying re package contents, it isn't worth it - for the sender or
receiver. There are stiff penalties for doing so, and the 'spot' checks have
increased a lot since Sept. 11.
Thanks for following up on this - it has been a real irritant to me and many
others and with the information from the States side office, I may be able
to find out why practice doesn't mesh with policy. I'll keep you posted.
Ann
annsemple@shaw.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindi Anderson"
To: "Ann Semple"
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: Re: UPS accounts-who needs them?
I plan to post to the list... It is very inconsistent from what you were
told, $30 per box, but we talked to them quite a while, and called back 3
times to talk to different people and got the same story. Maybe $30 is just
what it came to given the value of the contents of each box?
Cindi
------------------------------------
We just spent 30 minutes talking to UPS about US/Canada charges. It is
quite convoluted... but I am personally glad to know this so I can inform
customers.
There are 3 fees involved that get collected by UPS upon delivery. There
are the UPS fees (brokerage and dispursement) as well as duty fees which UPS
collects and pays to the Canadian government on your behalf.
1. UPS Brokerage fee - Based on value in Canadian dollars. This is PER
shipment, even if it is a group of boxes, but ONLY if you ship the boxes as
a group (they will have linked tracking numbers and say box 1/3, 2/3, 3/3,
etc. and/or the separate packages are all listed on one waybill.) This fee
gets charge on UPS ground orders, but is built into the cost for UPS air.
0-$20: free
$20-$40: $6.25
$40-$100: $16.70
$100-$200: $24.50
$200 and up: $34.50
2. Duty and tax - This gets collected regardless whether it is UPS ground or
air. (unless item is duty free)
Varies depending on the item. Includes duty, GST (goods and services tax),
HST (Harmonized sales tax) and PST (provincial sales tax.) Don't ask me to
try to summarize this as I can't figure it out. It seems you may pay
between 7%-15% depending on where you live. I guess Canadians are used to
these taxes. Here is the webpage that talks about duty fees.
http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/customs/business/importing/courier/postal/bus_gst
_hst-e.html
Due to NAFTA, things made completely within US/Canada/Mexico and accompanied
by a certificate to that effect, are lower or no duty.
3. Dispursement fee, paid to UPS to collect the duty and submit it on your
behalf. This is 2.5% of duty+tax, or $5.50 minimum (again per order as
defined above). This gets collected regardless whether it is ground or air
(unless item is duty free.)
----------------------------------------------------
Some people said they get around these problems by shipping USPS. The
problem with that is that they are terrible about claims for lost or broken
packages even when they are insured. And since Sept 11 a high % of our
packages have not been showing up, so we are no longer shipping most things
by USPS.
----------------------------------------------------
Canada to US is much better
No UPS brokerage fees, and under $200 value is no duty
My guess is that the Canadian government makes it more difficult to import
things than the US government.
----------------------------------------------------
And for the record, I do not think it is appropriate to expect a business to
lie on the paperwork and say something has no value. This has come up
before on the list.
Cindi
Fremont, CA
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