Gordon on tue 11 dec 01
To Clayarters-
Can you believe that it is just about a few months till we meet again
..this time in Kansas City..
.....so it is time to set aside a mug from your chirstmas sale or make an
extra mug or glaze a mug for our clayart mug exchange...Here are the
rules and regs and following you will find a list of those that joined us
last year.
I hope we see you and your mug in Kansas city.
1. make a mug-(no bigger than 9"x9"x9") actually make 2 and donate one to
the NCECA scholarship fund.
2. Please TIE your card or your name to the handle of your mug(it would
be wonderful if you would include the method of construction,clay-cone
fired -glaze on the card )Put another loose card on the inside of the mug
to be used for the exchange.
3. Bring your mugs to the NCECA convention
4. Drop off your Clayart mug at the Clayart Hospitality room.
5 AT HOME: Would you please attach your card on the outside of your mug
with string through the handle(please include clay, firing and glaze
information) and then put another card with your name on the inside of the
mug. Having mugs ready for the exchange will make it easier for the
Muggetts to have a speedy exchange.
AT NCECA :When you bring your mug to the clayart hospitality room please
find the appropriate alphabetical location to set it down...there should be
signs for the alphabetical locations...ALSO please sign the main list so
that your name can be published on Clayart. It will be on a clipboard in
the Clayart room.
The exchange will take place at 6PM on friday night....in the
Clayart room.The room will be closed at 5:30 so we can get organized and
then reopen exactly at 6pm (according to David Hendley' s watch)for the
exchange...
see you soon
6. It is not possible to take part in this exchange unless you plan to be
at the convention or have someone bring it to the convention for you.
2001 Clayart Mug exchange List
Arial,Margaret
Arkowitz,Eleanor
Baker,W. Lowell
Barnett ,Don
Baymore.John
Benscoter,Sande
Bishop,Mary Beth
Blauman,Elka
Boerner,Merrie
Bowen,James
Bowman,Mary Ann
Boyer,Jennifer
Boynton,Kathy
Branfman,Steven
Britt,John
Brown,Barbara
Brown,Jeff
Brunner,Earl
Buck.Tom
Burmingham,Lee
Caldwell,Miki
Campbell,Chris
Cappelli,Steven C
Carpenter,Millie
Cassman, Fabienne
Chiavarini,Denni
Clennell,Sheila
Clennell,Tony
Coggins,Winnie
Colle-Gray,Chris
Collier,Mary
Crist,Beverly
Dapogny,Gail
Dowell,David
Doyle,Jan
Dwiggins,Sandy
Edleman,Bacia
Ehudy,Amman
Elder, John
Farra Mayssan Shora
Fasimpaur,Andi
Fegan,Jackie
Finkelnburg,Dan
Fisher,Karen
Flati,Carla
Fletcher,Linda A
Foster,John
Fouts,Russel
Frain,Tim
Freebody,Brett
Freeman,Laura
Frichely,Brett
Gill,Riki
Gonzaliez,Raymond
Goodrich,Don
Gordon, Kathleen
Gray,Doug
Griffin,Harry
Griffin,Mary
Griffith,Maratha
Hamthorn,Carol
Hanley.Cheryl
Harland,Sally
Haugen,Heidi
Hawthorne,Marjorie
Heimann,Mark
Hellman,Bonnie
Henderson, Anji
Hendley,David
Hesselberth,John F.
Hildreth,Lesley
Hirshmann,Susan Fox
Holmberg,Ron
Holmbers,Ronald
Housell,Sara
Hubbard,Stephanie
Issenberg,Mark
Jacobson,Carrie
Jacobson,Mel
James, Jeffery T
Jarosz,Cat
Jenkins,David
Jenkins,Diane
Jenks,Louise Kahn
Jennings,Rebecca
Jensen. John
Johnson, Chris
Johnson,Lynn
Kaplan,Johnathan
Katz,Louis
Kirendall,Johnathan
Kohler-Camp,Pam
Kuboki, Masato
Lara,Cheryl
Leary,Lori
Lee, Joyce
Lee,Bill
Lehman,Jean
Leung,Audrey
List,Nancy
Litman,Cheryl
Lou,Nils
MacDonald,June
Mackintosh,Nancy
Maguire,Susan
Mahler,Ilene
Marian Sibrack,Paula
Marshall,Lee
Mcbeth,David
McDougal,Katy
McIntosh,Nancy
McLeary,Christina
Menuskin,Marcia
Michaelsen,Carol Ann
Miller,Roberta
Mitchell,Billie
Muench,Emily
Mulfinger,Jim
Neese,Dale
Nowicki,Ken
Palmer,Susan
Park,Rita
Payne,Tena Z.
Pitelka,Vince
Poces,Saundra
Pulley,Pam
Raghavan,Veena
Reeves,Lana
Rhudy, Dannon
Roberts,Sheron
Roy,Ron
Rubin,Jewel
Sadow,Harvey
Savage, Laurie
Selsor,Marcia
Singer,Jon(athan)
Skeen,Lisa
Snyder,Jason
Stadler,Mimi
Steinbrecher, Knox
Stevenson,Carol
Testa,Ann
Tilton,Phyliss
Tortarella,Jill
Turpstos,Karen
Van Ostraud,George
Von Middendorp,Judy
Vorhies, John
Vose,J Pat
Walton.Joan
Watson,Andy
Wild, Kurt
Williams,Donna
Willoughby,Liz
Wilson,Taube(tobe)
Yonkman.Ed
Zimmerman,Beverly
Kathleen Gordon
Palo Alto, Ca 94301
650-328-9164
fax 650-328-9113
email:kjgordon1@homail.com
"if things seem under control then you are not going fast enough!"
Mario Andretti
Jonathan Kirkendall on wed 12 dec 01
Well, I'm off again to Boulder in March to teach so I won't be around for
NCECA. Drat. And last year I promised myself I wouldn't miss it.
So does this mean that it's time to organize the Clayart Stay-at-home mug
exchange too?
Jonathan in DC
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Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:25 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: 4th NCECA CLAYART MUG EXCHANGE
To Clayarters-
Can you believe that it is just about a few months till we meet again
..this time in Kansas City..
.....so it is time to set aside a mug from your chirstmas sale or make an
extra mug or glaze a mug for our clayart mug exchange...Here are the
rules and regs and following you will find a list of those that joined us
last year.
I hope we see you and your mug in Kansas city.
1. make a mug-(no bigger than 9"x9"x9") actually make 2 and donate one to
the NCECA scholarship fund.
2. Please TIE your card or your name to the handle of your mug(it would
be wonderful if you would include the method of construction,clay-cone
fired -glaze on the card )Put another loose card on the inside of the mug
to be used for the exchange.
3. Bring your mugs to the NCECA convention
4. Drop off your Clayart mug at the Clayart Hospitality room.
5 AT HOME: Would you please attach your card on the outside of your mug
with string through the handle(please include clay, firing and glaze
information) and then put another card with your name on the inside of the
mug. Having mugs ready for the exchange will make it easier for the
Muggetts to have a speedy exchange.
AT NCECA :When you bring your mug to the clayart hospitality room please
find the appropriate alphabetical location to set it down...there should be
signs for the alphabetical locations...ALSO please sign the main list so
that your name can be published on Clayart. It will be on a clipboard in
the Clayart room.
The exchange will take place at 6PM on friday night....in the
Clayart room.The room will be closed at 5:30 so we can get organized and
then reopen exactly at 6pm (according to David Hendley' s watch)for the
exchange...
see you soon
6. It is not possible to take part in this exchange unless you plan to be
at the convention or have someone bring it to the convention for you.
2001 Clayart Mug exchange List
Arial,Margaret
Arkowitz,Eleanor
Baker,W. Lowell
Barnett ,Don
Baymore.John
Benscoter,Sande
Bishop,Mary Beth
Blauman,Elka
Boerner,Merrie
Bowen,James
Bowman,Mary Ann
Boyer,Jennifer
Boynton,Kathy
Branfman,Steven
Britt,John
Brown,Barbara
Brown,Jeff
Brunner,Earl
Buck.Tom
Burmingham,Lee
Caldwell,Miki
Campbell,Chris
Cappelli,Steven C
Carpenter,Millie
Cassman, Fabienne
Chiavarini,Denni
Clennell,Sheila
Clennell,Tony
Coggins,Winnie
Colle-Gray,Chris
Collier,Mary
Crist,Beverly
Dapogny,Gail
Dowell,David
Doyle,Jan
Dwiggins,Sandy
Edleman,Bacia
Ehudy,Amman
Elder, John
Farra Mayssan Shora
Fasimpaur,Andi
Fegan,Jackie
Finkelnburg,Dan
Fisher,Karen
Flati,Carla
Fletcher,Linda A
Foster,John
Fouts,Russel
Frain,Tim
Freebody,Brett
Freeman,Laura
Frichely,Brett
Gill,Riki
Gonzaliez,Raymond
Goodrich,Don
Gordon, Kathleen
Gray,Doug
Griffin,Harry
Griffin,Mary
Griffith,Maratha
Hamthorn,Carol
Hanley.Cheryl
Harland,Sally
Haugen,Heidi
Hawthorne,Marjorie
Heimann,Mark
Hellman,Bonnie
Henderson, Anji
Hendley,David
Hesselberth,John F.
Hildreth,Lesley
Hirshmann,Susan Fox
Holmberg,Ron
Holmbers,Ronald
Housell,Sara
Hubbard,Stephanie
Issenberg,Mark
Jacobson,Carrie
Jacobson,Mel
James, Jeffery T
Jarosz,Cat
Jenkins,David
Jenkins,Diane
Jenks,Louise Kahn
Jennings,Rebecca
Jensen. John
Johnson, Chris
Johnson,Lynn
Kaplan,Johnathan
Katz,Louis
Kirendall,Johnathan
Kohler-Camp,Pam
Kuboki, Masato
Lara,Cheryl
Leary,Lori
Lee, Joyce
Lee,Bill
Lehman,Jean
Leung,Audrey
List,Nancy
Litman,Cheryl
Lou,Nils
MacDonald,June
Mackintosh,Nancy
Maguire,Susan
Mahler,Ilene
Marian Sibrack,Paula
Marshall,Lee
Mcbeth,David
McDougal,Katy
McIntosh,Nancy
McLeary,Christina
Menuskin,Marcia
Michaelsen,Carol Ann
Miller,Roberta
Mitchell,Billie
Muench,Emily
Mulfinger,Jim
Neese,Dale
Nowicki,Ken
Palmer,Susan
Park,Rita
Payne,Tena Z.
Pitelka,Vince
Poces,Saundra
Pulley,Pam
Raghavan,Veena
Reeves,Lana
Rhudy, Dannon
Roberts,Sheron
Roy,Ron
Rubin,Jewel
Sadow,Harvey
Savage, Laurie
Selsor,Marcia
Singer,Jon(athan)
Skeen,Lisa
Snyder,Jason
Stadler,Mimi
Steinbrecher, Knox
Stevenson,Carol
Testa,Ann
Tilton,Phyliss
Tortarella,Jill
Turpstos,Karen
Van Ostraud,George
Von Middendorp,Judy
Vorhies, John
Vose,J Pat
Walton.Joan
Watson,Andy
Wild, Kurt
Williams,Donna
Willoughby,Liz
Wilson,Taube(tobe)
Yonkman.Ed
Zimmerman,Beverly
Kathleen Gordon
Palo Alto, Ca 94301
650-328-9164
fax 650-328-9113
email:kjgordon1@homail.com
"if things seem under control then you are not going fast enough!"
Mario Andretti
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Kate Johnson on wed 12 dec 01
Can anyone tell me the date for NCECA? I live near KC and plan to be there
to test drive wheels...time and past time for me to have my own...and I'd
love to meet some of you there!
> To Clayarters-
>
>
> Can you believe that it is just about a few months till we meet again
> ..this time in Kansas City..
> .....so it is time to set aside a mug from your chirstmas sale or make an
> extra mug or glaze a mug for our clayart mug exchange...Here are the
> rules and regs and following you will find a list of those that joined us
> last year.
>
> I hope we see you and your mug in Kansas city.
And I will love being there! I'll see what I can do about a mug...
Best--
Kate
Gregory Evans on thu 13 dec 01
It would be nice if the rules are followed. I for one will not participate
in the mug exchange when tiles and things not close to being a mug are
entered in the exchange. If you are going to have a mug exchange, it has
to be a mug. Expand your horizions, a coiled mug will do if you cannot
throw one but at least it is a mug!
L. P. Skeen on fri 14 dec 01
Greg,
I have to say I TOTALLY disagree with your very narrow viewpoint here. Some
people don't do mugs. The rules have always been that WHATEVER one brings
to exchange must be lesser than or equal to 9x9", but does not have to be a
mug.
I don't remember what I took last year, but I don't think it was a mug.
Don't be a stick in the mug!
L
----- Original Message -----
From: Gregory Evans
Subject: Re: 4th NCECA CLAYART MUG EXCHANGE
> It would be nice if the rules are followed. I for one will not
participate
> in the mug exchange when tiles and things not close to being a mug are
> entered in the exchange. If you are going to have a mug exchange, it has
> to be a mug.
Cl Litman on fri 14 dec 01
And squarely on the other side of the issue...
I like the variety. I consider the swap an opportunity to make a
connection with another clayart potter. Personally I'm really happy to
take any object that they make (and consider an example of their best
work at this moment in time). For me, the mug part is very optional. If
all I wanted was a mug out of the deal, I'd go buy the mug of my choice.
Cheryl Litman - NJ
cheryllitman@juno.com
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 23:59:41 -0500 Gregory Evans
writes:
> It would be nice if the rules are followed. I for one will not
> participate
> in the mug exchange when tiles and things not close to being a mug
> are
> entered in the exchange. If you are going to have a mug exchange,
> it has
> to be a mug. Expand your horizions, a coiled mug will do if you
> cannot
> throw one but at least it is a mug!
>
>
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vince pitelka on fri 14 dec 01
> It would be nice if the rules are followed. I for one will not
participate
> in the mug exchange when tiles and things not close to being a mug are
> entered in the exchange. If you are going to have a mug exchange, it has
> to be a mug. Expand your horizions, a coiled mug will do if you cannot
> throw one but at least it is a mug!
Gregory -
Lighten up. The tradition of the Clayart NCECA mug exchange is that most
people bring mugs or cups, but a few people bring other small handmade clay
items, and there is not a damn reason in the world to change that or for you
to get in a huff about it. We hope you participate, but the mug exchange
works quite well as is. I would like to stress that everyone is expected to
make the best damn mug they can make at their particular skill level. No
seconds, no cast-offs. Bring something which sings. If you are not happy
with your mugs, bring something else you have made in clay. I have brought
mugs, teabowls, bonfired pinch pots, and last year I brought a three-tone
whistle (it was not an ocarina) which Mel got, and that made me pretty damn
happy.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
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http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/
GORMO1@AOL.COM on fri 14 dec 01
It's the holidays so no more huffing and puffing! Potters and rules never
happen
jim gorman
Gregory Evans on sat 15 dec 01
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 08:44:35 -0500, L. P. Skeen
wrote:
>Greg,
>
>I have to say I TOTALLY disagree with your very narrow viewpoint here.
Some
>people don't do mugs. The rules have always been that WHATEVER one brings
>to exchange must be lesser than or equal to 9x9", but does not have to be a
>mug.
>I don't remember what I took last year, but I don't think it was a mug.
>Don't be a stick in the mug!
>
>L
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Gregory Evans
>Subject: Re: 4th NCECA CLAYART MUG EXCHANGE
>
>
>> It would be nice if the rules are followed. I for one will not
>participate
>> in the mug exchange when tiles and things not close to being a mug are
>> entered in the exchange. If you are going to have a mug exchange, it has
>> to be a mug.
>
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melpots@pclink.com.
I take offense to the statement "narrow view..." How else can you view a
mug exchange. If its not going to be a turn mug exchange, do not call it
one.
Also, a mug does not have to be thrown. I had a class of 1st graders that
did a great job at following the assignment to make mugs for father's day
using clay slabs and a creative mind.
Andi Fasimpaur on sat 15 dec 01
At 11:59 PM 12/13/01 -0500, you wrote:
>It would be nice if the rules are followed. I for one will not participate
>in the mug exchange when tiles and things not close to being a mug are
>entered in the exchange. If you are going to have a mug exchange, it has
>to be a mug. Expand your horizions, a coiled mug will do if you cannot
>throw one but at least it is a mug!
There are a couple of reasons why this post bothers me...
First... I for one would probably have killed to rig the drawing the year that
Vince offered his Ocarina... it was probably the most beautiful thing that
I had seen in a very long time (that or it meshed nicely with something I
needed to see...) I would hate to see him prohibited from bringing another
and thereby giving me a chance at winning (errr, um... drawing his name
for) another...
Second, "... A coiled mug will do if you cannot throw one?"!?!?!?! What
exactly does this phrase mean? You aren't yet another victim of the
current ceramic community's perpetual wheel bias, are you? you don't
honestly believe that the only way to make "worthy" pots is by throwing
them, do you? you wouldn't suggest that someone submit substandard
work to the mug exchange, something which was not representative of
their body of work, just so that you could take home something which
fit your definitions of what was suitable for an exchange, would you?
My first exchange was a nightmare... I submitted a very nice handbuilt
cup with a sculpted handle, and was told by several people who had
witnessed the person who drew my name, that they were very disappointed
at the "quality" of my work because it was not thrown... I have several
reasons for not working on the wheel, the first of which is that I badly
dislocated my right shoulder in college and it remains physically painful
to center and if I attempt to center more than a couple of pounds of clay,
in spite of the pain, the shoulder will shift out of position again resulting
in lost production time, and extreme discomfort... It took me years to
figure out that I could still be a valid ceramic artist without throwing and
I have to admit that I resent the hell out of the pressure applied to ceramists
to throw... I have lost count of the number of times that I have been told
that handbuilding is something that you do until you learn to throw, or
until you can afford a wheel of your own... as though somehow a medium
and method of working which encourages you to remain in intimate contact
with the pieces you create for an extended period of time is simply not
a valid artform...
My understanding is that the mug exchange was established so that
we could become familiar with the work of our fellow clayarters... so
that we could see, and possibly even own, a representative piece of
their work... the suggestion that we bring mugs, according to my reading
of the rules, relates more to a price point than to a physical description.
Perhaps one of the organizers can correct me if I'm mistaken...
Best Wishes,
Andi
http://www.mysticspiral.com
Marianne Lombardo on sat 15 dec 01
> My first exchange was a nightmare... I submitted a very nice handbuilt
> cup with a sculpted handle, and was told by several people who had
> witnessed the person who drew my name, that they were very disappointed
> at the "quality" of my work because it was not thrown... I have several
That was awful that people would say such a thing. Bad enough that whoever
drew your work wasn't happy, but no one else should have said anything to
you. I would be proud to own a handbuilt cup. I have never done any
handbuilding myself.
Your words describe the purpose of the mug exchanges beautifully. The
whole
spirit of the "mug" exchange is to have some fun, meet new friends, see a
peer's work, etc. Last year was my first year (stay-at-home xchange) and
Celeste Sabel sent me a shino teabowl and a lovely mug. (we both sent each
other 2 "things"). I use her mug regularly, and her teabowl sits on my
coffee table. Visitors pick up the teabowl, fondle it and say "this is
nice". I proudly say I received it from the Clayart "mug" exchange.
I still hate my mug handles, so I probably won't do a mug. Didn't do mug
last year either. Any mug attempts on my part sit in my own cupboards, out
of sight. sigh, I wish I could make better handles....
Who is organizing the stay-at-home this year?
Marianne Lombardo
Peterborough, Ontario, Canada
Dannon Rhudy on sat 15 dec 01
Andi said:
....>My first exchange was a nightmare... ..
was told by several people who had
>witnessed the person who drew my name, that they were very disappointed
>.....because it was not thrown.....
Gee, with friends like that, who needs enemies? Gossip is
so seldom kindly meant. One almost never hears whispers of
"isn't that wonderful" or "he said the kindest thing". Folks
tend to repeat hurtful nasty stuff "because we should know" or
"for our own good". What nonsense. Life is too short for
meanness of that kind. Too short to pay attention to it, too,
when it is sent our way.
It would be too tiresome to think that the mug exchange had
become some sort of contest. It should be fun. If it isn't
fun, don't play.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
I have several
>reasons for not working on the wheel, the first of which is that I badly
>dislocated my right shoulder in college and it remains physically painful
>to center and if I attempt to center more than a couple of pounds of clay,
>in spite of the pain, the shoulder will shift out of position again resulting
>in lost production time, and extreme discomfort... It took me years to
>figure out that I could still be a valid ceramic artist without throwing and
>I have to admit that I resent the hell out of the pressure applied to
ceramists
>to throw... I have lost count of the number of times that I have been told
>that handbuilding is something that you do until you learn to throw, or
>until you can afford a wheel of your own... as though somehow a medium
>and method of working which encourages you to remain in intimate contact
>with the pieces you create for an extended period of time is simply not
>a valid artform...
>
>My understanding is that the mug exchange was established so that
>we could become familiar with the work of our fellow clayarters... so
>that we could see, and possibly even own, a representative piece of
>their work... the suggestion that we bring mugs, according to my reading
>of the rules, relates more to a price point than to a physical description.
>
>Perhaps one of the organizers can correct me if I'm mistaken...
>
>Best Wishes,
>
>Andi
>http://www.mysticspiral.com
>
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>
Fabienne Micheline Cassman on mon 17 dec 01
Hello folks,
I don't make mugs and didn't bring one last year to the exchange. I can
only apologize for my "unexpended" horizons in the realm of mugs. Frankly,
making a mug wouldn't be as personal to me as making a small dish. So, the
question is, would you rather have a lousy mug from me I hated to make or a
nice little dish with all my loving care in it?
The following is not unheard of either: people trade their mugs after the
drawing AND/OR bring several objects and trade them on the side and don't
participate in the exchange.
So, now since it has never been a 100% mug exchange, why not just drop the
"mug" on the subject and be done with it?
My 2 cents,
Fabienne who STILL doesn't know who got her dish last year *sigh*
Fabienne http://www.milkywayceramics.com/
WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above
because my cats have apparently learned to type.
m markey on mon 17 dec 01
Hi Fabienne!
Last year, I exchanged one of my candle surrounds, with a fine woman in
Virginia, who sent me a bird feeder! BTW, the wrens really like the
feeder--and I'm certain my exchange buddy enjoys the surround. This was
through the at-home exchange.
So I believe that one could make a non-mug, to exchange for a mug, or
another non-mug, at the "live exchange."
Best wishes!
Mohabee (Milton) Nakedclay@hotmail.com
Getting ready to feed the birds, who are taking the chill better than I can.
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