Veena Raghavan on sat 5 jan 02
Happy New Year All!
Has anyone had any experience entering the Orton Cone Box Show. I was
thinking of giving it a try. It probably sounds awfully dumb, but I am no=
t
sure how the dimensions work. I know they are 3X3X6, but can the object f=
it
those dimensions in any position. Meaning, can the height be six inches,
for example. I tried contacting Orton by e-mail, but I have had no
response.
Any help would be appreciate!
Thanks in advance, and I hope everyone has recovered from the holiday
hustle and bustle and enjoying the new year, which I hope will be a good,=
happy, peaceful, and prosperous one for all.
Veena
Veena Raghavan
75124.2520@compuserve.com
Marie Gibbons on sat 5 jan 02
the piece just needs to be those dimensions, 3 x 3 x 6"
the orientation of the piece doesn't have to be any specific direction, just
those dimensions.
marie gibbons
www.oooladies.com
Dannon Rhudy on sat 5 jan 02
.... Orton Cone Box Show....... not
>sure how the dimensions work. I know they are 3X3X6,......
Anything that you wish to make, in any configuration, is
fine - so long as it fits into an Orton cone box - the large one.
That is, it must be no larger than 3"x3"x6". The configuration
does not matter - it just has to fit in the box.
This show is consistently a good one, with remarkable works
of all sorts. You can look back through some past Ceramics
Monthly magazines and see some of the works, I believe.
Work ranges from sculptural to traditional thrown or handbuilt
functional - just on a small scale.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
Anji Henderson on mon 7 jan 02
For anyone and Veena...
http://www.bakeru.edu/conebox/index.html
And yes measurment can go any whichever way..
Anji
--- Veena Raghavan <75124.2520@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:
> Happy New Year All!
>
> Has anyone had any experience entering the Orton
> Cone Box Show. I was
> thinking of giving it a try. It probably sounds
> awfully dumb, but I am not
> sure how the dimensions work. I know they are 3X3X6,
> but can the object fit
> those dimensions in any position. Meaning, can the
> height be six inches,
> for example. I tried contacting Orton by e-mail, but
> I have had no
> response.
>
> Any help would be appreciate!
>
> Thanks in advance, and I hope everyone has recovered
> from the holiday
> hustle and bustle and enjoying the new year, which I
> hope will be a good,
> happy, peaceful, and prosperous one for all.
>
> Veena
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Bracker's Good Earth Clays, Inc. on tue 8 jan 02
Bill Bracker started the Orton Cone Box show back in the 70's while he
was teaching at Purdue University. His inspiration from the show was
from Jerry Evans, a 12 year old neighbor of his in rural Lafayette,
Indiana. Bill allowed a limited amount of space in his salt kiln in
exchange for Jerry's help keeping the studio clean, helping to fire and
salt the kiln, etc. Jerry made bunches of little pots to use his limited
space as best he could. When Jerry showed Bill a cigar box filled with
nearly 100 of these tiny pots, he realized that there were enough pieces
in one small box for an exhibit. Bill had always used cone boxes to
store fired draw rings, used cones, small ceramic pieces, and fired mud
dauber nests, to name a few. The first show became a reality in 1975.
When Bill left Purdue to take a job at Kansas University in Lawrence,
Kansas, the Orton Cone Box Show came with him. When he left teaching to
become a potter with his wife (and then later a supplier), the Orton
Cone Box Show went on hiatus. Shortly before he died, he handed over the
the show into the caring hands of Inge Balch, who teaches at Baker
University in Baldwin City, Kansas (both Lawrence & Baldwin City are
approx. 30-45 minutes west of Kansas City).
Bill's original idea for the Orton Cone Box Show was to allow potters to
send actual pieces to be adjudicated, not just slides. Bill felt that it
was often difficult to accurately represent a three-dimensional piece in
a two-dimensional slide. Plus, he knew how much the tactile impression
of a piece affected the jurors (how many times have I read about potters
on this list getting "frustrated" at museums because they weren't
allowed to touch and hold and fondle the pot on display?). At the time
of the show's inception, the standard Orton Cone Box was 3" x 3" x 6",
and most artists probably had a handful lying around the studio at any
given time. It was a natural progression to limit the pieces to that
size to reduce the chance of damage in shipment and save the artist
money on shipping and insurance. But it's not a miniature show. In the
past, artists have submitted pieces that fit into the Cone Box
parameters, but are by no means mini. For example, a necklace or clay
garland can be curled up to fit, but when on display, takes a large
portion of a wall. My personal favorite was "Noah's Ark" by Mark Silvers
(a purchase award winner from the third show), which consisted of a dark
charcoal grey (possibly pit or smoke fired) ark with 13 pairs of little
white porcelain animals. His entry included detailed instructions on the
set-up of his Ark, down to the amount of space that the little pair of
turtles lagged behind the line of the other 12 pairs of animals waiting
to board the Ark. When packed to ship, the animals could all be tucked
inside the Ark, but when on display, it was spread out quite a bit.
There have also been dioramas with hinges that allow the piece to open
up for display, yet fold together to fit the size criteria.
So in answer to your question, Veena, try to think outside the box while
you think inside the box. :-) And if it seems like I have a bit of a
bias towards the Orton Cone Box Show, it might be because I'm one of
Bill's daughters.
Good luck!
Anne M. Bracker
--- Veena Raghavan <75124.2520@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:
>> Happy New Year All!
>>
>> Has anyone had any experience entering the Orton
>> Cone Box Show. I was
>> thinking of giving it a try. It probably sounds
>> awfully dumb, but I am not
>> sure how the dimensions work. I know they are 3X3X6,
>> but can the object fit
>> those dimensions in any position. Meaning, can the
>> height be six inches,
>> for example. I tried contacting Orton by e-mail, but
>> I have had no
>> response.
>>
>> Any help would be appreciate!
>>
>> Thanks in advance, and I hope everyone has recovered
>> from the holiday
>> hustle and bustle and enjoying the new year, which I
>> hope will be a good,
>> happy, peaceful, and prosperous one for all.
>>
>> Veena
>
christie lucero on thu 18 mar 04
Is there anywhere online that lists the accepted pieces for the show? I =
tried to Email somebody named Nelson at Baker u. but the message =
bounced.
Christie Lucero
Snowlion Fine Arts
Coyote Creek, NM
Maurice Weitman on sat 20 mar 04
At 20:38 -0700 on 3/18/04, christie lucero wrote:
>Is there anywhere online that lists the accepted pieces for the
>show? I tried to Email somebody named Nelson at Baker u. but the
>message bounced.
Christie, the woman who juried the show told me that she would put
the list on the web when she gets home from NCECA. The winners were
just announced this week, and she's been unable to do it yet.
By the way, the pots on display (winners and not) were delightful!
Regards,
Maurice
Marta Matray Gloviczki on mon 22 mar 04
maurice and christie,
i think, that there is no list of
accepted artists yet.
the show was juried just a week ago by
janet mansfield of australia,
and by phil rogers of england,
as soon as they arrived to indianapolis.
the show was put up right away at nceca
by inge balch of baker university, who
organized the exhibit.
i guess, that during this busy time they didnt have
time yet to send out notifications...
only those of us, who saw the show know that we got
accepted by seeing our actual work there exhibited.
(or not seeing it, meaning ... you know... ouch!)
the show will be traveling for two years, the first
stop after nceca is at baker u in kansas.
the opening there is march 30.
it is a wonderful exhibit with real international
flavor, and if schools with ceramics department are
interested to host the show
they should contact inge balch at baker u.
it was a super-duper nceca btw...
and the clayart room was the best ever!
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Susan Speck on fri 10 mar 06
I saw someone on 'clay art' tell ppl she got in. I suppose they sent out acceptances, but not the rejections, although I have gotten a written rejection before...and isn't there an 'accept'/'reject' box on the entry form? Hmmm, I always enter this show and I always hear about it before the opening in mid-March. Maybe Inge Balch isn't sending out notice until around the opening on March 21.
I am going to the opening...I live close enough. I can look for anyone wanting to know if they got in or got put in the 'other room'.
Susan Speck
Veena Raghavan wrote:
Hi fellow Clayarters.
I wonder if anyone who sent in work for the Orton Cone Box Show has heard
whether or not they got in, and if so, how they received this information.
Haven't heard anything, so I am assuming I did not! But, just wondering if the
silence is good or bad news!
Thank you in advance.
Veena
VeenaRaghavan@cs.com
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Veena Raghavan on fri 10 mar 06
Hi fellow Clayarters.
I wonder if anyone who sent in work for the Orton Cone Box Show has heard
whether or not they got in, and if so, how they received this information.
Haven't heard anything, so I am assuming I did not! But, just wondering if the
silence is good or bad news!
Thank you in advance.
Veena
VeenaRaghavan@cs.com
Joseph Herbert on sat 11 mar 06
Veena asked about being informed about the cone box show.
When I talked to the woman who ran the show at the Kansas City NCECA she
indicated that the work load associated with the show was pretty stunning.
I believe there were about 180 pieced in the show and some 600 submitted.
She had organized the display, more or less alone, and was "looking forward"
to the process of returning the entries. Since this is an unpaid volunteer
activity of a person who has a real job (in her case as a university
professor), some of the mechanics can get a little creaky, I imagine.
I expect that the you cannot draw any conclusion from the non-notification.
The best way to find out is if one of our correspondents who are in Oregon
can go to the show and look for Veena's name.
One of the other results of my talk with the woman in Lawrence was the
incredibly poor way that many of the Cone Box Show entries are packed for
shipment. Regardless of your talent, if you cannot successfully ship your
product, you have not chance of artistic recognition or business success.
Joseph Herbert
Susan Speck on sun 12 mar 06
hey Joe,
I know that Ms. Balch basically works alone on this show... I don't envy her. I once hand-delivered my piece to her office and...yes...some of the packaging looked atrocious!
It seems that the Cone Box notifcation is handled differently every time...and that is ok with me. No complaints, 'cause I ain't runnin' it!
A few of us were just curious.
Be well,
Susan S
Joseph Herbert wrote:
Veena asked about being informed about the cone box show.
When I talked to the woman who ran the show at the Kansas City NCECA she
indicated that the work load associated with the show was pretty stunning.
I believe there were about 180 pieced in the show and some 600 submitted.
She had organized the display, more or less alone, and was "looking forward"
to the process of returning the entries. Since this is an unpaid volunteer
activity of a person who has a real job (in her case as a university
professor), some of the mechanics can get a little creaky, I imagine.
I expect that the you cannot draw any conclusion from the non-notification.
The best way to find out is if one of our correspondents who are in Oregon
can go to the show and look for Veena's name.
One of the other results of my talk with the woman in Lawrence was the
incredibly poor way that many of the Cone Box Show entries are packed for
shipment. Regardless of your talent, if you cannot successfully ship your
product, you have not chance of artistic recognition or business success.
Joseph Herbert
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suze jernigan on sun 12 mar 06
http://www.bakeru.edu/index.php?module=articles&func=display&aid=594
this link will take you to the pdf file showing the 2006 winning entries in the Cone Box show.
While I'm on here, I would like to say that I enjoyed Tony's workshop in San Antonio...it was fun to introduce him to the "real" taste of Dr. Pepper.
Suze Jernigan in warm San Antonio
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Wally on sun 12 mar 06
Susan,
All details can be found on the website of Baker University :
http://www.bakeru.edu/index.php?module=3Darticles&func=3Ddisplay&ptid=3D1&a=
id=3D594
There's a link (Accepted.pdf) where you can download a file with all
the names of selected works.
Wally, Schoten, Belgium.
(quite delighted to be selected)
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Susan Speck wrote:
>
> I saw someone on 'clay art' tell ppl she got in. I suppose they
sent out acceptances, but not the rejections, although I have gotten a
written rejection before...and isn't there an 'accept'/'reject' box on
the entry form? Hmmm, I always enter this show and I always hear
about it before the opening in mid-March. Maybe Inge Balch isn't
sending out notice until around the opening on March 21.
> I am going to the opening...I live close enough. I can look for
anyone wanting to know if they got in or got put in the 'other room'.
>
> Susan Speck
Veena Raghavan on sun 12 mar 06
Thanks for the information.
Veena
In a message dated 3/12/2006 3:53:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
suzejernigan@SBCGLOBAL.NET writes:
> http://www.bakeru.edu/index.php?module=articles&func=display&aid=594
>
> this link will take you to the pdf file showing the 2006 winning entries
> in the Cone Box show.
VeenaRaghavan@cs.com
am griswold on mon 13 mar 06
hi veena,
i got a piece in the cone box show, and was notified of it (a week or
two prior to nceca) by email. { it was funny to have to send it all the way
to baker university in kansas only to have it travel all the way back out
here to portland for the showing at georgies ceramic supply. } what i am
wondering is, when will the second piece i submitted (not accepted) be
returned to me? anyone? thanks,
am griswold
earthart claywork
troutdale, or
>From: Veena Raghavan
>Reply-To: Clayart
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Orton Cone Box Show
>Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:44:37 EST
>
>Hi fellow Clayarters.
>
>I wonder if anyone who sent in work for the Orton Cone Box Show has heard
>whether or not they got in, and if so, how they received this information.
>Haven't heard anything, so I am assuming I did not! But, just wondering if
>the
>silence is good or bad news!
>
>Thank you in advance.
>
>Veena
>
>VeenaRaghavan@cs.com
>
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Susan Speck on mon 13 mar 06
am,
I have entered the "Cone Box" since 1998 (accepted once) and attend the opening every time. Make note that I am not speaking for the "Cone Box", Baker U. or Inge Balch (of Baker U. and the "Cone Box"), but, it is my experience that work that is not selected for the "Cone Box" goes to another building on the Baker campus for sale on the night of the opening. (I am not sure if they are for sale other days though.) Many pieces do get sold in the (as *I* call it) 'reject room'. There are lots of great pieces in the 'RR' and the price you have asked for your piece is what Baker sells it for. If your work doesn't sell then it will be returned to you shortly. If you want the full 411, then email Inge Balch at Baker U.
I will be in good company with you as my work will be in the 'RR' this year. I look forward to seeing your work at the opeing!
Susan Speck
am griswold wrote:
hi veena,
i got a piece in the cone box show, and was notified of it (a week or
two prior to nceca) by email. { it was funny to have to send it all the way
to baker university in kansas only to have it travel all the way back out
here to portland for the showing at georgies ceramic supply. } what i am
wondering is, when will the second piece i submitted (not accepted) be
returned to me? anyone? thanks,
am griswold
earthart claywork
troutdale, or
>From: Veena Raghavan
>Reply-To: Clayart
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Orton Cone Box Show
>Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:44:37 EST
>
>Hi fellow Clayarters.
>
>I wonder if anyone who sent in work for the Orton Cone Box Show has heard
>whether or not they got in, and if so, how they received this information.
>Haven't heard anything, so I am assuming I did not! But, just wondering if
>the
>silence is good or bad news!
>
>Thank you in advance.
>
>Veena
>
>VeenaRaghavan@cs.com
>
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Veena Raghavan on mon 13 mar 06
Hi Susan,
Thanks so much for the information on the reject room. I was wondering what
it meant on the form, when it said that rejected pieces might sell. Thanks to
you, I now have some idea.
Inge Balch does such a wonderful job with this competition and show, with
little help. So, I think she is marvelous. Would love your comments if you get to
the show and to the RR room.
I am glad to be in such good company in the RR room.
Thanks again and all the best.
Veena
n a message dated 3/13/2006 2:58:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
llywhite54@YAHOO.COM writes:
but, it is my experience that work that is not selected for the "Cone Box"
goes to
> another building on the Baker campus for sale on the night of the opening.
> (I am not sure if they are for sale other days though.) Many pieces do get
> sold in the (as *I* call it) 'reject room'. There are lots of great pieces
> in the 'RR' and the price you have asked for your piece is what Baker sells it
> for. If your work doesn't sell then it will be returned to you shortly.
VeenaRaghavan@cs.com
Susan Speck on mon 13 mar 06
Good idea! I will post something for clayart about the Cone Box.
I can't wait to go to the reception and BUY something. I am looking for a piece of Yoshiro Ikeda's (K-State prof.) this year. Hope I bring enough $$$.
Susan
Veena Raghavan wrote:
Hi Susan,
Thanks so much for the information on the reject room. I was wondering what
it meant on the form, when it said that rejected pieces might sell. Thanks to
you, I now have some idea.
Inge Balch does such a wonderful job with this competition and show, with
little help. So, I think she is marvelous. Would love your comments if you get to
the show and to the RR room.
I am glad to be in such good company in the RR room.
Thanks again and all the best.
Veena
n a message dated 3/13/2006 2:58:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
llywhite54@YAHOO.COM writes:
but, it is my experience that work that is not selected for the "Cone Box"
goes to
> another building on the Baker campus for sale on the night of the opening.
> (I am not sure if they are for sale other days though.) Many pieces do get
> sold in the (as *I* call it) 'reject room'. There are lots of great pieces
> in the 'RR' and the price you have asked for your piece is what Baker sells it
> for. If your work doesn't sell then it will be returned to you shortly.
VeenaRaghavan@cs.com
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Susan Speck on tue 14 mar 06
If possible I will try to get some good, but clandestine digital shots of my favorites.
susan
Veena Raghavan wrote:
Hi Susan,
Look forward to seeing your post. Good luck with your purchase at the
Reception.
Veena
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Veena Raghavan on tue 14 mar 06
Hi Susan,
Look forward to seeing your post. Good luck with your purchase at the
Reception.
Veena
VeenaRaghavan@cs.com
am griswold on tue 14 mar 06
that would be awesome, i would love to hear about your impressions, esp.
about the "rejects"
peace, am
>From: Susan Speck
>Reply-To: Clayart
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: Orton Cone Box Show
>Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:18:58 -0800
>
>Good idea! I will post something for clayart about the Cone Box.
> I can't wait to go to the reception and BUY something. I am looking for
>a piece of Yoshiro Ikeda's (K-State prof.) this year. Hope I bring enough
>$$$.
> Susan
>
>Veena Raghavan wrote:
> Hi Susan,
>
>Thanks so much for the information on the reject room. I was wondering what
>it meant on the form, when it said that rejected pieces might sell. Thanks
>to
>you, I now have some idea.
>
>Inge Balch does such a wonderful job with this competition and show, with
>little help. So, I think she is marvelous. Would love your comments if you
>get to
>the show and to the RR room.
>
>I am glad to be in such good company in the RR room.
>
>Thanks again and all the best.
>
>Veena
>
>
>
>
>
>
>n a message dated 3/13/2006 2:58:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>llywhite54@YAHOO.COM writes:
>
>but, it is my experience that work that is not selected for the "Cone Box"
>goes to
> > another building on the Baker campus for sale on the night of the
>opening.
> > (I am not sure if they are for sale other days though.) Many pieces do
>get
> > sold in the (as *I* call it) 'reject room'. There are lots of great
>pieces
> > in the 'RR' and the price you have asked for your piece is what Baker
>sells it
> > for. If your work doesn't sell then it will be returned to you shortly.
>
>VeenaRaghavan@cs.com
>
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Lesley Hildreth on tue 14 mar 06
I had one piece accepted and one rejected. I spoke to Inge Balch and she
said that certain of the pieces that weren=B9t chosen were selected for the
=8CReject Show=B9 which is being held at the Student=B9s Gallery in Baldwin City.
As far as pieces being returned, it is a slow-&-steady return system =AD some
may not make it back =8Chome=B9 until this summer. I think that it is done on a
=8Cwhen time is available=B9 basis. I think that the show is a huge under takin=
g
and I would have loved to have been there to unwrap each and everyone as it
arrived.
We need to appreciate the time that Inge puts into this.
Lesley
VA Bch, VA
Inge Gyrite Balch on wed 15 mar 06
Dear All,
It was a pleasure to meet some of you during the NCECA conference in
Portland. What a beautiful city and nice and helpful people. I stayed in
The Red Lion Inn and roomed with Pricilla Mouritzen from Denmark and Lisa
Orr form texas. What fun! We do it every year!
Any way, I have read the comments from several of you with regard to the
Cone Box Show held at Baker University every other year. Thank you for all
the encouragement and appreciation. It IS a great undertaking and a heap of
work, but I enjoy doing it and the show gets better and better every time.
Most of the juried work is exqusite, fun, creative,amusing, mindboggling
and deserves to be juried from the actual piece and not from a slide, which
would make life so much easier but not nearly as fun! There is no way you
can see all the minute details, feel the textures, listen to the stories
they tell or understand the structure of the pieces, from a slide. You must
hold them, turn them and admire the work that has gone into each of the
little works. It is always exiting when the boxes start to arrive. This
time a few of them came 1 year ahead of schedule(?) I had about 35 boxes up
to the last few days before the dead line and then about 300 in one fell
swoop. Be aware of a new dead line for next 2008:-) Thanks to a few
dedicated studio students and a couple of very good friends (still are)all
was taken care of and documented, set up, tagged and numbered (no names).
The jurors did a super job and the show is so different from last time. The
list of accepted entries and purchase awards etc. was put on the webpage
right away for all to read as usual. I quit emailing notifications when
many were returned due to server or unreadable addresses. I do puzzle over
some of the packing or rather non-packing and broken entries. Both heavy
and fragile pieces, rattling unprotected in cone boxes, will break! Even if
they are double boxed! But most pieces are packed so well that UPS and
their football team could not hurt them! That is a complement!
What would be really great is NOT to pack in vermiculite and instead of
using 5 feet of shipping tape around a buble wrapped intricate and fragile
piece, use a rubberband! It saves time and handling of the piece and the
bubble wrap can be used again. Not accepted pieces will be returned as soon
as possible. Some have been sold already and if the entry form has been
read properly, you will know that the pieces may be kept for up to 2 years,
broken pieces will not be returned except COD. My hope is to have all the
pieces returned by June sometime. There are 400+ to deal with. I do hope
this answers most of the questions asked but feel free to contact me by
email or phone.
Hope to see some of you for the opening at Baker University March 21st.
Sincerely,
Inge G. Balch
Prof of Art/Chair
Baker University
Baldwin City, Kansas 66006
inge.balch@bakeru.edu
785-594-4537
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