mel jacobson on wed 16 jan 02
i think the nail was struck on the head.
of course, richard often does that.
each place of learning has a style, an approach.
major land grant universities, by law, exist to
do research. good teaching in many ways, is a secondary
gift to students. often, the course is taught in a second language.
if your professor speaks english it is gift.
small private colleges are more than good places
for rather good teaching.
take linfield, where nils teaches. it seems that the student
is the main focus. even the president roams the campus talking
to folks. sharlene and i had a wonderful chat with her. mrs. bull
is an inspiration to all.
the older i get, the more i roam the united states teaching, the
more i see and learn. potters are very open and wanting when
it comes to information about the craft.
this is what makes clayart the force that it is. a free exchange
of ideas, information and technical knowledge. it is vital.
we all abhor the `good old boy` history of clay. throw the
clay out, check out the `chicks`, and take a nap.
students deserve more, and should demand more.
but, if the student just sits and takes it, does nothing
to help themselves...well, then they more than deserve what
they get.
the problems with education are many folded. poor students with
no motivation. students seeking grades first, knowledge second.
easy courses with no meat. grade escalation on all fronts. all of
these issue combine to make things rather dim.
but, we who are at the front lines will try and keep the pressure
on, at least in clay education. it takes all of us, each and everyone
of us to keep the pressure on. quality instruction, varied approach,
and of course technique and safety must be included. my god, there
may be room for business practice too, but, don't hold your
breath.
clayart will continue to be a major source of information and
exchange of ideas. it is an open forum, each and every member
has a voice. this is a grass roots program, the grass is growing.
mel/moderator.
From:
Minnetonka, Minnesota, U.S.A.
web site: http://www.pclink.com/melpots
Roger Korn on wed 16 jan 02
My first teacher was Ray Grimm at Portland State University in '62. Fun guy, but
he'd throw out individual challenges that he knew you couldn't meet. Except
sometimes you did. You got graded on how you approached the problem and how much
your skill set grew. Ever the didact, he'd usually answer a question with a
question or a demo. Either way, you learned to lead yourself in a workable
direction. Worked for me.
Oh by the way, he's 80 and we fire the same anagama.
Roger
mel jacobson wrote:
> i think the nail was struck on the head.
> of course, richard often does that.
>
> each place of learning has a style, an approach.
>
> major land grant universities, by law, exist to
> do research. good teaching in many ways, is a secondary
> gift to students. often, the course is taught in a second language.
> if your professor speaks english it is gift.
>
> small private colleges are more than good places
> for rather good teaching.
>
> take linfield, where nils teaches. it seems that the student
> is the main focus. even the president roams the campus talking
> to folks. sharlene and i had a wonderful chat with her. mrs. bull
> is an inspiration to all.
>
> the older i get, the more i roam the united states teaching, the
> more i see and learn. potters are very open and wanting when
> it comes to information about the craft.
>
> this is what makes clayart the force that it is. a free exchange
> of ideas, information and technical knowledge. it is vital.
>
> we all abhor the `good old boy` history of clay. throw the
> clay out, check out the `chicks`, and take a nap.
>
> students deserve more, and should demand more.
> but, if the student just sits and takes it, does nothing
> to help themselves...well, then they more than deserve what
> they get.
>
> the problems with education are many folded. poor students with
> no motivation. students seeking grades first, knowledge second.
> easy courses with no meat. grade escalation on all fronts. all of
> these issue combine to make things rather dim.
>
> but, we who are at the front lines will try and keep the pressure
> on, at least in clay education. it takes all of us, each and everyone
> of us to keep the pressure on. quality instruction, varied approach,
> and of course technique and safety must be included. my god, there
> may be room for business practice too, but, don't hold your
> breath.
>
> clayart will continue to be a major source of information and
> exchange of ideas. it is an open forum, each and every member
> has a voice. this is a grass roots program, the grass is growing.
> mel/moderator.
>
> From:
> Minnetonka, Minnesota, U.S.A.
> web site: http://www.pclink.com/melpots
>
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