artimater on sat 19 jan 02
Various people wrote:
Andy,John, Cici are a bunch of dumbasses(I paraphrase)
Because of this problem, our local college now limits each student to =
25
Lbs/semester
The resentment and jealousy are palpable
inappropriate and
tacky
And some genius wrote:
thieves
Three days this week there were, at most, 3 people working in the new =
facility that could easily accommodate 50...none of my stuff hangs =
around....It moves through the process and then comes to my =
house....Nothing gets wasted....I'm sorry none of you have a great place =
to work like I do...Sorry you all have to put up with being exploited by =
those who are paid to help you.....sorry you are all forced to genuflect =
on a daily basis...Sorry you can only find poorly run and poorly funded =
places to work.....yep yep....So sorry for you
Why do you guys think I always called it ceramics heaven?....I see =
stunning work come out of our kilns every day....There are likely more =
continuing students there than there are beginners...Art is a lifetime =
learning experience...We are a huge family, and we feed off each other's =
energy....We help each other out....We have big pot luck dinners....Ever =
have roast duck with your salt fire?...I have(thanks again Aki)...I make =
a pot of Starbuckie French Roast every morning...In 12 years I don't =
remember any harsh words ever being exchanged....We now have a staff =
that keeps two steps ahead of all of us....They apologize if the glaze =
buckets aren't full...We were already known throughout the area as THE =
place to do ceramics..... With the revamped facilities the sky is the =
limit
This, kiddies, is how ceramics should be done....none of that angry, =
lonely, uninspired life.....Open lab 7 days a week....Perhaps the rest =
of you could have it all too......If there weren't so many who would =
like to get a leg up on someone and something for nothing...I guess that =
is the American way though....You should always take a little for your =
trouble from everyone you meet, huh?....Attempt to screw each other at =
every doorway....huh?....All that great art flying around our shop tends =
to overpower all that crap.....Art is from the heart and we all love =
each other....We leave all that jealousy and resentment to the rest of =
you...
Like I said, the staff gets all the credit; they are =
wonderworkers.....good people....in the middle of hell city....a little =
bit of ceramics heaven...
Bamboo Karen said I would be welcome in her classes.....You would =
all be welcome in ours!....I pinch myself every time I walk in the gate =
and never wake up from the dream....Isn't this why I pay all that income =
tax and 8 1/4% sales tax?...It sure as hell isn't to fund the police =
departmentHEHEHE...
Ceramics Heaven is why I get upset with posts that advocate =
elitism, snobbery and puffery....Yes it's all been done before, but with =
a little help from your friends it can be taken to new heights...
PAX,
Rush
"I only indulge when I've seen a snake, so I keep a supply of =
indulgences and snakes handy"
http://artimator.com
rush@artimator.com
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/texasceramics
Artimator Galleries
2420 Briarwood Ln.
Carrollton, TX 75006
972-841-1857
David Hendley on sat 19 jan 02
Sorry Arti, but as an old Clayart veteran, I have to remind you about
your ancient (in internet time) diatribes about how people at
"Ceramics Heaven" were set against you, stole your work before
it could be fired, and generally gave you a hard time.
In fact, that ranting is what got you kicked off of Clayart the
first time.
As I've said before, I'm happy as a taxpayer to support you as
a professional student. Most of the junior colleges around here
have a group of students that have been taking ceramics classes
for years and years, and they are some of my best customers.
I've always said that the best way to gain a good customer is to
get them to take some ceramics classes.
A few years ago, I took a summer school class at "Ceramics
Heaven", and I tell you I felt like, in the words of Naomi Judd,
"a John Deere tractor in a half-acre field".
I'm used to having a whole house to myself, and here I was
trying to work on one-quarter of one table. I'm used to having
two 4-foot-long ware carts to put drying pots on. In "Heaven"
I had an 18 inch-by-18 inch shelf.
I'm used to walking 100 feet to my pottery shop, not spending
an hour a day fighting North Dallas traffic.
All I can tell you is that if you want to reach your full potential
as an artist you will have to cut the cord and strike out on your own.
You will never do it as a student at a junior college.
You don't know what you are missing. It's not about finding
a "good deal" and it's not about having a staff member apologize
if they don't have the glaze buckets full.
The guy down at the county jail also has a "good deal" (free
rent) and the staff fixes 3 meals a day for him.
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
hendley@tyler.net
http://www.farmpots.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "artimater"
To:
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 5:10 AM
Subject: kill the artists 2
Three days this week there were, at most, 3 people working in the new
facility that could easily accommodate 50...none of my stuff hangs
around....It moves through the process and then comes to my house....Nothing
gets wasted....I'm sorry none of you have a great place to work like I
do...Sorry you all have to put up with being exploited by those who are paid
to help you.....sorry you are all forced to genuflect on a daily
basis...Sorry you can only find poorly run and poorly funded places to
work.....yep yep....So sorry for you
Why do you guys think I always called it ceramics heaven?....I see
stunning work come out of our kilns every day....There are likely more
continuing students there than there are beginners...Art is a lifetime
learning experience...We are a huge family, and we feed off each other's
energy....We help each other out....We have big pot luck dinners....Ever
have roast duck with your salt fire?...I have(thanks again Aki)...I make a
pot of Starbuckie French Roast every morning...In 12 years I don't remember
any harsh words ever being exchanged....We now have a staff that keeps two
steps ahead of all of us....They apologize if the glaze buckets aren't
full...We were already known throughout the area as THE place to do
ceramics..... With the revamped facilities the sky is the limit
This, kiddies, is how ceramics should be done....none of that angry,
lonely, uninspired life.....Open lab 7 days a week....Perhaps the rest of
you could have it all too......If there weren't so many who would like to
get a leg up on someone and something for nothing...I guess that is the
American way though....You should always take a little for your trouble from
everyone you meet, huh?....Attempt to screw each other at every
doorway....huh?....All that great art flying around our shop tends to
overpower all that crap.....Art is from the heart and we all love each
other....We leave all that jealousy and resentment to the rest of you...
Like I said, the staff gets all the credit; they are
wonderworkers.....good people....in the middle of hell city....a little bit
of ceramics heaven...
Bamboo Karen said I would be welcome in her classes.....You would all
be welcome in ours!....I pinch myself every time I walk in the gate and
never wake up from the dream....Isn't this why I pay all that income tax and
8 1/4% sales tax?...It sure as hell isn't to fund the police
departmentHEHEHE...
Ceramics Heaven is why I get upset with posts that advocate elitism,
snobbery and puffery....Yes it's all been done before, but with a little
help from your friends it can be taken to new heights...
PAX,
Rush
"I only indulge when I've seen a snake, so I keep a supply of indulgences
and snakes handy"
Jeff Tsai on sat 19 jan 02
Sounds like a world of gumdrops and lollipops. Don't get me wrong, I'm not
being mean, I think gumdrops and lillipops are wonderful and the fact that
you haven't exchanged a bad word in 12 years is great. But don't feel sorry
for me, I love where I work.
Aggravation and viewing the waste of those around me feeds me like the good
words and beautiful art you see daily, hey, we all are inspired by different
things. Even though I despise their waste, John, Ceci, Andy and I are
actually all good friends. John's teaching me jazz bass, Andy taught me to
throw, and we're all going to Nceca together.
Quite honestly, the worst place fore me, right now in my life, would be a
world where nothing went wrong, no waste occurred, no mistakes or arguments
rang out. My favorite glaze right now is the product of some idiot mixing the
wrong glaze and pouring it into another glaze, which then was to be thrown
out. What a waste...so I threw in a bunch of zircopax and rutile and I don't
know what else, and now I love it. My favorite pot came from the idiotic
underfiring and unreduced firing of a lower division ceramics student who
utterly "ruined" a kiln load of work through ineptness. I don't know, I like
the stress of fighting over kilns, watching Andy blow up. My favorite day was
when I was made to reorganize the carts because people had misused them and I
accidently broke several pieces. I had a mental breakdown in front of
everyone and no one would even come near me for a week, GOd that was a great
question free week!
So don't feel sorry for me, heaven has always sounded pretty dull to me.
-jeff
artimater on sun 20 jan 02
David wrote:
Sorry Arti, but as an old Clayart veteran, I have to remind you about
your ancient (in internet time) diatribes about how people at
"Ceramics Heaven" were set against you, stole your work before
it could be fired, and generally gave you a hard time.
In fact, that ranting is what got you kicked off of Clayart the
first time.
David,
I didn't say that lunatics do not exist....In the event you =
mention....Asshole(name withheld to protect the guilty) took 15 =
prototype design tumblers hot out of the bisque kiln and THREW THEM IN =
THE DUMPSTER....When his smiling face told me what his dumbass had done =
there were no harsh words exchanged....I looked him in the eye and told =
him that I wasn't going to say anything about it because god takes care =
of people like him....I am a big believer in karma.....yep that boy was =
a good example of what is wrong with academia...His lofty status as a =
lab assistant(paid student-minimum wage) had gone to his head....I was =
in dire straits that semester and only bought one bag of clay in the =
whole period....All the tumblers were designed using totally new =
designs...I took nothing from previous work...Fortunately the better of =
the designs are still in my head.....If the pots had been stolen I =
wouldn't have been so upset....That would be sort of a bassackwards =
compliment....Instead this was a jealous fit.....For almost two years =
after that I would enroll but not attend(How's that for stretching your =
taxes)....I just couldn't bring myself to use clay...I went back to =
painting and woodwork and participated in the internet =
bubbleHEHEHE....The claywork in my head got strong enough to make me =
work at it again in fall 2000....Asshole was long gone by then....He his =
now attempting to prove his manhood to himself in the Carolinas...When I =
am reminded of him, like you just did, I look down and spit on the =
ground....He was just another daddy's money loser....I don't even =
remember his last name..
There are plenty loonies in the world(you mentioned Dallas =
traffic)....Last semester there was a girl there at Ceramics Heaven that =
was telling me how a certain vase I made was going to be hers...She =
demanded a price and when I told her she said she would give me half =
thatHEHEHE...She also told me she had jumped out a 4th story window but =
was all better now because she had gotten in touch with the =
Lord..(!!!??!!!???)....I wanted to run and hide everytime I saw her, but =
she kept finding meARGHHHH.....Sure enough when I picked up that load of =
vases the one she had picked was missing....I didn't say anything to =
her...I don't count crazy people as drawbacks...You can as easily =
encounter them in the grocery store or anywhere(did I mention Dallas =
traffic?)
The lab staff has changed since then(the lab supervisor is a guy =
named Clark Kent-He seems familiar but I can't place him)...and the room =
has gotten bigger....More shelves...More elbow room....It was crowded =
when you were there because you were at a workshop...They used to be =
real crowded, but now it would be hard to fill the place up that much =
even for a good one....During my earlier time there I even tried my hand =
at production work in clay and I had no problems....People who work at =
fine art don't tend to make thousands of pieces per year....The only =
assholes we ever had around committed to production work were (you =
guessed it) staff
As for me being better off somewhere by myself, that is =
lunacy......I take care of my mother here in Dallas...We could not build =
8 kilns in my suburban backyard and Gloria is not going to quit her high =
power high paying job and I'm not giving up Gloria....It's as simple as =
that...Either I do ceramics at Ceramics Heaven or I don't do them at =
all....Someday when my mother is gone and Gloria has retired maybe we =
will want to wander....But I doubt it...Without the traffic I would have =
to take out my aggression some other wayHOHOHO
Now for you .......You like to call yourself a production =
potter....but I have been to the "Old Farmhouse Pottery" and saw mainly =
fine art....I know you country (Boonies) types wouldn't know art from =
fart but I think you are an artist....Try that on em at the local =
watering hole....They might take your boots and make you walk home =
barefoot with your butt painted pink...I am starting the rumor..."David =
Hendley is an artist, David Hendley is an artist, David Hendley is an =
artist"....It won't be long till they will be laughing behind your back =
down at the junkyard....Your wife looked like a healthy upstanding Texas =
girl....She will probably blow you off and find a real cowboyHEHEHE
PAX,
Rush
"I only indulge when I've seen a snake, so I keep a supply of =
indulgences and snakes handy"
http://artimator.com
rush@artimator.com
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/texasceramics
Artimator Galleries
2420 Briarwood Ln.
Carrollton, TX 75006
972-841-1857
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