Dale Cochoy on wed 23 jan 02
I've been recently using these items/ ideas in slab construction.
My chemical engineer brother asked me about the possibility of substituting
ethylene glycol ( antifreeze) instead of vinegar in the paper clay/slip mix
or assembly water. Anyone ut there given this a try to slow drying times .?
Seems do-able, but not sure if any high-firing problems? He couldn't see any
problems with it up front.
Regards,
Dale
John Weber on thu 24 jan 02
Dale, I don't have the answer to the question you posed but I use Magic
Water in stead of vinegar with Paper clay, it works like a charm. I have
never used the vinegar, is it just added to the paper clay to make the slip?
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> Subject: Paper Clay and vinegar query?
>
>
> I've been recently using these items/ ideas in slab construction.
> My chemical engineer brother asked me about the possibility of
> substituting
> ethylene glycol ( antifreeze) instead of vinegar in the paper
> clay/slip mix
> or assembly water. Anyone ut there given this a try to slow
> drying times .?
> Seems do-able, but not sure if any high-firing problems? He
> couldn't see any
> problems with it up front.
> Regards,
> Dale
>
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Craig Clark on thu 24 jan 02
Why would you want to substitute anti-freeze, for vinegar? Comparatively
speaking the vinegar is benign.
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 st
Houston, Texas 77008
(713)861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Cochoy"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:02 PM
Subject: Paper Clay and vinegar query?
> I've been recently using these items/ ideas in slab construction.
> My chemical engineer brother asked me about the possibility of
substituting
> ethylene glycol ( antifreeze) instead of vinegar in the paper clay/slip
mix
> or assembly water. Anyone ut there given this a try to slow drying times
.?
> Seems do-able, but not sure if any high-firing problems? He couldn't see
any
> problems with it up front.
> Regards,
> Dale
>
>
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Dale Cochoy on fri 25 jan 02
-Craig,
I didn't say I wanted to, just asked if anyone had thought of it. I guess
three reasons could be:
It costs less for a gallon.
It smells better
but, mostly, It may dry a little slower.
Just wondered if it had been tried?
Dale
---- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Clark"
Subject: Re: Paper Clay and vinegar query?
> Why would you want to substitute anti-freeze, for vinegar? Comparatively
> speaking the vinegar is benign.
> Craig Dunn Clark
> 619 East 11 1/2 st
> Houston, Texas 77008
> (713)861-2083
> mudman@hal-pc.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dale Cochoy"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:02 PM
> Subject: Paper Clay and vinegar query?
>
>
> > I've been recently using these items/ ideas in slab construction.
> > My chemical engineer brother asked me about the possibility of
> substituting
> > ethylene glycol ( antifreeze) instead of vinegar in the paper clay/slip
> mix
> > or assembly water. Anyone ut there given this a try to slow drying times
> .?
> > Seems do-able, but not sure if any high-firing problems? He couldn't see
> any
> > problems with it up front.
> > Regards,
> > Dale
Craig Clark on fri 25 jan 02
Dale, don't know if it's been tried or not, but I wouldn't recommend it. If
you have any questions about the potential hazards of useing antifreeze just
look at what is drained from your radiator the next time you decide to flush
the cooling system in your car.
While vinegar may smell bad it doesn't cost all that much, I believe I can
get a gallon for a coupla bucks, and besides that it's not toxic.
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 st
Houston, Texas 77008
(713)861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Cochoy"
To:
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Paper Clay and vinegar query?
> -Craig,
> I didn't say I wanted to, just asked if anyone had thought of it. I guess
> three reasons could be:
> It costs less for a gallon.
> It smells better
> but, mostly, It may dry a little slower.
> Just wondered if it had been tried?
> Dale
>
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: "Craig Clark"
> Subject: Re: Paper Clay and vinegar query?
>
>
> > Why would you want to substitute anti-freeze, for vinegar? Comparatively
> > speaking the vinegar is benign.
> > Craig Dunn Clark
> > 619 East 11 1/2 st
> > Houston, Texas 77008
> > (713)861-2083
> > mudman@hal-pc.org
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dale Cochoy"
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:02 PM
> > Subject: Paper Clay and vinegar query?
> >
> >
> > > I've been recently using these items/ ideas in slab construction.
> > > My chemical engineer brother asked me about the possibility of
> > substituting
> > > ethylene glycol ( antifreeze) instead of vinegar in the paper
clay/slip
> > mix
> > > or assembly water. Anyone ut there given this a try to slow drying
times
> > .?
> > > Seems do-able, but not sure if any high-firing problems? He couldn't
see
> > any
> > > problems with it up front.
> > > Regards,
> > > Dale
>
>
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