Brad S. Reitz on wed 30 jan 02
I've been following the posts about credit cards and the different
machines. I would like to point out that finding the swipe machines seems
to be one of the main problems for those who want to keep their costs
down. Several posts mentioned paymentec as a cheap option, however, I
checked with them and they require electronic processing. They said VISA
and MC don't want the knucklebuster machines out there and didn't even
know where one might find them. So, if anyone has ideas on a source of
manual swipers (knuckle busters) to aviod costly electronic machines and
printers, it seems many on the list might use it. Thanks in advance.
John Weber on thu 31 jan 02
Brad, the knuckle busters are alive and well. In our town, Richmond, VA, we
find them at a couple of large outlets that sell both new and used office
supplies. We have one store that had a huge pile of the old busters. I use
one myself. Of course it's all a fiction for me, because all I really need
is their credit card number and expiration date, so anyway I can record it
works fine. Technically it is a comfort to have their signature as well but
what I am doing is really taking orders the same as if it were on the phone.
I dial up after the show and submit the charges electronically. So, try you
local used office supply store for things. Good luck.
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> Subject: Knuckle Buster Machines(Was credit cards)
>
>
> I've been following the posts about credit cards and the different
> machines. I would like to point out that finding the swipe machines seems
> to be one of the main problems for those who want to keep their costs
> down. Several posts mentioned paymentec as a cheap option, however, I
> checked with them and they require electronic processing. They said VISA
> and MC don't want the knucklebuster machines out there and didn't even
> know where one might find them. So, if anyone has ideas on a source of
> manual swipers (knuckle busters) to aviod costly electronic machines and
> printers, it seems many on the list might use it. Thanks in advance.
>
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Timothy Sullivan on thu 31 jan 02
I haven't been following this entire thread, but I do processing with Nova,
which I set up through Costco. I use a Knuckle Buster (which I got through
Costco) at shows, and then enter them via my PC and a Web connection when I
get back home. I also like the idea of having a customer signature, and
after processing the transaction electronically, simply file the credit card
slips. For those of you looking for an affordable solution, I highly
recommend Costco. The KB was around 35$ and the software was 180$, monthly
minimums are 20$, and the rates seemed very competitive.
Tim in Atlanta
L. P. Skeen on thu 31 jan 02
In Greensboro and Raleigh, NC there is a new and used fixture place called
A&B. They are on Swing Ct. in Greensboro, just off I-40. Ask for Bill. He
carries knuckle busters and sometimes swipey things too.
I got my swipey thing from the discover man, who had a spare used one. It
was $300+ used, so I don't recommend you get a new one unless you're just
loaded with cash in the first place............;)
L
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From: "Brad S. Reitz"
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Subject: Knuckle Buster Machines(Was credit cards)
> I've been following the posts about credit cards and the different
> machines. I would like to point out that finding the swipe machines seems
> to be one of the main problems for those who want to keep their costs
> down. Several posts mentioned paymentec as a cheap option, however, I
> checked with them and they require electronic processing. They said VISA
> and MC don't want the knucklebuster machines out there and didn't even
> know where one might find them. So, if anyone has ideas on a source of
> manual swipers (knuckle busters) to aviod costly electronic machines and
> printers, it seems many on the list might use it. Thanks in advance.
>
>
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Tim Lynch on thu 31 jan 02
This is another post that mentions the cost effectiveness of Costco but
fails to mention the Costco membership fee. What might that be so I can put
that into the formula?
Tim in Wenatchee, WA USA
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On 1/31/02 4:40 AM, "Timothy Sullivan" wrote:
> I haven't been following this entire thread, but I do processing with Nova,
> which I set up through Costco. I use a Knuckle Buster (which I got through
> Costco) at shows, and then enter them via my PC and a Web connection when I
> get back home. I also like the idea of having a customer signature, and
> after processing the transaction electronically, simply file the credit card
> slips. For those of you looking for an affordable solution, I highly
> recommend Costco. The KB was around 35$ and the software was 180$, monthly
> minimums are 20$, and the rates seemed very competitive.
>
> Tim in Atlanta
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Jennifer F Boyer on thu 31 jan 02
The Knuckle Busters are needed by anyone who takes charge cards,
whether they have an electronic swiper or not. There are always
times when you might not be able to use your electronic machine:
power outage, lines are down. So any charge card company will
want you to be prepared to use a paper receipt with a manual
swiper(KB). Those transactions will be more expensive, but they
are inevitable...You can get one from whoever you sign up with
to take credit cards. Used will just be be cheaper
Jennifer
"Brad S. Reitz" wrote:
>
> I've been following the posts about credit cards and the different
> machines. I would like to point out that finding the swipe machines seems
> to be one of the main problems for those who want to keep their costs
> down. Several posts mentioned paymentec as a cheap option, however, I
> checked with them and they require electronic processing. They said VISA
> and MC don't want the knucklebuster machines out there and didn't even
> know where one might find them. So, if anyone has ideas on a source of
> manual swipers (knuckle busters) to aviod costly electronic machines and
> printers, it seems many on the list might use it. Thanks in advance.
>
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m markey on thu 31 jan 02
Hi Everybody!
Do they still have these behemouths? I recall working at a variety store,
when I was in high school (early '70's). We used these machines from time to
time, but the most difficult part was looking for "bad" credit cards! Vias
and MC provided retailers with lists of dubious credit card numbers, updated
weekly. It was not thrilling to hold up a line of customers, as I, the
cashier, carefully scanned the fine-type list for delinquent numbers!
The electronic age is marvelous--no printed lists! Today, I, as a customer,
wait, sometimes nervously, for the word "approved!" to be seen on the
cashier's screen!
So that's why Visa and MC don't like the old-fashioned knuckle machines--and
why the big retailers shun them--so the culprits with bad credit can be
discovered with great ease!
Humbly submitted,
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Timothy Sullivan on thu 31 jan 02
Costco requires that you be an Executive member which is $100 per year. With
this you can access their various business services, including processing.
You also get up to 500$ back as a 2% rebate back on your annual purchases. I
buy groceries there so the 2% comes close to offsetting the annual membership
fee.
Tim in Atlanta
Wilson on thu 31 jan 02
Here in Canada, the Costco membership is about $50. (mine will be up for renewal
soon, so it may have increased a bit).
Kate
Tim Lynch wrote:
> This is another post that mentions the cost effectiveness of Costco but
> fails to mention the Costco membership fee. What might that be so I can put
> that into the formula?
>
> Tim in Wenatchee, WA USA
>
> --
> Tim Lynch
> The Clay Man
> 1117 Tedford St SE
> East Wenatchee, WA 98802
> hifired@earthlink.net
>
> On 1/31/02 4:40 AM, "Timothy Sullivan" wrote:
>
> > I haven't been following this entire thread, but I do processing with Nova,
> > which I set up through Costco. I use a Knuckle Buster (which I got through
> > Costco) at shows, and then enter them via my PC and a Web connection when I
> > get back home. I also like the idea of having a customer signature, and
> > after processing the transaction electronically, simply file the credit card
> > slips. For those of you looking for an affordable solution, I highly
> > recommend Costco. The KB was around 35$ and the software was 180$, monthly
> > minimums are 20$, and the rates seemed very competitive.
> >
> > Tim in Atlanta
> >
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Lois Ruben Aronow on thu 31 jan 02
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:27:06 -0800, you wrote:
>This is another post that mentions the cost effectiveness of Costco but
>fails to mention the Costco membership fee. What might that be so I can=
put
>that into the formula?
You need to have the Executive membership fee, which is about $90 a
year. Since my family already has a Costco membership (we LOVE
Costco....) it's not that big a stretch. They also charge a one-time
$25 setup charge.
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