Judith I. Marvin on tue 5 feb 02
For those claybuds tackling prostate cancer I send a big, warm hug. We
encountered prostate cancer this past summer. I say we because I believe it
is very much a team effort. Went the surgery route and for us that was the
right decision. Happily Gary's psa has been zero since. Would recommend an
excellent book "Prostate & Cancer - A Family Guide....." by Sheldon Marks.
Information is power. Living in the boonies no such thing as a support
group which I really craved. If anyone would like to chat, I'm here. Gary,
with his urologists blessing, is off to the Middle East for six weeks work
but that's another story. God Bless. Judith
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Dwiggins, Sandra (NCI) on tue 5 feb 02
Dear list...
I work for the National Cancer Institue at the National Institutes of Health
in Bethesda. My job is helping to provide information on cancer to the
public and the medical community via the web. We have a great website that
I hope you all will use to collect information on treatment options, etc.
for prostate, and over 80 other types of cancers. Here is the website...
http://www.cancer.gov
I'd be happy to help anybody get more information if they need it.
Sandy
Anita Rickenberg on tue 5 feb 02
Re: National Cancer Institute at the National Institutes of Health in =
Bethesda. http://www.cancer.gov/
I can highly recommend both the website and the staff that answers =
questions. When my father was diagnosed with esophageal cancer 7 yrs. =
ago, I was able to get excellent information. Not the sugar-coated =
"everything will be OK" we'd been hearing from the local doctors, just =
the hard facts I was looking for. If I remember correctly, they also =
have links to drug trials that are available and the prerequisites to =
qualify.
Anita
Tom's E-mail on sun 10 feb 02
ANY CLAYBUD whose loved ones or self develop cancer contact me offline. I
was a practicing oncologist for 25 years. If I don't have the answer, I'll
try to find it.
Tom Sawyer
Orlando, Fl
tsawyer@cfl.rr.com
407-876-6244
Bruce Girrell on mon 11 feb 02
> ANY CLAYBUD whose loved ones or self develop cancer contact me offline. I
> was a practicing oncologist for 25 years. If I don't have the answer, I'll
> try to find it.
Tom,
What struck me about this recent thread was the incidence of prostate cancer
among those on the list. I didn't make an accurate count, but is seemed to
me that at least five people reported having the problem. With a Clayart
base of about 3000, many of whom don't post, that seems like an unusually
high incidence rate. Information that I found indicates an incidence rate of
45/100,000 in the age group of 50-60 and 1,000/100,000 men in age group 65
and over.
Even with the 65+ age group, it seems that we, as a group, are above the
statistical norm. I realize that we're looking at a very small n, but it
still raises the question, do potters, as a group, have a higher incidence
of prostate cancer? Certainly it would seem that sitting at the wheel for
extended periods of time could apply pressures in that area that would not
be experienced by the general populace and, of course, pressure translates
into restricted blood flow and possible mechanical damage.
Any thoughts on this?
Bruce Girrell
Marianne Lombardo on mon 21 oct 02
Dear Martin;
I am so very, very sorry to learn you have prostate cancer. I do pray that
you will recover soon. Please keep in touch here in Clayart and let us know
how you are doing.
Martin, I think I can feel part of what you are going through. I am the
Claybud that has just been diagnosed with breast cancer.
Marianne Lombardo
Omemee, Ontario, Canada
email: mlombardo@nexicom.net
Tom's E-mail on mon 21 oct 02
Tony, Martin & Others
There is an old saying "if your boat springs a leak, its okay to pray to God
but keep rowing towards shore". Never saw alternate therapy work in 25 years
of practicing as an oncologist. My advice, if you must use alternate
therapies also receive conventional treatments.
Tom Sawyer
tsawyer@cfl.rr.com
Martin Howard on mon 21 oct 02
I have been diagnosed as having prostate cancer with some in surrounding
bones, so my postings will be rather less than usual. Did I hear some
cheers?
My PSA was 145 in May and has risen to 268 last month prior to diagnosis.
the normal for my age is about 5!!
So, my way of thinking that my vegetarian and organic lifestyle was
sufficient to save me from cancer has had to undergo some changes.
My elected treatment is by urine therapy involving fasting, drinking my own
urine and having an hours rub all over with urine twice a day.
My wife is doing the rubbing on the kitchen table.
There is a very qualified nature practitioner in the next town who can guide
me through all this.
So my time for other things, including throwing pots will be a little less
than before.
I am putting my progress or otherwise on the Newsgroup
alt.support.cancer.prostate for any who wish to follow this path.
The thread is titled Alternative Therapies.
Feeling great already, after only 5 days of the therapy, with my hearing
improving, pains in the groin have disappeared, a feeling of unease when
sitting down for long periods has gone. So I really expect to get rid of the
cancer in due time. The hospital is monitoring the situation and I am having
a PSA blood test on a monthly basis via my GP.
Looking forward to being back in full production next year.
Martin Howard
Webbs Cottage Pottery
Woolpits Road, Great Saling
BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
01371 850 423
martin@webbscottage.co.uk
http://www.webbscottage.co.uk
Updated 6th July 2002
Tony Ferguson on mon 21 oct 02
http://www.prostate90.com/
Martin,
You need to cut out any processed soy. Some would argue all soy. Processed
soy will raise your PSA. Check out the above website. A very good friend
of mine cured himself of prostate--he sticks to a organic vegetarian diet,
no alchohol, drugs, meat, fish, eggs, or poultry. He noticed that his PSA
went through the roof when he ate any soy products, especially processed.
Any dairy causes cancerous cells to grow via the growth hormone present in
all dairy products. He also does not eat any dairy because of the naturally
occurring HGH or in the case of cows, IBGH. He is a new man. I wishing you
the best in healing.
Tony
Thank you.
Tony Ferguson
On Lake Superior, where the sky meets the Lake
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Howard"
To:
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 1:15 PM
Subject: prostate cancer
> I have been diagnosed as having prostate cancer with some in surrounding
> bones, so my postings will be rather less than usual. Did I hear some
> cheers?
> My PSA was 145 in May and has risen to 268 last month prior to diagnosis.
> the normal for my age is about 5!!
> So, my way of thinking that my vegetarian and organic lifestyle was
> sufficient to save me from cancer has had to undergo some changes.
> My elected treatment is by urine therapy involving fasting, drinking my
own
> urine and having an hours rub all over with urine twice a day.
> My wife is doing the rubbing on the kitchen table.
> There is a very qualified nature practitioner in the next town who can
guide
> me through all this.
>
> So my time for other things, including throwing pots will be a little less
> than before.
> I am putting my progress or otherwise on the Newsgroup
> alt.support.cancer.prostate for any who wish to follow this path.
> The thread is titled Alternative Therapies.
>
> Feeling great already, after only 5 days of the therapy, with my hearing
> improving, pains in the groin have disappeared, a feeling of unease when
> sitting down for long periods has gone. So I really expect to get rid of
the
> cancer in due time. The hospital is monitoring the situation and I am
having
> a PSA blood test on a monthly basis via my GP.
>
> Looking forward to being back in full production next year.
>
> Martin Howard
> Webbs Cottage Pottery
> Woolpits Road, Great Saling
> BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
> 01371 850 423
> martin@webbscottage.co.uk
> http://www.webbscottage.co.uk
> Updated 6th July 2002
>
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Ann Brink on mon 21 oct 02
Dear Martin...of course no cheers! And of course we wish you the best with
your recovery process, so you can get back to normal activities, and CLAY
WORK. I do hope that if your PSA does not respond immediately you will
switch to one of the more usual healing methods. I always thought the skin
was a barrier to absorption. (and good thing, often)
Best wishes,
Ann Brink in CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Howard"
> I have been diagnosed as having prostate cancer with some in surrounding
> bones, so my postings will be rather less than usual. Did I hear some
> cheers?
Kathy on tue 22 oct 02
Martin,
Sorry to hear that you are sick. I, along with many
others, wish you a speedy and total recovery.
On the subject of all sorts of illness and nutritional
changes, when you make drastic across-the-board
changes in diet it is very difficult to pinpoint which
foods are helping and hurting you. Many foods, or
absence of foods, take a full three months to be felt
by the body. Gradual changes will leave the list of
"good foods" long enough for you to get all you need
from the earth.
Most serious illnesses fall into the "It's nobody's
fault" category.
Best of luck to you,
Kathy
Martin Howard on tue 22 oct 02
Thanks, Tom Sawyer, for posting
oncologist. >
But if your read Water of Life and many other books you will see a lot of
evidence that the urine therapy does work. I've proved it works for myself.
I will now prove it works for prostate cancer.
Time will tell, friend.
In pottery we have many rules. Almost all of them can be broken.
In our lives we break many rules of nature, and have to pay the price.
Reverse our procedures, eat properly, fast properly, and we can put things
right.
If you are interested to see evidence that some, or even just one,
alternative therapy works, then you follow my pathway by looking at the
Newsgroup alt.support.cancer.prostate on the thread Alternative Therapies.
I will of course be using the orthodox medics to monitor my progress.
Martin Howard
Webbs Cottage Pottery
Woolpits Road, Great Saling
BRAINTREE, Essex CM7 5DZ
01371 850 423
martin@webbscottage.co.uk
http://www.webbscottage.co.uk
Updated 6th July 2002
WHC228@AOL.COM on tue 22 oct 02
Tony Martin & others;
My pharmacist's comment about prostate cancer is "more people die with
prostate cancer than from it. Go for the cure.
Bill
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